EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 663
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Profitlol
United States94 Posts
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On November 02 2011 05:08 Profitlol wrote: Had a knee injury that put me out for like 1-1 1/2 months. Weight went down from 150- ~142. It's hard to gain weight due to the sport I play; I'm trying to put off weight gaining until I'm done with collegiate sports (1 more semester). I squat and deadlift twice a week, and I do full cleans once a week. Ugh, knee injuries. I know how that works. Sports with weight classes are for sissy men; but I would be scared to see what you could do with some real size. Speaking of weight classes and real size, as of yesterday before my workout, I'm at 182 pounds (81kg) which is 3 pounds (roughly 1 kg) behind where I should be. I suppose I can attribute that to water and to mild business the past two weeks; family visiting, followed by exams, followed by halloween, I haven't been keeping myself as "together" as I should be. I was 184 the last time I weighed myself. I wanted 195 by January - I suppose I will have to be even more careful about counting and hitting my calorie goals these next two months. Thirteen pounds to go. Also, I'm doing a no-shave november, so I'll have a nice bit of scruff to post in my progress picture at the end of the month. I'll probably shave it off immediately following that, and I'll go find a picture of my scrawny scraggly awkward self from high school/freshman year to give you all a comparison of how liittle difference an extra 50 pounds looks, and why I will never see myself as a "big" guy. | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
And be more positive, even if you don't see yourself as a big guy, most other people will. It's so weird, real life standards are really low. Being in a forum with lots of huge guys twists your vision. | ||
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Hurricane
United States3939 Posts
On November 02 2011 05:51 phyre112 wrote: Sports with weight classes are for sissy men ....................................................................................................... | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
and these are in palm out position on a hangboard...wonder if i can do one chin style on a bar. SOOOO CLOSE | ||
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Malinor
Germany4732 Posts
Well, the only solution is getting stronger and losing more weight, so let's do that instead of whining. For what it's worth, I lost 13.5kg during the last nine weeks. @sJarl: great job on the PR. Do you squat low- or high-bar? | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:21 Malinor wrote: Today I learned (again), that I may NEVER EVER do Dips as my first exercise. It kills any other upper body exercise I do afterwards. My Chin-Ups and Bench Press were disastrous. Well, Dips are basically a max-strength workout for me (got 3-3-2@138kg BW) and my forearms are just dead afterwards. Problem is, after hard pressing I normally cannot even do one full range dip at the moment. And I am reluctant to going back to that horrible assisted-dips machine... Well, the only solution is getting stronger and losing more weight, so let's do that instead of whining. For what it's worth, I lost 13.5kg during the last nine weeks. @sJarl: great job on the PR. Do you squat low- or high-bar? That's fucking incredible! Major props dude! Also, I wouldn't feel too bad about not being able to bench or chin after dips. Rippetoe considers dips to be a "better" exercise than benching, and chins are just an assistance to the main lifts. Out of curiosity/general knowledge, at what point is it better to do body weight chin-ups vs assisted chin-ups. My thought was that as long as you can do one body weight chin-up it's better/more useful than any amount of assisted chin-ups. With basically the logic being that you would start at one body weight and then work your way up (I started at like 3 and tried to add one more every work). My reasoning is that at 1RM you are building strength; and the reasons 1RM is not recommended of novices is because they aren't able to put forth maximal effort, so 1RM is not effective for them. However, with chin-ups I think even a complete novice would be able to put their full effort into a chin-up because it is so basic of an exercise. In addition to this, you are never really lifting lighter than your weight in such a manner- so training anything less doesn't really do much for you (except get you closer to being able to lift bodyweight). Is this reasoning correct, or would it be better to do multiple chins at low assistance before moving on to a higher rep at bw? What I mean is maybe going for 15reps at ~10lbs assistance, at which point you could probably do at least 1 bw, then moving on to bw. | ||
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emjaytron
Australia544 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:47 emjaytron wrote: eshlow whats a fire hydrant? Imagine you are a dog marking its territory... :p | ||
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Hurricane
United States3939 Posts
