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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 13:23:49
January 19 2011 13:18 GMT
#641
I found some interesting articles on using belt, if anyone's interested:

http://www.70sbig.com/blog/2009/12/belt-me-up-scotty/
http://www.70sbig.com/blog/2009/12/pr-friday-3/
http://www.70sbig.com/blog/2010/04/more-reasons-for-wearing-a-belt/

Before addressing other belt related topics, I want to make a bold, clarifying statement. If your goal is to get stronger (and you have been lifting longer than two months) and you refuse to wear a belt, you are a fucking idiot.
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ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 14:02:53
January 19 2011 14:02 GMT
#642
Breakfast cereals are bad, right? Even stuff that's supposed to be healthy like Special K?
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#643
On January 19 2011 18:40 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 16:16 Advocado wrote:
On January 18 2011 11:35 eshlow wrote:
On January 18 2011 10:09 Cambium wrote:
is choco whole milk common? I can only find 1% choco milk. I guess I can always mix it with nesquik?


Go with whole milk and add some choco instead


What!? I can haz coco?! I thought it was something to be avoided with the whole processed sugar in it. I guess it isn't the worst for carbs (?).


that depends on what you want from it. liquid refined sugar is great for restoring blood sugar levels post workout very quickly, or during some intensive long workout. However, it is generally not necessary unless you are going to do some other exercise shortly after, and for weight loss / limiting fat gains I wouldn't touch the stuff


Pretty much this.

If you're trying to bulk sugary carbs + protein + fat = really good post workout. That's why choco milk is effective.

If you're trying to lose weight then you're gonna want to stay away like the above.

On January 19 2011 23:02 ShAsTa wrote:
Breakfast cereals are bad, right? Even stuff that's supposed to be healthy like Special K?


Yes sir. Avoid processed foods.
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
January 19 2011 14:51 GMT
#644
Time to go Belt shopping I guess.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
January 19 2011 15:07 GMT
#645
On January 19 2011 23:51 funkie wrote:
Time to go Belt shopping I guess.


I wouldn't buy a belt if I didn't feel like I needed it.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
January 19 2011 15:19 GMT
#646
On January 20 2011 00:07 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 23:51 funkie wrote:
Time to go Belt shopping I guess.


I wouldn't buy a belt if I didn't feel like I needed it.


I don't feel like I need one, but it's better to buy one just to be safe when the time comes, and to have one around for when the douchefucks of the gym always tell me "You're lifting too much, use a belt, you're gonna get injured".

Damn their Romanian Deadlift and they pussySquats.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
January 19 2011 16:08 GMT
#647
On January 20 2011 00:19 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 00:07 sJarl wrote:
On January 19 2011 23:51 funkie wrote:
Time to go Belt shopping I guess.


I wouldn't buy a belt if I didn't feel like I needed it.


I don't feel like I need one, but it's better to buy one just to be safe when the time comes, and to have one around for when the douchefucks of the gym always tell me "You're lifting too much, use a belt, you're gonna get injured".

Damn their Romanian Deadlift and they pussySquats.


I'd then buy one that is equally broad the whole way around, like a so called powerlifting belt.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 21:15:10
January 19 2011 19:06 GMT
#648
Ok so I finally decided to write down some goals.

I'm 20 years old, 168cm tall, last time I checked I was 67kg. I just started doing squats and deadlifts not very long ago. Eventually I would like to do power cleans but for now I think I'm gonna stick with these...

(no specific weight gain goals)

current
squat: 65kg
press: 60kg
overhead press: 40kg
deadlift: 70kg
barbell row: 50kg
pull ups: 8~10x3

aiming for
squat: 120kg
press: 80kg
overhead: 60kg
deadlift: 130kg
barbell row: 70kg
pull ups: 12x3

pics!

+ Show Spoiler +
front
[image loading]

back (one of my traps is bigger than the other)
[image loading]
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
January 19 2011 19:12 GMT
#649
On January 20 2011 04:06 Donkeys wrote:
Ok so I finally decided to write down some goals.

