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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 17:14:57
December 23 2011 17:13 GMT
#14421
haha nice

i done pushups 20-20-20-20-11 and 3 1-minute planks. you can do lateral raises (shoulders)
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KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
December 23 2011 18:27 GMT
#14422
I posted this in the Olympic weightlifting thread without response and I was hoping I might get some here;

I have been thinking about buying olympic lifting shoes lately, the problem is I train on carpeted floor, it's not soft at all. But my heel stills sicks about a millimeter into the floor when deadlifting or squatting. This worrying me, is it still worth it buying a pair of shoes?

If so, is there any shoes you guys would recommend?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20163 Posts
December 23 2011 19:04 GMT
#14423
I don't think oly shoes are worth it unless you're doing Olympic lifts. Just squat and deadlift barefoot.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
unsoundlogic
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States391 Posts
December 23 2011 19:05 GMT
#14424
Update: from January til now. I basically made no progress since the beginning of summer T_T lost my motivation. Nevertheless here is how I've fared
Before || After
Weight: 150ish lbs || 165 lbs
Bench: 150 || 170 3x5
Squats: 85 || 205 3x5
Deadlift: 95 || 225 1x5
OHP: 85 || 105 T_T 3x5

The numbers suck for a year, but I basically hit those numbers about end of February...then lost motivation and could only manage to maintain it. Oh well, here's to next year

Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
December 23 2011 19:24 GMT
#14425
On December 24 2011 04:05 unsoundlogic wrote:
Update: from January til now. I basically made no progress since the beginning of summer T_T lost my motivation. Nevertheless here is how I've fared
Before || After
Weight: 150ish lbs || 165 lbs
Bench: 150 || 170 3x5
Squats: 85 || 205 3x5
Deadlift: 95 || 225 1x5
OHP: 85 || 105 T_T 3x5

The numbers suck for a year, but I basically hit those numbers about end of February...then lost motivation and could only manage to maintain it. Oh well, here's to next year



the answer is probably eat more. those numbers dont seem high enough to warrant switching programs. maybe try GOMAD if you are having trouble getting cals?
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
December 23 2011 19:26 GMT
#14426
well you more than doubled your squat and deadlift, unless its missing a '1'. I think your numbers are pretty decent for your weight.
For the Swarm!
unsoundlogic
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States391 Posts
December 23 2011 19:34 GMT
#14427
On December 24 2011 04:24 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 04:05 unsoundlogic wrote:
Update: from January til now. I basically made no progress since the beginning of summer T_T lost my motivation. Nevertheless here is how I've fared
Before || After
Weight: 150ish lbs || 165 lbs
Bench: 150 || 170 3x5
Squats: 85 || 205 3x5
Deadlift: 95 || 225 1x5
OHP: 85 || 105 T_T 3x5

The numbers suck for a year, but I basically hit those numbers about end of February...then lost motivation and could only manage to maintain it. Oh well, here's to next year



the answer is probably eat more. those numbers dont seem high enough to warrant switching programs. maybe try GOMAD if you are having trouble getting cals?

Lactose intolerant, which is why I'm having trouble gaining weight T_T
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
December 23 2011 20:48 GMT
#14428
Christmas update: I started doing SS around June/July. From then until now I've suffered a bunch of setbacks from injuries/illness. Hamstring strain, lower back pain, elbow pain, ITBS, hip strain, food poisoning. Some from bad form, some from sports, some from bad luck. So while I'm not as improved as I hoped to be I'm still pleased with my beginner gains.

