EPTSo, have at it!
And GL to anyone applying. Sure sounds like a good job.
Hack Starcraft: ggtracker is hiring! - Page 3
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Fyrn
Germany62 Posts
So, have at it! And GL to anyone applying. Sure sounds like a good job. | ||
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Zcience
Germany22 Posts
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HexSCII
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Fyrn
Germany62 Posts
Studying CS will not make you a rockstar developer. It'll most likely (depends on the university, but is probably still generally true) give you a broad basic understanding of everything but not a huge amount of real applicable skills. If you're really serious about coding in any capacity (whether it be the web, integrated systems, whatever floats your boat) the key to becoming proficient is, just like in SC2, practice. And that's where the fun begins: you don't need anything that you do not already have in order to start. You're posting on these forums on a computer and that is all you'll need. Don't let a mostly arbitrary degree that you're chasing dictate your progress. Having the degree will certify an absolute minimum of proficiency, nothing more. No good employer will ever require you to have a degree (I'd even say a math degree is potentially worth more to a coder than a CS degree.) Just start coding ..and never stop. Because in an ordinary human lifespan, you will never be able to learn everything there is to learn (not even about a field you might specialize in, simply because things move too fast)  | ||
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luxx
United States140 Posts
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HexSCII
Canada115 Posts
On April 19 2012 09:10 Fyrn wrote: Don't let a mostly arbitrary degree that you're chasing dictate your progress. Having the degree will certify an absolute minimum of proficiency, nothing more. No good employer will ever require you to have a degree (I'd even say a math degree is potentially worth more to a coder than a CS degree.) Just start coding ..and never stop. Because in an ordinary human lifespan, you will never be able to learn everything there is to learn (not even about a field you might specialize in, simply because things move too fast) :D Motivation at its highest. Thank you kind sir. | ||
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Zcience
Germany22 Posts
On April 19 2012 12:06 HexSCII wrote: :D Motivation at its highest. Thank you kind sir. So true :D If you're saying the truth, I'm pretty much f***ed D: | ||
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peacenl
550 Posts
On April 19 2012 09:10 Fyrn wrote: I keep reading these "I'm just now starting to study" replies and I really, really hate reading stuff like that. Here's an important thing that you need to realize: Studying CS will not make you a rockstar developer. It'll most likely (depends on the university, but is probably still generally true) give you a broad basic understanding of everything but not a huge amount of real applicable skills. If you're really serious about coding in any capacity (whether it be the web, integrated systems, whatever floats your boat) the key to becoming proficient is, just like in SC2, practice. And that's where the fun begins: you don't need anything that you do not already have in order to start. You're posting on these forums on a computer and that is all you'll need. Don't let a mostly arbitrary degree that you're chasing dictate your progress. Having the degree will certify an absolute minimum of proficiency, nothing more. No good employer will ever require you to have a degree (I'd even say a math degree is potentially worth more to a coder than a CS degree.) Just start coding ..and never stop. Because in an ordinary human lifespan, you will never be able to learn everything there is to learn (not even about a field you might specialize in, simply because things move too fast) It is true, getting a degree is proving that you can handle the level of work and thought. If you wish to be good at something you have to love it so much that it's your number one past time activity. Sorry to say but stating "I haven't finished college or university yet so I don't know anything about it" doesn't strike me as you having much dedication or interest to do this type of work. | ||
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Fyrn
Germany62 Posts
This is especially true for Zcience here - Germans _love_ degrees. In Germany, having a CS degree will pretty much guarantee you an entry level job with decent salary, so you'll have plenty of time to move up the ladder while having a secure income And of course there are companies where you need either a MIT degree or 15+ years of proven experience to start as the janitor's assistant. Damn, I wish I had a MIT degree, or someone reputable that could attest to my genius before 2000. It's like hitting gold, then being paid for trying to get to GM. Brought to you by Videogame Analogies - demystifying the world to nerds since 1972. | ||
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BXiT
France44 Posts
Maybe it is common practice in the US, but I can tell that it is a really toxic one. You can't ask everyone to be popularity bitchs to do some brillant work. Some people are more reserved by nature and want a clear separation between work and personnal life (Day[9] for instance). You have to respect that | ||
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Chop-Chopin
Ukraine12 Posts
On April 19 2012 21:24 BXiT wrote: I am astonished that you ask a link to web profile for a job. Maybe it is common practice in the US, but I can tell that it is a really toxic one. You can't ask everyone to be popularity bitchs to do some brillant work. Some people are more reserved by nature and want a clear separation between work and personnal life (Day[9] for instance). You have to respect that Do you really think that if you have brilliant work to show, but not a github account, it will be held against you? | ||
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ES_JohnClark
United States1121 Posts
1. This guy loves stats as much as I do. 2. He is older like me!! Good Stuff man... I would consider changing the name from Hack to something different. suggestions: SC2 Stats Help, SC2 Tweaks, StatCraft (my favorite!), .. etc.. has to be something better. Regardless of the original meaning of the word.. in the esports community.. the word Hack has a very negative connotation. | ||
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Chop-Chopin
Ukraine12 Posts
On April 19 2012 22:22 Inori wrote: I'm pretty sure links are optional, so it's not an issue anyway, but I really really doubt a person without a GH/SO account can have brilliant work to show. "Reserved by nature" is just an excuse to avoid feedback and thus polish out the flaws. Of course there are exceptions, a lot of them, very talented developers too, but then again they don't have any problems finding a job either. Also it's not about being a "populairty bitch", it's about getting your name out there, raising it's value. Employers prefer active community members, like it or not. OS projects also show that programming is a passion for you and not just a 9-5 job. Again, like it or not, it's the way it is. And it's not just US, it's the way whole IT world is. You'd know that if you'd be more open to it  tl;dr: unless you've graduated MIT at 18 or hacked google or have 200+ IQ, there is no excuse not to have GH/SO and/or being active in other ways. You're shooting yourself in the foot by avoiding that. Well, I was disagreeing BXiT, but I guess what he was referring to was someone like you, talking about "excuses" not to have a GH/SO account. It's cool of topic-starter to be willing to look at whatever code you've shared to get an opinion of your skills, but you'll find that among the people who do participate, the most skilled people are quite likely not to be sharing much. | ||
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
none of the above are requirements, just different ways to show that you are good. one of the best programmers i've ever worked with never went to college. | ||
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spancho
United States161 Posts
I just went to the site in question and started uploading 2-300 games. I love the status messages! "taking a nap...", "playing diablo 3..." "making a pizza..." "maphacking..." humor! on the internet too! who would have guessed! | ||
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Hug-A-Hydralisk
United States174 Posts
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Jisira
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ceaser
United States7 Posts
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
Hug-A-Hydralisk, I know what you mean and I've wondered the same thing. Of course, ggtracker won't be for everyone. Like any sport, some people play casually and that's great. But some people get a lot of enjoyment through sport by not only competing, but by striving to improve. And for those people, I hope they'll enjoy tools that let them see their progress, rather than just laddering endlessly and wondering if anything is really changing. Does that make a job? I'd say not really, just because it's organized and you can see your progress doesn't make it a job. What makes something a job and a grind is the feeling that you have to do it whether you want to or not, and that it's not very fulfilling... if anyone here feels that way about Starcraft, I say go try some other pursuit for a while, regain your perspective, and let the things you love about SC2 pull you back in. Just my 2 cents of course... | ||
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