I was lifting for 3 months with no access to kitchen or fridge, so quite similar situation to Idra's. Snack on nuts (especially almonds) all day. Eat a tub of cottage cheese in the evening, for dat dere slow digesting casein. Ofc things like peanut butter, tuna, canned beans are good easy sources of protein as well. I also dipped everything in olive oil for healthy fats. Drink milk and whey if you don't meet your daily protein goals that way alone.
Anyway, I'm looking for some advice myself. Been lifting for just over 3 months, started at skinnyfat with no muscle.
I'm doing SS with added chin-ups. Started with bar only on all, atm my 3x5 are: squat 90kg, dl 110kg, bench 60kg, ohp 40kg.
As you can probably see in pic and from stats, my upper-body is lacking. I still wanna do something like SS, cause I wanna maximize the easiest gains I'll ever have. Should I start squatting less? Add some arm assistance? I haven't seriously stalled on anything yet, so in theory I shouldn't be switching routines, but those legs are becoming huge
Looks like a normal SS progression to me. What is your weight starting and now? You look like you need to eat more. Your best bet is to stay on it for a while longer, it's normal that your upper body is lagging behind the lower body on SS.
So i'm spending christmas at my parents house. This is my makeshift gym for the next few days: + Show Spoiler +
I was lifting for 3 months with no access to kitchen or fridge, so quite similar situation to Idra's. Snack on nuts (especially almonds) all day. Eat a tub of cottage cheese in the evening, for dat dere slow digesting casein. Ofc things like peanut butter, tuna, canned beans are good easy sources of protein as well. I also dipped everything in olive oil for healthy fats. Drink milk and whey if you don't meet your daily protein goals that way alone.
Anyway, I'm looking for some advice myself. Been lifting for just over 3 months, started at skinnyfat with no muscle.
I'm doing SS with added chin-ups. Started with bar only on all, atm my 3x5 are: squat 90kg, dl 110kg, bench 60kg, ohp 40kg.
As you can probably see in pic and from stats, my upper-body is lacking. I still wanna do something like SS, cause I wanna maximize the easiest gains I'll ever have. Should I start squatting less? Add some arm assistance? I haven't seriously stalled on anything yet, so in theory I shouldn't be switching routines, but those legs are becoming huge
Looks like a normal SS progression to me. What is your weight starting and now? You look like you need to eat more. Your best bet is to stay on it for a while longer, it's normal that your upper body is lagging behind the lower body on SS.
So i'm spending christmas at my parents house. This is my makeshift gym for the next few days: + Show Spoiler +
On December 21 2011 01:21 Gomas wrote: I just like almonds, and they don't have any overwhelming taste like other nuts, so I can eat them in large quantities. I always seen them recommended as good bodybuilding snacks thou.
"Almonds provide a good source of protein and fat, but it’s their vitamin E that is most beneficial to your muscles. The powerful antioxidant fights free radicals and helps you recover quicker from your workouts."
Don't believe "sales" talk like this.
Anti-oxidants actually impair adaptations to recovery in the literature BECAUSE they soak up damage.
When the body is stressed, there's damage. Damage makes the body adapt. If something is soaking up the damage, the body won't adapt. Thus, decreased performance.
This doesn't occur with whole foods though (almonds and whatnot) so it's a moot point. But people megadosing vitamins it does happen and it has been shown in the studies that the body doesn't adapt as well when throwing antioxidants at it (vit A, C and E)
I had one of those existentialist conversations with myself after squats. 'Wehh, this can't be healthy wehhh, maybe I should switch programs wehhh, I didn't sleep enough so it's okay if I fail WEHHHHHH, IS THIS REALLY MAKING ME HAPPY?! WEHHH', but then I realised that the goal in life is to be awesome so I just smashed bench.
Dammit, I have to get eating if I'm going to stay ahead of you =(.
I've got 5kg on you in squat, even in bench (but for 5x5), and even in deadlift last time I pulled heavy - but that was before rugby, I've taken months off from heavy deads. Probably couldn't pull more than 120kg if I went in to deadlift tomorrow. You're right around my height/weight, correct? (193 cm/84kg)
Race to 1.5x BW squat (125kg) 1.75x BW dead (150kgish) and, because BW is so close for both of us, 100kg bench?
Make it three separate races, or have to accomplish all three? 1rm, set of 5, or 3x5?
I'm 1.96. Will get an accurate measurement on friday (if the french gym is open). I think I'll keep eating and sleeping like a boss and try to squeeze out a few weeks more progress on Starting Strength, then switch to BillStarr's 5x5. But yeah on July 1st I was squatting 30kg and on the 11th that was 50kg. I think you do indeed gotta change something or I'll overtake you >:D
I'll race you to squats and deads, but my bench is pretty weak so meh :D
My bench is bad too, but I'm working on it. It's always a work in progress.
My stats honestly are so low for a couple reasons:
1) Excuses 2) Excuses 3) Excuses 4) Excuses
Fixed. You gotta man up for e-sports. I made five months of progress on you, basically. That's rediculous and you should do something about it.