Before || After
Weight: 5'8 140ish lbs || 158ish lbs
Bench: 115 || 155 3x5
Squats: 135 || 210 3x5
Deadlift: 155 || 285 1x5
OHP: 95 || 125 3x5

My gym membership is expired and I won't have money to get a new one until the new year. I'm going to take a break from SS for a few weeks, do a little body weight workouts just for fun, then make one more SS push.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
December 23 2011 23:38 GMT
#14429
Gonna start smolov next week, including introductory cycle.
I will ideally take a protein shake, go to sauna (new gym has it), and then get home for more food and a nap after each training session during both 4 week intense periods.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20163 Posts
December 24 2011 00:12 GMT
#14430
Was reading a women's fitness magazine while bored in line. Almost cried.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
December 24 2011 01:40 GMT
#14431
i think my mom is on a low fat diet. she said her cholestoral was 19 according to the doctor and there is soya milk in the fridge. i dont think she wants to talk about it for some reason (probably coz we get into arguements easily and shes depressed or cant be fucked idk). i almost had to force her to have a tiny bit of chicken last night :/ on the whole it looks like shes doing a good job, doesnt look overweight and uses a steamer to cook veggies (tho there is a tub of vegetable oil on the side). only 1 pizza in the fridge!! (we used to live off disgusting cheap pizzas)

my sister was munching on vegetarian sausages (like 6 boxes of them in the big fridge) so i read out the back of the package to her and she lulled at all the crap stuck in them she didnt realise. she is vegetarian (mostly) coz shes studying to become a vet and knows a lot about animal cruelty. i said i guess it makes sense if you cant afford humane food and you're involved in it.

meeting my grandmother tomorrow and might broach the subect of ketogenic diet since she is having TIAs or something every freakin week. it kinda sucks working in a nursing/carehome, where you are serving out processed food and bowls of cake with a smile knowing you're just contributing to their death lol.

yes im bored i woke up at midnight -_-
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 24 2011 01:52 GMT
#14432
So a quick update for me as well, still sticking to my heavy lift + isolation hybrid that nobody here seems to like. It's been going good for my upper body, I've been getting lazy with my legs lately, and they haven't moved much lately, it's just so much more motivating getting a large chest or nice arms when you look into the mirror.

So my program started in July and in December it's at:

Before || After
Weight: 145lbs || 172 lbs
Bench: 115lb || 205lb
Squats: 175lb || 275lb
Deadlift: 175lb || 315lb
OHDP: 45lb(x2) || 60lb(x2)
Dips: 4 rep || 10 rep (+75lb)

I also bought some soy protein powder like a week ago, hopefully that'll speed up my progress a little. I've kept my work out pretty consistent, sticking to my 3x a week schedule, two muscles each day. I've been switching up the exercises quite a bit trying to find ones that are suitable for me, and right now what I have is:

Chest: Decline Bench press, Incline Dumbell press, Flat flies, incline flies
Back: Pull-ups, Seated row (cable), Incline wide-grip row
Biceps: Standing straight bar curls, Sitting alternating curls, 30 Degree laying hammer curls
Triceps: Dips, Skull-Crusher, Overhead extention
Shoulders: Sitting overhead dumbell press, Front & side raise, opposite of flies (machine)
Legs: Squat, 45 degree leg press, leg extensions, leg curls
Lower Back: Deadlift, lying back arches
Forearms: Wrist curl, reverse wrist curl

In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
December 24 2011 01:57 GMT
#14433
you must have a lot of time in the gym. i get through about 4-5 exercises 3 times a week if i'm lucky
Grubby - SaSe - Oz - Hero
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 02:20:57
December 24 2011 02:15 GMT
#14434
On December 24 2011 10:57 emjaytron wrote:
you must have a lot of time in the gym. i get through about 4-5 exercises 3 times a week if i'm lucky


Well I think there's 24. And two muscles a day:

Shoulders + Legs = 7
Chest + Bicep = 7
Back + Tricep = 6

Those take about 80-90 minutes, just don't slack. And then I add deadlift + lower back which is quick to my back day (very quick), I add forearms to my chest and biceps (2 quick exercises)... And there ya go, oh I also do one trap exercise on my shoulder day. Usually I spend 100-115 minutes in the gym. All my lifts are 6 sets (12,10,6,6,5,5) where the first two are warm ups. Except deadlift, which is one set, forearms are 4 sets, other back exercise also 4 sets. On my shoulder day I should do a calf exercise too, but I haven't done it in over a month because I just get lazy and think it's useless to train it.

