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glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
December 09 2011 17:50 GMT
#14161
Load the bar on the back, take a few baby steps back, tighten everything, inhale, go down, and up again exhale. Repeat.
Hold your breath while doing the rep and inhale and exhale on top.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
Crawler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Estonia248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 17:59:04
December 09 2011 17:58 GMT
#14162
On December 10 2011 02:36 Zafrumi wrote:
so you hold your breath for the entire set? breathing at the top is perfectly fine (and in fact of vital importance!)


Ofc not :D I even said that I inhale when going down to squat position and exhale when I push weights up and then I breath in and out 1-2 times more before next rep or well these I take these 1-2 breaths only when it's 4th or 5th rep.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
December 09 2011 18:38 GMT
#14163
I was talking to "needsmorecelltech"
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 09 2011 19:02 GMT
#14164
shit, I'd die if I held my breath the entire set o.O
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
December 09 2011 19:46 GMT
#14165
Power cleans are getting funnier. Added 20 more pounds and felt easier than last time. Will try 60(65)kg x3x5 next session.

What a decent weight to aim at in 4-6 weeks at 75kg bw?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20163 Posts
December 09 2011 20:03 GMT
#14166
Hard to tell with power cleans. I'd say aim to at least hit your bw.

Had to stay up till ~430 with my gf at the hospital cause she needed stitches and consequently i slept till like noon. Competition tomorrow i need to wake up for at like 8am. Any tips for how i can manage to get a good night of sleep for my competition when my sleeping pattern is this fucked up?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
December 09 2011 20:48 GMT
#14167
I like to hold my breath while doing reps. It keeps everything the same so i can complete the set with same tehnique. My friends(not crawler) nag about it, that when i bench i dont breathe while pushing it up.
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
December 09 2011 21:32 GMT
#14168
On December 10 2011 05:48 inimenesc wrote:
I like to hold my breath while doing reps. It keeps everything the same so i can complete the set with same tehnique. My friends(not crawler) nag about it, that when i bench i dont breathe while pushing it up.


i do the same, it feels much better than to "force" yourself to breathe out.
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
December 09 2011 21:41 GMT
#14169
On December 10 2011 05:03 decafchicken wrote:
Hard to tell with power cleans. I'd say aim to at least hit your bw.

Had to stay up till ~430 with my gf at the hospital cause she needed stitches and consequently i slept till like noon. Competition tomorrow i need to wake up for at like 8am. Any tips for how i can manage to get a good night of sleep for my competition when my sleeping pattern is this fucked up?


I use melatonin to get sleep on sunday after rough weekends. Good stuff for fixing a sleep pattern.
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 09 2011 21:41 GMT
#14170
On December 10 2011 05:03 decafchicken wrote:
Hard to tell with power cleans. I'd say aim to at least hit your bw.

Had to stay up till ~430 with my gf at the hospital cause she needed stitches and consequently i slept till like noon. Competition tomorrow i need to wake up for at like 8am. Any tips for how i can manage to get a good night of sleep for my competition when my sleeping pattern is this fucked up?


No caffeine at all, make sure your room I'd fully dark tonight. Close the curtains, unplug the pc, put a towel under the door... Even throw a shirt over the glowing numbers on your alarm. Make it dark and quiet as you can, sleep like that is on a whole other level. Also the usual, try to start doing something relaxing like an hour and a half before sleep. You should be alright, I've been running on three or four hours a night since thanksgiving. Fuck finals man .

Also, didn't know you had a girl, congrats on that... And hope she's ok.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 23:32:52
December 09 2011 23:25 GMT
#14171
On December 10 2011 06:41 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 05:03 decafchicken wrote:
Hard to tell with power cleans. I'd say aim to at least hit your bw.

Had to stay up till ~430 with my gf at the hospital cause she needed stitches and consequently i slept till like noon. Competition tomorrow i need to wake up for at like 8am. Any tips for how i can manage to get a good night of sleep for my competition when my sleeping pattern is this fucked up?


No caffeine at all, make sure your room I'd fully dark tonight. Close the curtains, unplug the pc, put a towel under the door... Even throw a shirt over the glowing numbers on your alarm. Make it dark and quiet as you can, sleep like that is on a whole other level. Also the usual, try to start doing something relaxing like an hour and a half before sleep. You should be alright, I've been running on three or four hours a night since thanksgiving. Fuck finals man .

Also, didn't know you had a girl, congrats on that... And hope she's ok.

Well, how do you think she got the stiches in the first place? She was probably watching Decaf lift, and he by accident threw a barbell her way. Or during Rugby practice when he was in Hulk mode, he tackled her. Decaf-Hulk does not draw distinctions between opponents, teammates and spectators.

But then she pat his back and so he carried her to the hospital with his huge 'bigger deadlift than mine'-arms.


