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lonelyPotato
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia158 Posts
February 26 2013 08:29 GMT
#2441
I saw a chiropractor today since my sister suggested that I go see one since she said that they do wonders. It did work well for a couple of hours, but after a while I just stagnated back to my old self. The chiropractor recommends I keep seeing him.

However... I'm just not sure if chiropractors are just quacks? I've looked on the internet and have seen mixed opinions about it, but am not sure if I should waste my money.

Does anyone have any experience on chiropractors on whether or not they are legit?
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
February 26 2013 10:33 GMT
#2442
On February 26 2013 17:29 lonelyPotato wrote:
I saw a chiropractor today since my sister suggested that I go see one since she said that they do wonders. It did work well for a couple of hours, but after a while I just stagnated back to my old self. The chiropractor recommends I keep seeing him.

However... I'm just not sure if chiropractors are just quacks? I've looked on the internet and have seen mixed opinions about it, but am not sure if I should waste my money.

Does anyone have any experience on chiropractors on whether or not they are legit?


There isn't very much medical basis to what they do as far as I know, which is why some people call them quacks. However, I know a couple examples from my life where people close to me have gone to one, and their problems have been fixed.

For example, my dad had back problems. Doctors couldn't help him, but once he went to a chiropractor, his pains dissapeared instantly. A friend of mine had been sleeping on a poor bed for years, he had back problems, went to one, and got fixed right up.

There definately is something to it IMHO. Whether its ideal treatment for you, I don't know.
lonelyPotato
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia158 Posts
February 26 2013 10:38 GMT
#2443
On February 26 2013 19:33 Ahzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:29 lonelyPotato wrote:
I saw a chiropractor today since my sister suggested that I go see one since she said that they do wonders. It did work well for a couple of hours, but after a while I just stagnated back to my old self. The chiropractor recommends I keep seeing him.

However... I'm just not sure if chiropractors are just quacks? I've looked on the internet and have seen mixed opinions about it, but am not sure if I should waste my money.

Does anyone have any experience on chiropractors on whether or not they are legit?


There isn't very much medical basis to what they do as far as I know, which is why some people call them quacks. However, I know a couple examples from my life where people close to me have gone to one, and their problems have been fixed.

For example, my dad had back problems. Doctors couldn't help him, but once he went to a chiropractor, his pains dissapeared instantly. A friend of mine had been sleeping on a poor bed for years, he had back problems, went to one, and got fixed right up.

There definately is something to it IMHO. Whether its ideal treatment for you, I don't know.


I think it does defiantly make you feel better for a duration, whether or not it gives you lasting affects. All my friends who do it say it works, but it makes me wonder if it's a placebo thing =S
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
February 26 2013 10:49 GMT
#2444
Depends on if they identify the correct problem. If you see a chiropractor to get rid of neck pain and your neck actually is the cause, it will probably work. But if the cause actually is that for example your hip is out of alignment, which causes you legs to have different length, the problem will return again because you won't walk straight. Because your head wants to be straight it will tilt slightly and give you neck pain again.

At least that's my understanding of it.
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Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 12:06:20
February 26 2013 12:05 GMT
#2445
On February 26 2013 08:02 Zenbrez wrote:
I remember the 3rd rep in the first vid I completely botched it and almost fell back, I put all the weight on my heels. Mark Rippetoe writes (with lots of emphasis) that you're not supposed to push upwards using your chest, and pay particular attention to your butt, push up with your butt. When I was looking at videos last night, I found this
(snip)
Starting at 0:55, Mark basically explains what I poorly described above. The book also says to not keep a verticle body, because that's a different kind of squat, one that doesn't work all the muscles we want to work.

So, having that said, I'm not here asking for help just to say you guys are wrong, I can openly everything I know it from what I've read the past 2 days. Just bringing this up to clear any confusing I may be having from my readings.

