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DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
December 20 2011 07:34 GMT
#14361
On December 20 2011 03:41 purecarnagge wrote:
260lbs today. thats 15 lbs in 3 weeks. With one of those weeks being finals and only working out 1x that week. I'm almost halfway to my intial goal of 240lbs.

Excellent progress, Purecarnagge! The first couple weeks you'll lose weight pretty quickly but if you maintain a good diet you can keep a nice rate of continued weight loss without much effort.

Keep us updated. ^^
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 10:17:11
December 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#14362
On December 20 2011 15:17 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 10:50 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On December 20 2011 10:13 phyre112 wrote:
On December 19 2011 20:53 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Today's workout:

Squat 102,5kg 5-5-5 ATG, really proud
Bench Press 72,5kg 5-5 75kg 1x3 72,5kg 1x5
Deadlift 132,5kg 1x2

I had one of those existentialist conversations with myself after squats. 'Wehh, this can't be healthy wehhh, maybe I should switch programs wehhh, I didn't sleep enough so it's okay if I fail WEHHHHHH, IS THIS REALLY MAKING ME HAPPY?! WEHHH', but then I realised that the goal in life is to be awesome so I just smashed bench.


Dammit, I have to get eating if I'm going to stay ahead of you =(.

I've got 5kg on you in squat, even in bench (but for 5x5), and even in deadlift last time I pulled heavy - but that was before rugby, I've taken months off from heavy deads. Probably couldn't pull more than 120kg if I went in to deadlift tomorrow. You're right around my height/weight, correct? (193 cm/84kg)

Race to 1.5x BW squat (125kg) 1.75x BW dead (150kgish) and, because BW is so close for both of us, 100kg bench?

Make it three separate races, or have to accomplish all three? 1rm, set of 5, or 3x5?

I'm 1.96. Will get an accurate measurement on friday (if the french gym is open). I think I'll keep eating and sleeping like a boss and try to squeeze out a few weeks more progress on Starting Strength, then switch to BillStarr's 5x5.
But yeah on July 1st I was squatting 30kg and on the 11th that was 50kg. I think you do indeed gotta change something or I'll overtake you >:D

I'll race you to squats and deads, but my bench is pretty weak so meh :D


My bench is bad too, but I'm working on it. It's always a work in progress.

My stats honestly are so low for a couple reasons:

1) Excuses
2) Excuses
3) Excuses
4) Excuses


Fixed. You gotta man up for e-sports. I made five months of progress on you, basically. That's rediculous and you should do something about it.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 20 2011 11:49 GMT
#14363
been in korea for a little while now and we dont really eat enough/the right things to support working out.
a cook makes all our food for us, generic korea food with lots of white rice and veggies and random shit, not a lot of meat. empty carbs and not much protein. is it possible for me to sufficient nutrients to work out and build muscle with supplements or do i need to make additional meals for myself? if so, which supplements, are they available in korea, and can you get good protein powder/protein bars/whatever in korea or do i need to order them from the us?

havent done any research on this myself yet was hoping one of you could make my life easy. thanks.
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 20 2011 12:00 GMT
#14364
On December 20 2011 20:49 IdrA wrote:
been in korea for a little while now and we dont really eat enough/the right things to support working out.
a cook makes all our food for us, generic korea food with lots of white rice and veggies and random shit, not a lot of meat. empty carbs and not much protein. is it possible for me to sufficient nutrients to work out and build muscle with supplements or do i need to make additional meals for myself? if so, which supplements, are they available in korea, and can you get good protein powder/protein bars/whatever in korea or do i need to order them from the us?

havent done any research on this myself yet was hoping one of you could make my life easy. thanks.


There are several options I think....

First would be asking the cook to do more meaty stuff. Supplements would be great, just some regular whey since the main thing you seem to be lacking is protein and perhaps some fish oil. I have no idea what are good/bad supplement companies in SK but a quick run on google showed that my personal favourite seems to sell in Korea.

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/retailers.php

It's not ideal to workout with bad nutrition but I'd still say it is better than eating shit and not working out.
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
December 20 2011 12:37 GMT
#14365
On December 20 2011 20:49 IdrA wrote:
been in korea for a little while now and we dont really eat enough/the right things to support working out.
a cook makes all our food for us, generic korea food with lots of white rice and veggies and random shit, not a lot of meat. empty carbs and not much protein. is it possible for me to sufficient nutrients to work out and build muscle with supplements or do i need to make additional meals for myself? if so, which supplements, are they available in korea, and can you get good protein powder/protein bars/whatever in korea or do i need to order them from the us?

havent done any research on this myself yet was hoping one of you could make my life easy. thanks.