I'm 20 years old, 168cm tall, last time I checked I was 67kg. I just started doing squats and deadlifts not very long ago. Eventually I would like to do power cleans but for now I think I'm gonna stick with these...

(no specific weight gain goals)

current
squat: 65kg
press: 60kg
overhead press: 40kg
deadlift: 70kg
barbell row: 50kg
pull ups: 8~10x3

aiming for
squat: 100kg
press: 80kg
overhead: 60kg
deadlift: 90kg
barbell row: 70kg
pull ups: 12x3

pics!

+ Show Spoiler +
front
[image loading]

back (one of my traps is bigger than the other)
[image loading]



Your Mainlifts (Squat, Deadlift) need to be a lot higher, If you're doing SS, you'll hit that in no time. ;p.

I'd suggest Squat to like 120kg and deadlift to 2x your BW. ;p (that's what I did bro) ;D
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
January 19 2011 19:17 GMT
#650
On January 20 2011 04:06 Donkeys wrote:
Ok so I finally decided to write down some goals.

I'm 20 years old, 168cm tall, last time I checked I was 67kg. I just started doing squats and deadlifts not very long ago. Eventually I would like to do power cleans but for now I think I'm gonna stick with these...

(no specific weight gain goals)

current
squat: 65kg
press: 60kg
overhead press: 40kg
deadlift: 70kg
barbell row: 50kg
pull ups: 8~10x3

aiming for
squat: 100kg
press: 80kg
overhead: 60kg
deadlift: 90kg
barbell row: 70kg
pull ups: 12x3

pics!

+ Show Spoiler +
front
[image loading]

back (one of my traps is bigger than the other)
[image loading]


The squat and especially deadlift are lifts you add weight onto very fast. Eat plenty, do SS and get stronger Size will follow.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 19:31:13
January 19 2011 19:31 GMT
#651
On January 20 2011 04:12 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 04:06 Donkeys wrote:
Ok so I finally decided to write down some goals.

I'm 20 years old, 168cm tall, last time I checked I was 67kg. I just started doing squats and deadlifts not very long ago. Eventually I would like to do power cleans but for now I think I'm gonna stick with these...

(no specific weight gain goals)

current
squat: 65kg
press: 60kg
overhead press: 40kg
deadlift: 70kg
barbell row: 50kg
pull ups: 8~10x3

aiming for
squat: 100kg
press: 80kg
overhead: 60kg
deadlift: 90kg
barbell row: 70kg
pull ups: 12x3

pics!

+ Show Spoiler +
front
[image loading]

back (one of my traps is bigger than the other)
[image loading]



Your Mainlifts (Squat, Deadlift) need to be a lot higher, If you're doing SS, you'll hit that in no time. ;p.

I'd suggest Squat to like 120kg and deadlift to 2x your BW. ;p (that's what I did bro) ;D


lol yeah you'll hit your current goals in like two months, if that :D
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
xJupiter9x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
January 19 2011 19:45 GMT
#652
Today was a pretty good workout, my legs were sore from yesterdays practice, but I did
Deadlift 1x5 @ 305
Squats 5x3 @ 225
Clean 3x5 @ 135

I wasn't too tired after my cleans so I decided that I would just keep going up in weight until I failed. Got up to 160 then couldn't hit 165.
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
January 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#653
On January 20 2011 04:31 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 04:12 funkie wrote:
On January 20 2011 04:06 Donkeys wrote:
Ok so I finally decided to write down some goals.

I'm 20 years old, 168cm tall, last time I checked I was 67kg. I just started doing squats and deadlifts not very long ago. Eventually I would like to do power cleans but for now I think I'm gonna stick with these...