Thanks for the responses so far, I appreciate it. I do have access to a free barbell - will start using it

Yeah, you are correct, but keep in mind that this advice is for a low bar squat, and you are performing a high bar squat. For a high bar squat you need to keep your back more straight up or you will collapse/your neck will suffer under heavier weights. If you want to low bar squat, you have to place your bar much lower in your back than what you are currently doing. Here is a Ripp video that explains where and how should the bar be placed in a low bar squat:
http://vimeo.com/30763907

Note that I am completely unable to put my arms in this sort of position due to inflexibility of my shoulders/elbows (in fact I do have some problems to place my arms in place in the high bar position even), so I am currently performing high bar squats.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15329 Posts
February 28 2013 09:50 GMT
#2446
How am I supposed to do lat pulldowns (considerably) heavier than 1xBW? I am not tall enough to really reach the bar when I have my legs locked into the seat, so anything 80kg and more I just can't get into position (71kg BW atm), even though I could do the lift. Annoying.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 11:41:37
February 28 2013 11:35 GMT
#2447
I start the set standing, yank the bar down and slide myself in. I don't find it too difficult because the machine i use has the roller pad thingy as opposed to a regular rectangular pad.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
February 28 2013 13:53 GMT
#2448
You can get someone to help you pull it down
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 28 2013 14:04 GMT
#2449
Switch to weighted pull-ups?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15329 Posts
February 28 2013 14:24 GMT
#2450
On February 28 2013 23:04 mordek wrote:
Switch to weighted pull-ups?

You know just thinking about it for 5 minutes and here I am wondering why I even considered doing pulldowns in the first place ...

Pullups it is!
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 28 2013 14:39 GMT
#2451
:D It's so awesome. You get a lot of looks when you're pulling up 20kg+
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15329 Posts
February 28 2013 14:45 GMT
#2452
Well I can barely do 3x5 chin ups with +6kg and my pullups are waaaaaaay worse so that'll take a long while
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 28 2013 15:00 GMT
#2453
It's only a matter of time I started at +2.5kg and added 1.25 every time I made 3x5.
So far I've gotten pull-ups to 52.5lb and chin-ups to 62.5 (sorry it's easier than converting XD)
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15329 Posts
February 28 2013 15:08 GMT
#2454
Well I have been doing weighted chins for 6 months and +6kg is where I am .... It's just my zero progress exercise. I think most people have one where they just can't get anywhere.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 28 2013 15:32 GMT
#2455
Just make it a priority. I think you'll see progress. I started for kicks to work towards OAC and I really liked it so it's usually my first or second exercise. I think if you're doing them disciplined 3x every two weeks you'll start seeing more progress. It may be one of those lifts for you but scanning through your workouts I don't know if you've given weighted pull-ups/chin-ups your full devotion Just think of it as an opportunity while your knee heals. Plus OAC is BA
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15329 Posts
February 28 2013 15:41 GMT
#2456
Nah never has been a priority. And I won't make them, press / bench is far more important to me. But for example dips haven't been either and I am up to +36kg on dips and have done them about as much.

Anyway important point is that I'll do more of them and drop the pull downs.
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Pecul
Profile Joined September 2008
Sweden116 Posts
March 02 2013 12:28 GMT
#2457
Can you gain muscle mass while reducing your body fat percentage when you already are quite fit?

I have around 16-17% body fat percentage and I want to reduce it. But at the same time I want to gain some muscle mass. In order to gain muscles you need a calorie surplus, while reducing body fat % requires a calorie deficit (?)

Is there a way to achieve both at the same time?
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 13:59:28
March 02 2013 13:59 GMT
#2458
This is only possible if you haven't followed a real powertraining schedule before. After those first months it is impossible to make muscle gains without a caloric surplus, and thus an increase in fat.
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
March 02 2013 14:21 GMT
#2459
Mass maybe, but strength very possible. I went from 220 squat 400 deadlift 425 to weighing 195 squat 445 deadlift 485.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
March 02 2013 16:14 GMT
#2460
nobody was talking about strength :p
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
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