I've never lived in Korea, but Korea and Japan are pretty similar in a lot of regards so maybe the situation here is the same.

If you're having enough trouble getting sufficient protein, I recommend a simple whey protein. If you're lactose intolerant, you can just go for whey protein isolate. You can most likely just buy whey in Korea (not isolate most likely), but ordering from www.iherb.com would probably be cheaper, even including shipping (especially so if you're ordering using KRW). Their overseas shipping services are pretty good so it would be a good place to start.

Of course, this depends on how little protein you happen to be eating right now. If you're only getting something like 30g/day from food, and you want to get the standard of 1g of protein/1 pound of bodyweight, you'll probably be better off going out for a protein rich meal once a day and then filling in the rest with whey. Getting the vast majority of your protein from supplements is not recommended.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
December 20 2011 12:53 GMT
#14366
ya get some protein milkshake tubs and an electric blender
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Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
December 20 2011 13:29 GMT
#14367
Idra, I dunno how it works in your house, if the team pays for the food, etc, but I guess you can buy some meat yourself (tuna fish is pretty cheap) and ask the cook to prepare it for you. You can always drink a lot of milk, eat cheese, yogurts as they are an easy way to get some protein. Check this site: http://www.howmuchprotein.com/foods/
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Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland312 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 14:33:15
December 20 2011 14:31 GMT
#14368
I was lifting for 3 months with no access to kitchen or fridge, so quite similar situation to Idra's. Snack on nuts (especially almonds) all day. Eat a tub of cottage cheese in the evening, for dat dere slow digesting casein. Ofc things like peanut butter, tuna, canned beans are good easy sources of protein as well. I also dipped everything in olive oil for healthy fats. Drink milk and whey if you don't meet your daily protein goals that way alone.

Anyway, I'm looking for some advice myself. Been lifting for just over 3 months, started at skinnyfat with no muscle.

http://i.imgur.com/vQOqd.jpg

I'm doing SS with added chin-ups. Started with bar only on all, atm my 3x5 are: squat 90kg, dl 110kg, bench 60kg, ohp 40kg.

As you can probably see in pic and from stats, my upper-body is lacking. I still wanna do something like SS, cause I wanna maximize the easiest gains I'll ever have. Should I start squatting less? Add some arm assistance? I haven't seriously stalled on anything yet, so in theory I shouldn't be switching routines, but those legs are becoming huge
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 20 2011 14:43 GMT
#14369
On December 20 2011 23:31 Gomas wrote:
I was lifting for 3 months with no access to kitchen or fridge, so quite similar situation to Idra's. Snack on nuts (especially almonds) all day. Eat a tub of cottage cheese in the evening, for dat dere slow digesting casein. Ofc things like peanut butter, tuna, canned beans are good easy sources of protein as well. I also dipped everything in olive oil for healthy fats. Drink milk and whey if you don't meet your daily protein goals that way alone.

Anyway, I'm looking for some advice myself. Been lifting for just over 3 months, started at skinnyfat with no muscle.

http://i.imgur.com/vQOqd.jpg

I'm doing SS with added chin-ups. Started with bar only on all, atm my 3x5 are: squat 90kg, dl 110kg, bench 60kg, ohp 40kg.

As you can probably see in pic and from stats, my upper-body is lacking. I still wanna do something like SS, cause I wanna maximize the easiest gains I'll ever have. Should I start squatting less? Add some arm assistance? I haven't seriously stalled on anything yet, so in theory I shouldn't be switching routines, but those legs are becoming huge


Huh? If you're still making progress why would you stop, and what's the problem with huge legs...
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 20 2011 15:00 GMT
#14370
are almonds the best nut to snack on or just a preference?
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 15:09:04
December 20 2011 15:04 GMT
#14371
yeah, almonds and walnuts are pretty good

@Gomas: SS is not the best program if you want a huge upper body and dont care about legs. but i'd still advise you keep milking those beginner gains on strict SS and switch over to a bro routine once you've hit some respectable numbers with SS.
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
December 20 2011 15:11 GMT
#14372
Whey, milk, eggs, nuts, cottage cheese (if you can stand it) or quark cheese are all good to reach your daily protein goals.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 20 2011 15:31 GMT
#14373
Nuts are decent to snack on overall (there's no real 1 best nut either -- mostly your preference).

Although they don't give you much protein if that's what you're looking for. Most plants, nuts, soy, etc. only have protein that is about 40-70% bioavailable in your intestines to use.

Animal proteins like meats, fish, chicken, eggs, etc. are more along the lines of 90-99% available to use which is why they tend to be universally better.