There's a difference between a reason and an excuse. With an excuse, I'm trying to say "I can't do this because _____."
With a reason, I'm trying to say "I am not what I could be, because I choose to do _______." It's subtle, but in the second one, I take full responsibility. Anyway, I think I'm going grocery shopping tonight, and I should be heading to the gym tomorrow to be signing up for a month at the gym. Gotta love coming home for winter break. Time to gain a few pounds =p.
On the subject of Protein:
- I'm pretty sure the only thing you get a return for when you pay more for protein powder is taste. Just find something you can choke down and stand paying for at the same time. - My favorite thing to eat for protein is hard boiled eggs. Couple (4) of them in addition to your normal meals. - Nuts are good for pure calories, but you need to get your protein sorted out first.
hrm, i kinda struggle to eat 6 hard boil eggs but if you fry/scramble them instead then i can eat 5-6 np with a big helping of bacon/wtvr too
feel like COMPLETE SHIT and its 100% due to under-eating!! im like paralysed in my chair right now unable to move to the kitchen!!! gonna fry some cabbage and mix it with baked beans and microwave an old steak and then got 4 chocolate bars and SLEEEEEEEEEP *dies*
god its so weird to be able to walk up stairs without feeling like im gonna collapse (yay squats)
nuts here are insanely expensive i wouldnt recommend them except the honey-roasted cashews oh god ahahahaha
Gomas how did you make your penis look like a sock ball in that photo rather than a shrimp? i have these baggy tracksuit trousers, light-grey in color, and my penis flops around in them and stands out so badly (wearing boxers or tight boxers) its like there is a shrimp trying to escape my trousers. i felt really bad for everyone at the gym the other day
I had one of those existentialist conversations with myself after squats. 'Wehh, this can't be healthy wehhh, maybe I should switch programs wehhh, I didn't sleep enough so it's okay if I fail WEHHHHHH, IS THIS REALLY MAKING ME HAPPY?! WEHHH', but then I realised that the goal in life is to be awesome so I just smashed bench.
Dammit, I have to get eating if I'm going to stay ahead of you =(.
I've got 5kg on you in squat, even in bench (but for 5x5), and even in deadlift last time I pulled heavy - but that was before rugby, I've taken months off from heavy deads. Probably couldn't pull more than 120kg if I went in to deadlift tomorrow. You're right around my height/weight, correct? (193 cm/84kg)
Race to 1.5x BW squat (125kg) 1.75x BW dead (150kgish) and, because BW is so close for both of us, 100kg bench?
Make it three separate races, or have to accomplish all three? 1rm, set of 5, or 3x5?
I'm 1.96. Will get an accurate measurement on friday (if the french gym is open). I think I'll keep eating and sleeping like a boss and try to squeeze out a few weeks more progress on Starting Strength, then switch to BillStarr's 5x5. But yeah on July 1st I was squatting 30kg and on the 11th that was 50kg. I think you do indeed gotta change something or I'll overtake you >:D
I'll race you to squats and deads, but my bench is pretty weak so meh :D
My bench is bad too, but I'm working on it. It's always a work in progress.
My stats honestly are so low for a couple reasons:
1) Excuses 2) Excuses 3) Excuses 4) Excuses
Fixed. You gotta man up for e-sports. I made five months of progress on you, basically. That's rediculous and you should do something about it.
I had one of those existentialist conversations with myself after squats. 'Wehh, this can't be healthy wehhh, maybe I should switch programs wehhh, I didn't sleep enough so it's okay if I fail WEHHHHHH, IS THIS REALLY MAKING ME HAPPY?! WEHHH', but then I realised that the goal in life is to be awesome so I just smashed bench.
Dammit, I have to get eating if I'm going to stay ahead of you =(.
I've got 5kg on you in squat, even in bench (but for 5x5), and even in deadlift last time I pulled heavy - but that was before rugby, I've taken months off from heavy deads. Probably couldn't pull more than 120kg if I went in to deadlift tomorrow. You're right around my height/weight, correct? (193 cm/84kg)
Race to 1.5x BW squat (125kg) 1.75x BW dead (150kgish) and, because BW is so close for both of us, 100kg bench?
Make it three separate races, or have to accomplish all three? 1rm, set of 5, or 3x5?
I'm 1.96. Will get an accurate measurement on friday (if the french gym is open). I think I'll keep eating and sleeping like a boss and try to squeeze out a few weeks more progress on Starting Strength, then switch to BillStarr's 5x5. But yeah on July 1st I was squatting 30kg and on the 11th that was 50kg. I think you do indeed gotta change something or I'll overtake you >:D
I'll race you to squats and deads, but my bench is pretty weak so meh :D
My bench is bad too, but I'm working on it. It's always a work in progress.
My stats honestly are so low for a couple reasons:
1) Excuses 2) Excuses 3) Excuses 4) Excuses
Fixed. You gotta man up for e-sports. I made five months of progress on you, basically. That's rediculous and you should do something about it.
There's a difference between a reason and an excuse. With an excuse, I'm trying to say "I can't do this because _____."