oh yeah. pr 3x5 squat @ 265. =] | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:47 emjaytron wrote: eshlow whats a fire hydrant? google image or youtube 'fire hydrant exercise' | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:37 emperorchampion wrote: That's fucking incredible! Major props dude! Also, I wouldn't feel too bad about not being able to bench or chin after dips. Rippetoe considers dips to be a "better" exercise than benching, and chins are just an assistance to the main lifts. Out of curiosity/general knowledge, at what point is it better to do body weight chin-ups vs assisted chin-ups. My thought was that as long as you can do one body weight chin-up it's better/more useful than any amount of assisted chin-ups. With basically the logic being that you would start at one body weight and then work your way up (I started at like 3 and tried to add one more every work). My reasoning is that at 1RM you are building strength; and the reasons 1RM is not recommended of novices is because they aren't able to put forth maximal effort, so 1RM is not effective for them. However, with chin-ups I think even a complete novice would be able to put their full effort into a chin-up because it is so basic of an exercise. In addition to this, you are never really lifting lighter than your weight in such a manner- so training anything less doesn't really do much for you (except get you closer to being able to lift bodyweight). Is this reasoning correct, or would it be better to do multiple chins at low assistance before moving on to a higher rep at bw? What I mean is maybe going for 15reps at ~10lbs assistance, at which point you could probably do at least 1 bw, then moving on to bw. I would just work at your 5-8 RM or so and then increase as needed. You can work unassisted with singles and move up that way. I've done it both ways with one arm chins. Both ways work. YOu can also do slow eccentrics to work it up to reps as well. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
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emjaytron
Australia544 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:24 eshlow wrote: google image or youtube 'fire hydrant exercise' It's okay I got the idea from emperorchampion. | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
My happiest moment I guess was deadlifting 135kgx12 for my 5+ set. Yesterday I managed to OHP 52.5kgx11, which means that my last 5+ set is pretty consistent in terms of reps I'm doing. Time to go to work, come home, eat, and sleep. Gotta get strong! | ||
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Jupiter
Australia73 Posts
Had my Heavy day on Sunday Squat 188kg x 4 I was really disappointed that I didn't get 5 reps. Got 3 on Thursday quite easily. On my 4th rep went down and as I was coming up something went wrong (form) and the weight transferred more to my lower back. So as I went to do the 5th rep my back was still feeling a bit of pain so I didn't complete that rep. First time that its happened definitely a form issue. After I did Bench and Barbell rows (lighter sets because of my back). Then went to the gym yesterday for my Light day Only did 3 sets of squats as my back still wasn't feeling 100% got a PR on Overhead press though - 75kg x 5 Skipped deadlifts as well. Just did some ab work and finished up. I'm supposed to squat 192kg x 3 tomorrow but I think I'll wait until next week to do it. (Im chasing 200kg x 3 but I don't think I'll make it) I'm on my 13th week of madcows so even if everything begins to stall now I'm very happy with my progress. | ||
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emjaytron
Australia544 Posts
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
On November 02 2011 06:09 glurio wrote: Internet high five for same weight phyre! And be more positive, even if you don't see yourself as a big guy, most other people will. It's so weird, real life standards are really low. Being in a forum with lots of huge guys twists your vision. depends where you live :3 in the county i used to live in, probably like 200 people train at gym out of a population of like 130,000 but when i went to the seaside city in bulgaria, it was more like 50% of the population was walking around with their tops off sporting sick bodies ;3 | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:21 Malinor wrote: Today I learned (again), that I may NEVER EVER do Dips as my first exercise. It kills any other upper body exercise I do afterwards. My Chin-Ups and Bench Press were disastrous. Well, Dips are basically a max-strength workout for me (got 3-3-2@138kg BW) and my forearms are just dead afterwards. Problem is, after hard pressing I normally cannot even do one full range dip at the moment. And I am reluctant to going back to that horrible assisted-dips machine... Well, the only solution is getting stronger and losing more weight, so let's do that instead of whining. For what it's worth, I lost 13.5kg during the last nine weeks. @sJarl: great job on the PR. Do you squat low- or high-bar? Thanks, I only squat low bar since it feels so much more comfortable. Going to try and upload the vid but it was taken on my phone so the quality is beyond shitty. Do you do any good warmup before hitting the dips? Either way, getting 3-3-2 reps at your BW is quite impressive, and then I'm not including the insane weight loss. Just keep it up but you may want to do only bench press and chin-ups on one day and then dips on another. | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On November 02 2011 21:51 sJarl wrote: Thanks, I only squat low bar since it feels so much more comfortable. Going to try and upload the vid but it was taken on my phone so the quality is beyond shitty. Do you do any good warmup before hitting the dips? Either way, getting 3-3-2 reps at your BW is quite impressive, and then I'm not including the insane weight loss. Just keep it up but you may want to do only bench press and chin-ups on one day and then dips on another. Hey buddy I've been meaning to ask, what were your final Smolov results? I figure that after I stall out on 5/3/1 (maybe 6-8 months down the line) I'll pick up Smolov. I would just say fuck it and do it now, but the honest truth is I've been squatting anywhere between 4 and 6 times a week for the past four months... I want my legs to grow less accustomed to high volume before I smash them with Smolov. | ||
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