"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20163 Posts
December 09 2011 23:48 GMT
#14172
hahahaha thats great. the real story is i had a party last night, she was drunk, someone slammed a door while she had her hand in it. 5 stitches on her finger not too big of a deal. And yeah, just started dating a couple weeks ago. Never thought'd it happen, i like random hook ups too much

Just got back from the gym, took it real easy just did 3 snatch singles at 90 and 3 cj singles at 105 (one at 120). Just got my new singlet so i wore it during my session and it felt great. The guy hooked me up..got me a 90$ singlet for 40$...awesome.

On my snatch i started bringing my knees out around the bar instead of more in and it feels really good, keeps the bar closer to my body and flattens out the S curve. Also felt SUPER fast getting under the bar in my clean and jerk, can't wait to lift tomorrow.
Thinking about opening around 115-120 for snatch and 135-140 for CJ. Goal is to hit 125 and 147
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 10 2011 02:54 GMT
#14173
What you do to reset sleep is fast and then eat at the time your meals should be at.

Fasting and then hitting the meals helps to reset the body.

That's what the progamers who are flying all around are supposed to do.... but they probably don't do it.
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
December 10 2011 06:04 GMT
#14174
Been feeling really weak since the comp and getting sick. Trying to eat alot + vit d + drank some raw milk.

Told coach I was going to program myself. This is what I came up with:
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Monday
AM
front squat
PM
snatch
hang hang snatch
Push press
weighted planks


Tuesday
PM
clean and jerk
high hang clean
back squat


Wednesday
AM
front squat
PM
high pull and hang snatch below knee
snatch pull


Thursday
PM
hang clean and jerk
clean pull
jerk drive


Friday
AM
Front squat
PM
power snatch
power clean and push press
hanging leg raises
weighted back extensions


Saturday
PM
Snatch
Clean and jerk
back squat
cable chops and lifts

Sunday
Rest
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
December 10 2011 06:11 GMT
#14175
Here's a video I made of my lifts. I think my deadlift looks ok but clean and squat are pretty dodgy. I don't trust anyone at my gym to help me with my form so I'm relying on you guys, although I might try to find a good PT if the consensus is my form is a serious hazard and I can't fix it myself.

Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
December 10 2011 06:23 GMT
#14176
@Andyjay

Your deadlifts seem pretty good to me, just try and keep your back as straight as possible throughout the lift, not just when it leaves the ground. It was still pretty good, just a small tip I'd try and keep in mind.

Also, I don't do any of the olympic lifts (sadly), but I believe you are using way too much arm due to the amount of arm bend. Something I saw in a video awhile back was, right before you begin your lift as the bar is gripped, to turn your elbows outwards as far as possible. I believe it was called marionette arms? Basically, it was to teach the trainee to learn not to bend their arms and was just a tool to help them.

But I'd wait till the more experienced olympic lifters (dimsum, decaf, ect) get in here and chime in as well.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 06:33:39
December 10 2011 06:26 GMT
#14177
@AndyJay
DL: You're keeping the bar too forward. It doesn't seem obvious now because the weight is not very heavy but soon you will be tipping forward and losing your balance.
PC: Just started doing these myself so take my advice with a grain of salt. Your 2nd pull needs to be more aggressive/explosive. You should drive your elbows up when you rack. Try hang cleans to get that explosiveness.
FS: Once again, your weight is too far forward. Try to keep your back more vertical.
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
December 10 2011 06:50 GMT
#14178
For the power clean
1. Get into a set position first. Lower those hips, keep your back arched and look forward.
2. Intial pull off the ground is to keep that same back angle and drive through your heels.
3. scoop the bar into your body after the bar past your knees.
4. once bar gets to the upper thigh, drive with your hips
5. Once you drive with your hips, drop under the bar and get your elbows as high as possible to receive the bar onto your shoulders.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 07:19:51
December 10 2011 07:19 GMT
#14179
Obviousy DimSun is more qualified here, but since he didn't adress any specifics: Your Power Cleans look a bit like one constant pull and not like two distinct phases, so basically no real explosiveness before the second pull. Also the bar seems to be not close enough to the body.
Your Front Squat looks like your upper back is lacking behind, it seems you have problems holding yourself upright and have to use your arms too much to hold the barbell in place. If that is the case, no easy fix here, just need a stronger upper back.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 08:53:32
December 10 2011 08:51 GMT
#14180
Initiated tonight. my lift is going to be SHIT in the morning. Formal tomorrow, and a shit load of review sunday so I can't even just put it off a day, At least I can use gluten as an excuse to drink liquor instead of beer?

Also, I want to have Dat pump for formal. Exercises to throw in at the end of my lift? I'm doing squats, power cleans, ohp and chinups. and I should lift like ~1 hour before I go out?
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