With a reason, I'm trying to say "I am not what I could be, because I choose to do _______." It's subtle, but in the second one, I take full responsibility.
On December 21 2011 01:21 Gomas wrote: I just like almonds, and they don't have any overwhelming taste like other nuts, so I can eat them in large quantities. I always seen them recommended as good bodybuilding snacks thou.
"Almonds provide a good source of protein and fat, but it’s their vitamin E that is most beneficial to your muscles. The powerful antioxidant fights free radicals and helps you recover quicker from your workouts."
Don't believe "sales" talk like this.
Anti-oxidants actually impair adaptations to recovery in the literature BECAUSE they soak up damage.
When the body is stressed, there's damage. Damage makes the body adapt. If something is soaking up the damage, the body won't adapt. Thus, decreased performance.
This doesn't occur with whole foods though (almonds and whatnot) so it's a moot point. But people megadosing vitamins it does happen and it has been shown in the studies that the body doesn't adapt as well when throwing antioxidants at it (vit A, C and E)
Would green tea be included in this antioxidant picture? I drink two liters a day and I'm worried about it messing with my progress...
On December 21 2011 01:32 KT s0ng wrote: Little diary/update, spoilered because there's not much health info: + Show Spoiler +
Down to 85/86kg now. My last post was 93kg about a month ago (original original weight was 120kg in May). This month I've just been running in the real world down by a river, around 6/7km a night. Actually the last week I've been pretty sick so I didn't run I just kept to my diet of kimchi jiggae (soup) and veggie rice and I'm still losing weight. My body is so fucking weird right now, haha. Like I have some manboobs and a little gut but the area in between is pretty thin, and my lower back is looking good, but I still have some fat on my upper back. From the front I look pretty good (I buy clothes now in Korea, like a US medium/95 woot woot), but from the side it's just damn strange.
I've been losing a little willpower because I'm pretty happy with how I am and I've been enjoying playing SC this week and just keeping my diet and losing weight a little slower. I used to really want a girlfriend but now I'm actually in the position to get one, it seems like a lot of hassle kekeke
But still after Christmas I want to go mental again for a few months I think, especially with beach time coming up in the summer.
That's some amazing progress so far, KT s0ng. What's your goal weight and how tall are you?
On December 21 2011 01:21 Gomas wrote: I just like almonds, and they don't have any overwhelming taste like other nuts, so I can eat them in large quantities. I always seen them recommended as good bodybuilding snacks thou.
"Almonds provide a good source of protein and fat, but it’s their vitamin E that is most beneficial to your muscles. The powerful antioxidant fights free radicals and helps you recover quicker from your workouts."
Don't believe "sales" talk like this.
Anti-oxidants actually impair adaptations to recovery in the literature BECAUSE they soak up damage.
When the body is stressed, there's damage. Damage makes the body adapt. If something is soaking up the damage, the body won't adapt. Thus, decreased performance.
This doesn't occur with whole foods though (almonds and whatnot) so it's a moot point. But people megadosing vitamins it does happen and it has been shown in the studies that the body doesn't adapt as well when throwing antioxidants at it (vit A, C and E)
Would green tea be included in this antioxidant picture? I drink two liters a day and I'm worried about it messing with my progress...
Uh, I mean, I would say some tea is fine.
But 2 liters is a lot..... drink more water instead?
iherb? dunno, i'm looking for a good german online shop that sells protein powder/fish oil etc as well. I only know andro-shop.com, while they do have ON whey/casein I cant find my BCAA (purple wraath by controlled labs) where do you buy your whey/casein?
On December 21 2011 01:32 KT s0ng wrote: Little diary/update, spoilered because there's not much health info: + Show Spoiler +
Down to 85/86kg now. My last post was 93kg about a month ago (original original weight was 120kg in May). This month I've just been running in the real world down by a river, around 6/7km a night. Actually the last week I've been pretty sick so I didn't run I just kept to my diet of kimchi jiggae (soup) and veggie rice and I'm still losing weight. My body is so fucking weird right now, haha. Like I have some manboobs and a little gut but the area in between is pretty thin, and my lower back is looking good, but I still have some fat on my upper back. From the front I look pretty good (I buy clothes now in Korea, like a US medium/95 woot woot), but from the side it's just damn strange.
I've been losing a little willpower because I'm pretty happy with how I am and I've been enjoying playing SC this week and just keeping my diet and losing weight a little slower. I used to really want a girlfriend but now I'm actually in the position to get one, it seems like a lot of hassle kekeke
But still after Christmas I want to go mental again for a few months I think, especially with beach time coming up in the summer.
That's some amazing progress so far, KT s0ng. What's your goal weight and how tall are you?
Hi and thanks. I'm 181cm tall. My weight goal is to just to look average and be healthy. Right now I look OK but my profile is still too bulky. I would say at least another 10kg so 75kgish. But honestly I won't know until I see myself I have friends of the same height that are like 68kg and they don't look skinny so we'll see.
also worked on my bench form with light weights because my shoulder/elbow still hurts :/ think I might have to go see a doctor because it doesnt seem to go away on its own.
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