The people who do SS and get 3-4 exercises done in a day... Idk it seems weird to me, because even after I do Squat, DL, and press, it's not like I'm completely exhausted yet, and I feel that's a perfect time to take advantage of things like bicep curls etc, say what you will, but SS will make your legs much bigger than your upper body, and your chest a lot bigger than your arms, which is more practical, but not very aesthetically pleasing imo.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 02:34:17
December 24 2011 02:32 GMT
#14435
i do dumbell curls at the end of SS maybe once a week (easy to forget), will probs swap them out for chinups when i can do 4-5 chinups safely (havent tried)

i do not do wrist curls but after deadlift/whenever i will go and hold onto a 20kg plate for a while, which is good enough for me atm. i can hold it for like 15 secs before risking injury lol, funny. there was an article on bodybuilders.com or smt saying wrist curls are crap and you should just focus on grip (deads) which will build your forearms adequately
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20163 Posts
December 24 2011 02:45 GMT
#14436
On December 24 2011 11:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 10:57 emjaytron wrote:
you must have a lot of time in the gym. i get through about 4-5 exercises 3 times a week if i'm lucky


Well I think there's 24. And two muscles a day:

Shoulders + Legs = 7
Chest + Bicep = 7
Back + Tricep = 6

Those take about 80-90 minutes, just don't slack. And then I add deadlift + lower back which is quick to my back day (very quick), I add forearms to my chest and biceps (2 quick exercises)... And there ya go, oh I also do one trap exercise on my shoulder day. Usually I spend 100-115 minutes in the gym. All my lifts are 6 sets (12,10,6,6,5,5) where the first two are warm ups. Except deadlift, which is one set, forearms are 4 sets, other back exercise also 4 sets. On my shoulder day I should do a calf exercise too, but I haven't done it in over a month because I just get lazy and think it's useless to train it.

The people who do SS and get 3-4 exercises done in a day... Idk it seems weird to me, because even after I do Squat, DL, and press, it's not like I'm completely exhausted yet, and I feel that's a perfect time to take advantage of things like bicep curls etc, say what you will, but SS will make your legs much bigger than your upper body, and your chest a lot bigger than your arms, which is more practical, but not very aesthetically pleasing imo.


if you're not tired you're probably not moving enough weight.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
December 24 2011 04:51 GMT
#14437
Went to the gym for the first time In like two weeks.

Somebody, QUICK, put me on the right track and help me regain some sense!

Squat: 120kg x 3 x 5
Deadlift: 140kg x 1 x 5
Bench press: 90kg 3 x 5

Drank 400ml of MuscleMilk.

Shit tastes so fucking awesome. and it's a good protein source! :D.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 24 2011 05:24 GMT
#14438
On December 24 2011 11:45 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 11:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 24 2011 10:57 emjaytron wrote:
you must have a lot of time in the gym. i get through about 4-5 exercises 3 times a week if i'm lucky


Well I think there's 24. And two muscles a day:

Shoulders + Legs = 7
Chest + Bicep = 7
Back + Tricep = 6

Those take about 80-90 minutes, just don't slack. And then I add deadlift + lower back which is quick to my back day (very quick), I add forearms to my chest and biceps (2 quick exercises)... And there ya go, oh I also do one trap exercise on my shoulder day. Usually I spend 100-115 minutes in the gym. All my lifts are 6 sets (12,10,6,6,5,5) where the first two are warm ups. Except deadlift, which is one set, forearms are 4 sets, other back exercise also 4 sets. On my shoulder day I should do a calf exercise too, but I haven't done it in over a month because I just get lazy and think it's useless to train it.

The people who do SS and get 3-4 exercises done in a day... Idk it seems weird to me, because even after I do Squat, DL, and press, it's not like I'm completely exhausted yet, and I feel that's a perfect time to take advantage of things like bicep curls etc, say what you will, but SS will make your legs much bigger than your upper body, and your chest a lot bigger than your arms, which is more practical, but not very aesthetically pleasing imo.


if you're not tired you're probably not moving enough weight.