(no specific weight gain goals)

current
squat: 65kg
press: 60kg
overhead press: 40kg
deadlift: 70kg
barbell row: 50kg
pull ups: 8~10x3

aiming for
squat: 100kg
press: 80kg
overhead: 60kg
deadlift: 90kg
barbell row: 70kg
pull ups: 12x3

pics!

+ Show Spoiler +
front
[image loading]

back (one of my traps is bigger than the other)
[image loading]



Your Mainlifts (Squat, Deadlift) need to be a lot higher, If you're doing SS, you'll hit that in no time. ;p.

I'd suggest Squat to like 120kg and deadlift to 2x your BW. ;p (that's what I did bro) ;D


lol yeah you'll hit your current goals in like two months, if that :D


oh i forgot to mention im doing 5x5 for everything except deadlift and pull ups. that ok?
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
January 19 2011 21:36 GMT
#654
So this?
http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
January 19 2011 21:50 GMT
#655
On January 20 2011 06:13 Donkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 04:31 decafchicken wrote:
On January 20 2011 04:12 funkie wrote:
On January 20 2011 04:06 Donkeys wrote:
Ok so I finally decided to write down some goals.

I'm 20 years old, 168cm tall, last time I checked I was 67kg. I just started doing squats and deadlifts not very long ago. Eventually I would like to do power cleans but for now I think I'm gonna stick with these...

(no specific weight gain goals)

current
squat: 65kg
press: 60kg
overhead press: 40kg
deadlift: 70kg
barbell row: 50kg
pull ups: 8~10x3

aiming for
squat: 100kg
press: 80kg
overhead: 60kg
deadlift: 90kg
barbell row: 70kg
pull ups: 12x3

pics!

+ Show Spoiler +
front
[image loading]

back (one of my traps is bigger than the other)
[image loading]



Your Mainlifts (Squat, Deadlift) need to be a lot higher, If you're doing SS, you'll hit that in no time. ;p.

I'd suggest Squat to like 120kg and deadlift to 2x your BW. ;p (that's what I did bro) ;D


lol yeah you'll hit your current goals in like two months, if that :D


oh i forgot to mention im doing 5x5 for everything except deadlift and pull ups. that ok?



I don't think you should be worried about a weight goal in the near future. If your focus is on eventually powerlifting, you should really focus on understanding and lifting with good form first. For example, Squats, what kind of squats are we talking about? Ass to grass or just 90 degree?

If you want to power clean and power clean well, you will need to have deep back and front squat forms. Not to mention flawless deads.

As for 5x5, the 5x5 rep scheme is tricky. For weight gain, you'll need to find a 5 rep weight that you can do ONLY 5 reps of. You will struggle to complete 5 for every set. That can be difficult if your form isnt rock solid.

I suggest you start with higher rep schemes with less weight to really understand your body how it works each lift, then slowly work down to the 5x5 scheme. Developing a good foundation is always better than seeking impressive numbers.
Pain is temporary, but glory is forever.
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
January 19 2011 21:58 GMT
#656
On January 20 2011 06:36 decafchicken wrote:
So this?
http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/


yup I'm doing that.

@ CommanderFluffy thanks. i'll have someone record my form hopefully next week and i'll post the vids.
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
January 19 2011 23:39 GMT
#657
Got 100 and 120 for snatch and clean and jerk (took me 4 times to get the fucking jerk T_T) Pretty happy i managed my previous maxes considering i raped and murdered my body on monday. Rest day tomorrow YAY. Had to leave early cause my ride left, back to my other gym to do my front squats soon!

On January 20 2011 06:50 CommanderFluffy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 06:13 Donkeys wrote:
On January 20 2011 04:31 decafchicken wrote:
On January 20 2011 04:12 funkie wrote:
On January 20 2011 04:06 Donkeys wrote:
Ok so I finally decided to write down some goals.

I'm 20 years old, 168cm tall, last time I checked I was 67kg. I just started doing squats and deadlifts not very long ago. Eventually I would like to do power cleans but for now I think I'm gonna stick with these...

