EPTI have been doing SS for almost 2 months now, and I really enjoy it, except for one thing; overhead press. All my other lifts are still progressing linearly (115kg squat today, yay) but my overhead press is stuck on 50kg, having reset it 3 times. So my question is really, is there some alternative to overhead press, because I find that exercise to be really demoralizing, and it is starting to ruining the workouts for me.
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Fwmeh
1286 Posts
I have been doing SS for almost 2 months now, and I really enjoy it, except for one thing; overhead press. All my other lifts are still progressing linearly (115kg squat today, yay) but my overhead press is stuck on 50kg, having reset it 3 times. So my question is really, is there some alternative to overhead press, because I find that exercise to be really demoralizing, and it is starting to ruining the workouts for me. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On November 27 2012 03:03 Fwmeh wrote: Hi, I have been doing SS for almost 2 months now, and I really enjoy it, except for one thing; overhead press. All my other lifts are still progressing linearly (115kg squat today, yay) but my overhead press is stuck on 50kg, having reset it 3 times. So my question is really, is there some alternative to overhead press, because I find that exercise to be really demoralizing, and it is starting to ruining the workouts for me. OHP will stall much more quickly than other lifts. It did for me and for a lot of people I know. You may want to consider looking at your form/technique if you've reset it 3 times and are still hitting the same max. It can take a really long time though, I recently broke 52kg 3x5. Cues like spreading the bar apart and making sure your glutes/abs are tight to give you a base to push off of all helped. | ||
Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On November 27 2012 03:03 Fwmeh wrote: Hi, I have been doing SS for almost 2 months now, and I really enjoy it, except for one thing; overhead press. All my other lifts are still progressing linearly (115kg squat today, yay) but my overhead press is stuck on 50kg, having reset it 3 times. So my question is really, is there some alternative to overhead press, because I find that exercise to be really demoralizing, and it is starting to ruining the workouts for me. Honestly, just get used to the idea of OHP stalling. Having a 50kg OHP after 2 months is pretty impressive already. To put it into perspective, my current OHP is 62.5kg after 14 months. Infinity21's OHP is 60kg after the same time. Just keep at it :p | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
Best I can find on google is "BP units is millimeters of mercury, mm Hg." And I know so little about blood pressure I'm not sure if this is relevent | ||
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
Just for reference 1 mmHg = 133.3 Pa = 0.01934 psi (don't really know if psi is a common unit though) | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
There's a few med/physiology people here who should be able to give you a better answer. | ||
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GuiltyJerk
United States584 Posts
On November 27 2012 08:25 Zenbrez wrote: In context, if I wanted to say "For every additional (blood pressure point?) a person gains, their cholesterol level should increase on average by 0.2439", what would you think makes sense - for every additional millimeter of mercury? You could call it a torr instead (1 torr = 1 mm Hg) but that might just confuse people, there are a TON of units for pressure (doing gas laws in my gen chem class now actually :D) | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Blood pressure increases because of obesity (increase in the amount of blood vessels = increase in resistance), renal dysfunction (improper retention of fluids, electrolytes), cardiomyopathy, atherosclerosis, and some other factors. Cholesterol increases due to a lot of various factors because it's involved with the production of steroid hormones, vitamin D, and repair of almost all cells in the body. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
I told here there are two different kinds of proteins LDL and HDL, and that one of them is good for your bodies natural functions and the other is bad, and participates in clogging arteries and such. Eggs would be the good kind. Am I correct in saying this? Also, I seen an Austrailian study where some guy tested eating eggs every day and his cholesteral went down, and a body builder who ate over a dozen eggs a day still had low cholesteral. | ||
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Ahzz
Finland780 Posts
On November 28 2012 00:51 Mementoss wrote: My girlfriend was worried about cholesteral because she has started eating eggs every morning to get protein source. I told here there are two different kinds of proteins LDL and HDL, and that one of them is good for your bodies natural functions and the other is bad, and participates in clogging arteries and such. Eggs would be the good kind. Am I correct in saying this? Also, I seen an Austrailian study where some guy tested eating eggs every day and his cholesteral went down, and a body builder who ate over a dozen eggs a day still had low cholesteral. I am not a doctor, nor have I done extensive studies on this. But it is something that I wish will get clarified over here as well. In any case, my sister is going to graduate from medical school soon, so I assume that she has relatively recent knowledge on the matter. I asked her if eggs affect our cholesterol in a negative fashion. She basically answered, that for some people it does, and for others it doesn't. She gave an estimate of about 20-30% who are affected NEGATIVELY from eating tons of eggs. Same goes for salt and fat, for some it's bad, and others don't notice any difference AS LONG AS they stay in shape. The thing is though, you don't know which side you belong to unless you use a specific diet for a while and get tested. people always assume they are on the better side, and therefore don't care. Also, eating in a 'fat-free, salt-less, cholesterol-free' diet has no negative side effects for anyone, which is why it's so heavily promoted. This is essentially what I got out of her. The school system (and university) in Finland should be quite up to date. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20166 Posts