If your goal is to get more protein and calories overall, then whole milk is probably the best thing if you're not lactose intolerant. Great for building muscle mass.
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 20 2011 15:34 GMT
#14374
On December 20 2011 23:31 Gomas wrote:
I was lifting for 3 months with no access to kitchen or fridge, so quite similar situation to Idra's. Snack on nuts (especially almonds) all day. Eat a tub of cottage cheese in the evening, for dat dere slow digesting casein. Ofc things like peanut butter, tuna, canned beans are good easy sources of protein as well. I also dipped everything in olive oil for healthy fats. Drink milk and whey if you don't meet your daily protein goals that way alone.

Anyway, I'm looking for some advice myself. Been lifting for just over 3 months, started at skinnyfat with no muscle.

http://i.imgur.com/vQOqd.jpg

I'm doing SS with added chin-ups. Started with bar only on all, atm my 3x5 are: squat 90kg, dl 110kg, bench 60kg, ohp 40kg.

As you can probably see in pic and from stats, my upper-body is lacking. I still wanna do something like SS, cause I wanna maximize the easiest gains I'll ever have. Should I start squatting less? Add some arm assistance? I haven't seriously stalled on anything yet, so in theory I shouldn't be switching routines, but those legs are becoming huge


Imo your upperbody isn't lacking, you've had great proress with SS and why fix something that isn't borken?

Your legs aren't that huge tbh.
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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5459 Posts
December 20 2011 16:13 GMT
#14375
You can't buy cottage cheese in Korea (that I've ever seen outside speciality stores). Nor canned beans, unfortunately. Peanut butter is insanely expensive also ($10+ for a medium sized jar) but you can get it for cheap at Costco.

Idra: you can go to Namdaemun (the "grey/black" traditional Korean market near City Hall area) and find protein powder there. I bought 10 pounds a couple weeks ago for 130,000 won. Can't get it for much cheaper than that in Korea, especially when you order it online. Buying it in 5 pound tubs usually costs about 70-80,000 won.

Hard to find the woman who sells it though in that maze... Let me know if you'd want me to try and give you directions.

NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
December 20 2011 16:20 GMT
#14376
Don't go for cheap, go for quality. Protein powder has a sick protein-to-money ratio. Just go with like Optimum Nutrition Gold whey. Really wouldn't try to skimp on Protein Powder, heard some bad things.

And food should be cheaper in Korea, so just get the chef to throw in more meat.
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Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland312 Posts
December 20 2011 16:21 GMT
#14377
I just like almonds, and they don't have any overwhelming taste like other nuts, so I can eat them in large quantities. I always seen them recommended as good bodybuilding snacks thou.

"Almonds provide a good source of protein and fat, but it’s their vitamin E that is most beneficial to your muscles. The powerful antioxidant fights free radicals and helps you recover quicker from your workouts."
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
December 20 2011 16:25 GMT
#14378
Sorry but I can't stop thinking of Fruitdealer dropping off snacks for Idra. I'm horrible.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5459 Posts
December 20 2011 16:32 GMT
#14379
On December 21 2011 01:20 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Don't go for cheap, go for quality. Protein powder has a sick protein-to-money ratio. Just go with like Optimum Nutrition Gold whey. Really wouldn't try to skimp on Protein Powder, heard some bad things.

And food should be cheaper in Korea, so just get the chef to throw in more meat.


It's the same stuff you buy at the GNC or any other health store. The sellers get it from the US military cheap and then re-sell it. On that note, if you can get access to a military base, that's the best place for protein powder in Korea. But anyway, the stuff at Namdaemun isn't cheap or a knock-off brand or anything. Actually, the one I bought is the same one on iherb.com >_<
KT s0ng
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Korea (South)88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 16:33:40
December 20 2011 16:32 GMT
#14380
Little diary/update, spoilered because there's not much health info:
+ Show Spoiler +

Down to 85/86kg now. My last post was 93kg about a month ago (original original weight was 120kg in May). This month I've just been running in the real world down by a river, around 6/7km a night. Actually the last week I've been pretty sick so I didn't run I just kept to my diet of kimchi jiggae (soup) and veggie rice and I'm still losing weight. My body is so fucking weird right now, haha. Like I have some manboobs and a little gut but the area in between is pretty thin, and my lower back is looking good, but I still have some fat on my upper back. From the front I look pretty good (I buy clothes now in Korea, like a US medium/95 woot woot), but from the side it's just damn strange.

I've been losing a little willpower because I'm pretty happy with how I am and I've been enjoying playing SC this week and just keeping my diet and losing weight a little slower. I used to really want a girlfriend but now I'm actually in the position to get one, it seems like a lot of hassle kekeke

But still after Christmas I want to go mental again for a few months I think, especially with beach time coming up in the summer.
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