(no specific weight gain goals)

current
squat: 65kg
press: 60kg
overhead press: 40kg
deadlift: 70kg
barbell row: 50kg
pull ups: 8~10x3

aiming for
squat: 100kg
press: 80kg
overhead: 60kg
deadlift: 90kg
barbell row: 70kg
pull ups: 12x3

pics!

+ Show Spoiler +
front
[image loading]

back (one of my traps is bigger than the other)
[image loading]



Your Mainlifts (Squat, Deadlift) need to be a lot higher, If you're doing SS, you'll hit that in no time. ;p.

I'd suggest Squat to like 120kg and deadlift to 2x your BW. ;p (that's what I did bro) ;D


lol yeah you'll hit your current goals in like two months, if that :D


oh i forgot to mention im doing 5x5 for everything except deadlift and pull ups. that ok?



I don't think you should be worried about a weight goal in the near future. If your focus is on eventually powerlifting, you should really focus on understanding and lifting with good form first. For example, Squats, what kind of squats are we talking about? Ass to grass or just 90 degree?

If you want to power clean and power clean well, you will need to have deep back and front squat forms. Not to mention flawless deads.

As for 5x5, the 5x5 rep scheme is tricky. For weight gain, you'll need to find a 5 rep weight that you can do ONLY 5 reps of. You will struggle to complete 5 for every set. That can be difficult if your form isnt rock solid.

I suggest you start with higher rep schemes with less weight to really understand your body how it works each lift, then slowly work down to the 5x5 scheme. Developing a good foundation is always better than seeking impressive numbers.


The point of beginner weight programs such as 5x5 and SS is that you pick a weight you can handle 5 reps of with perfect form that isnt too heavy and make linear progression. Deadlifting/squatting form is relatively easy you just need to DO it. Having someone else watch your form/recording it, and watching videos/other people with proper form can help a lot.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 23:57:20
January 19 2011 23:53 GMT
#658
Reset my bench today after realizing my form wasn't as described in the SS book (finally got around to read it during the break). Reset it to 145 from 195, roughly 75%.

Bench feels really weird after tucking in my shoulder blades, but I think I am getting the hang of it pretty quickly.

Because I was doing so little weight, I felt terrible after the workout, it's as if I had tons of energy that couldn't get used. I might go back later tonight and do some cleans when the gym is more empty.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
January 20 2011 00:00 GMT
#659
Sooo I just came home from badminton practice and well, I'm feeling kinda shitty. And I'd like to request the help of you, fellow TLers, to find out why. Decaf or anyone who has played an aerobic and anaerobic (like you need both parts, not 2 different sports ) demanding sport for some time might relate.

The problem is twofold, the first part is easier since I believe I know the reason behind that one but the second one is a little trickier.

First one is the damned headache I get after playing at max capacity for a long time. It is not limited to a specific area of the head, just the whole of it. I believe that is because of low blood sugar and/or dehydration.

The other...is slightly more uncomfortable. You know the nauseous feeling you get after some time like your stomach is cramping up and you just keep on going with the workout? Then in the end when the practice is over the only thing you can do is lie down, sweat and hold your stomach....and when you feel you can stand up and make your way to the bathroom you *almost* clog the toilet with a shitstorm.

I just had an episode of the latter one today.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
January 20 2011 00:02 GMT
#660
On January 20 2011 08:53 Cambium wrote:
Reset my bench today after realizing my form wasn't as described in the SS book (finally got around to read it during the break). Reset it to 145 from 195, roughly 75%.

Bench feels really weird after tucking in my shoulder blades, but I think I am getting the hang of it pretty quickly.

Because I was doing so little weight, I felt terrible after the workout, it's as if I had tons of energy that couldn't get used. I might go back later tonight and do some cleans when the gym is more empty.


Tucking your shoulder blades and getting an arch is the best thing you can do for the stability of your bench! Makes or breaks a lift for me at least.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
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