I just find that if you do Squat, Bench, Deadlift like SS workout A says to... Sure you've worked your chest, entire back, and legs. But you still haven't exhausted your shoulders, biceps, triceps, calves, some leg curls are nice to add as well. Mentally you may be tired, but I'm still able to lift high weights with the rest of my muscles, and going to the gym for 30-40 minutes feels too short sometimes.

Again I realize this is a tested program that has worked very well for people, so I wont try to make a debate happen, but it's how I felt about SS for the two weeks I did it.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 05:41:21
December 24 2011 05:40 GMT
#14439
On December 24 2011 11:32 FFGenerations wrote:
i do dumbell curls at the end of SS maybe once a week (easy to forget), will probs swap them out for chinups when i can do 4-5 chinups safely (havent tried)

i do not do wrist curls but after deadlift/whenever i will go and hold onto a 20kg plate for a while, which is good enough for me atm. i can hold it for like 15 secs before risking injury lol, funny. there was an article on bodybuilders.com or smt saying wrist curls are crap and you should just focus on grip (deads) which will build your forearms adequately


A good thing to do is wrap a cloth around the dumbbell while doing hammer curls or anything involving dumbbells, and it trains your grip a lot more.

I'm undecided on wrist curls, I like them because they really require no energy, and the burn you get out of them is beautiful. My forearms are not very big, and I think that it's mainly because I do lots of lifts that don't use much weight (like bicep curls and shit lol) hence my forearms don't grow like people on SS who do DL, bench, etc very often.

Edit: Also unrelated, PR at the gym today, 65lb(x2) sitting overhead dumbell press for 5 reps! (:

In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20163 Posts
December 24 2011 06:08 GMT
#14440
On December 24 2011 13:51 funkie wrote:
Went to the gym for the first time In like two weeks.

Somebody, QUICK, put me on the right track and help me regain some sense!

Squat: 120kg x 3 x 5
Deadlift: 140kg x 1 x 5
Bench press: 90kg 3 x 5

Drank 400ml of MuscleMilk.

Shit tastes so fucking awesome. and it's a good protein source! :D.


Quit being a bitch. Your DL should be way higher than my CJ by now.

On December 24 2011 14:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 11:45 decafchicken wrote:
On December 24 2011 11:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 24 2011 10:57 emjaytron wrote:
you must have a lot of time in the gym. i get through about 4-5 exercises 3 times a week if i'm lucky


Well I think there's 24. And two muscles a day:

Shoulders + Legs = 7
Chest + Bicep = 7
Back + Tricep = 6

Those take about 80-90 minutes, just don't slack. And then I add deadlift + lower back which is quick to my back day (very quick), I add forearms to my chest and biceps (2 quick exercises)... And there ya go, oh I also do one trap exercise on my shoulder day. Usually I spend 100-115 minutes in the gym. All my lifts are 6 sets (12,10,6,6,5,5) where the first two are warm ups. Except deadlift, which is one set, forearms are 4 sets, other back exercise also 4 sets. On my shoulder day I should do a calf exercise too, but I haven't done it in over a month because I just get lazy and think it's useless to train it.

The people who do SS and get 3-4 exercises done in a day... Idk it seems weird to me, because even after I do Squat, DL, and press, it's not like I'm completely exhausted yet, and I feel that's a perfect time to take advantage of things like bicep curls etc, say what you will, but SS will make your legs much bigger than your upper body, and your chest a lot bigger than your arms, which is more practical, but not very aesthetically pleasing imo.


if you're not tired you're probably not moving enough weight.


I just find that if you do Squat, Bench, Deadlift like SS workout A says to... Sure you've worked your chest, entire back, and legs. But you still haven't exhausted your shoulders, biceps, triceps, calves, some leg curls are nice to add as well. Mentally you may be tired, but I'm still able to lift high weights with the rest of my muscles, and going to the gym for 30-40 minutes feels too short sometimes.

Again I realize this is a tested program that has worked very well for people, so I wont try to make a debate happen, but it's how I felt about SS for the two weeks I did it.


Yeah thats why i like oly lifting, two lifts and everything in my body gets worked :D
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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