If you're getting free range eggs then you can eat them all day and it will probably lower your cholesterol | ||
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Ahzz
Finland780 Posts
As far as free-range eggs being so much better than your average eggs, thats something that I'd like to hear more about. And this is overall a topic that I want to know much more about, because there are many bits of information floating in this forum that multiple doctors that I know will not sign, some of which I mentioned in my post before. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On November 27 2012 22:52 eshlow wrote: lol, what does blood pressure have to do with cholesterol level?..... Blood pressure increases because of obesity (increase in the amount of blood vessels = increase in resistance), renal dysfunction (improper retention of fluids, electrolytes), cardiomyopathy, atherosclerosis, and some other factors. Cholesterol increases due to a lot of various factors because it's involved with the production of steroid hormones, vitamin D, and repair of almost all cells in the body. I'm doing multiple linear regression in one of my classes, as part of an assignment, we do hypothesis testing, and blood pressure does end up not having enough correlation for determining the cholesterol level. So you're right. But I need to some interpreting before I kick it out of the model. I felt a bit weird asking this subforum since it's for school, but I assumed somebody could answer a question relating to a blood pressure unit of measure | ||
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decafchicken
United States20166 Posts
On November 28 2012 01:51 Ahzz wrote: I'm sorry, I was perhaps a little bit unclear on what I meant. I meant that eating LOW fat, cholesterol and salt supposedly has no negative side effects. Of course our bodies need some... about 3.5g-5g of salt per day or so, and some numbers for fat that I don't remember. However, eating high-fat foods can be bad for SOME even if they stay in amazing shape, but not immediately perhaps. The negative effects may show up 10-30 years following such a diet. As far as free-range eggs being so much better than your average eggs, thats something that I'd like to hear more about. And this is overall a topic that I want to know much more about, because there are many bits of information floating in this forum that multiple doctors that I know will not sign, some of which I mentioned in my post before. Free range (specifically pasture) hens have a diet that includes grass and insects instead of just grain. I'm sure being able to move around helps too. They produce eggs with higher levels of omega 3 fats and vitamins | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Certain classes of fats are healthy and some are not. Same with carbohydrates. Refined carbohydrates, for example, represent almost ALL of the extra energy intake over the past 40 years which is the energy in > energy out portion of obesity. It's not because people are eating more fat. They are eating more refined carbohydrates which is why they become obese. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://blog.photocalorie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Macronutrient-consumption-1970-today.png) Anyone who says saturated fats are bad for you doesn't know what they're talking about unless they can differentiate which particular short, medium and long chain tricglycerides (and specifically what carbon numbers) affect which biological parameters in the body. Salt is not inherently bad for you. Salt is fine to take in, even in huge quantities, because the body can naturally deal with it via the renin-angiotensin system. The two major problem when salt intake occurs is DIABETES in what I said before: Blood pressure increases because of obesity (increase in the amount of blood vessels = increase in resistance), renal dysfunction (improper retention of fluids, electrolytes), cardiomyopathy, atherosclerosis, and some other factors. Blood pressure into the kidneys is highly regulated. When someone starts to get hypertensive, the kidneys bear the burden. When the blood pressure becomes too high glomerulus (which is the filtration portion of the nephron) gets injured and die. This is one of the reasons of chronic renal disease. The other is diabetes as unregulated sugar levels do large amounts of damage within the body. Diabetic neuropathy occurs when sugar bonds with certain compounds in the nerves and destroys the nerves ability to work properly, same with kidneys, blood vessels (atheroscerolsis,) etc as unregulated sugar is highly inflammatory. Also, dietary cholesterol is not correlated with blood cholesterol... so I don't know why people still believe this junk. But again I'm tired of harping on these retarded points. It's clear by the dietary standards within the US that everything is running on "medicine" that is not preventative but just reacts to what is happened. Reducing cholesterol, salt, fat, etc has very little effect on reducing the amount of disease in the US because it doesn't affect the actual problems. | ||
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Ahzz
Finland780 Posts
Should I be concerned? | ||
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decafchicken
United States20166 Posts
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On November 30 2012 12:50 Snuggles wrote: I was doing my 1x5 deadlift today and finished it nice and easy for the usual muscles, so naturally I can move up another 10 lbs on the next workout. BUT there is a problem, I had a horrible time trying to keep my grip on the bar. By the time I was on the fifth rep I felt like I was about to drop the bar. Any advice or experience on this? Switch to hookgrip or mixed grip. Continue doing all your warm up sets double overhand as a means of training your grip. In addition to that, do more exercises that will help your grip - plate pinches, farmers walks, hang from a pullup bar, high rep DB rows, use fatbar grips, etc. | ||
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