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desty
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada142 Posts
May 25 2011 15:02 GMT
#41
Heuhhh Why the fuck every province of canada is allowed except quebec?
DReaMe
Profile Joined October 2002
United States337 Posts
May 25 2011 20:43 GMT
#42
damn thats a nice mtt ;-)
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Shuffleus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia764 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 06:17:00
May 26 2011 06:16 GMT
#43
From the map pool:
"Metalopolis - Normal, non-MLG version, published by Blizzard"

May i ask why you neglect the balanced version of this map and instead intentionally use the bad out of date version?
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AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
May 26 2011 17:02 GMT
#44
Part of the reason is that we had a 1,024 man open amateur tournament and we wanted consistency. MLG has published several versions of their own Metalopolis. Also, I would wager that the majority of our amateurs had never played on the MLG versions anyway.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 26 2011 21:27 GMT
#45
where's the bracket for this... starts in 2 days and there's no bracket. i'm confused =[
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MayanSc2
Profile Joined March 2010
United States198 Posts
May 26 2011 21:40 GMT
#46
On May 27 2011 06:27 Xeris wrote:
where's the bracket for this... starts in 2 days and there's no bracket. i'm confused =[


http://www.cevo.com/playoffs/bracket.php?id=1312
icedragon
Profile Joined August 2010
86 Posts
May 26 2011 23:54 GMT
#47
go me!
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compLexityGaming
Profile Joined January 2011
United States98 Posts
May 27 2011 01:08 GMT
#48
Casting... right now! http://www.justin.tv/complexity starting with qxc's ro32!
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oiceth
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia35 Posts
May 27 2011 10:51 GMT
#49
joshy's one of my fav casters, he has a good voice, otherwise its just gunna be idra vs select really, maybe sheth. rest dotn have a chance
World_Ender
Profile Joined March 2011
China40 Posts
May 27 2011 11:51 GMT
#50
Yeah will be Idra vs Select, I agree, this is an impressive bunch for NA though and I can't wait to watch the stream... gogo idra
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redbrain
Profile Joined January 2011
Northern Ireland117 Posts
May 27 2011 12:28 GMT
#51
cant wait to see cruncher get destroyed xD i will jump up and down when that happens gogo idra
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jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
May 28 2011 03:18 GMT
#52
Final brackets are out!

http://www.cevo.com/playoffs/bracket.php?id=1310

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CEVO Ahn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States159 Posts
May 28 2011 03:56 GMT
#53
Pros VS Amateurs brackets have been released. Congrats to VPchance for winning the Amateur finals vs ColRyan.

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Shuffleus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia764 Posts
May 28 2011 12:52 GMT
#54
On May 27 2011 02:02 JoshSuth wrote:
Part of the reason is that we had a 1,024 man open amateur tournament and we wanted consistency. MLG has published several versions of their own Metalopolis. Also, I would wager that the majority of our amateurs had never played on the MLG versions anyway.



This is absolutely awful reasoning. Lets look at the argument here.

1) Consistency.

I'm not quite sure if you mean consistency between the amateur open and the finals or just within the amateur open rounds themselves, so i'll answer both here.

I can see how with a 1024 man tournament it is beyond the means of feasible management to ensure that all the players remember to pick the correct map and you'll have some games on blizzards version and some on MLG version, but I fail to see the downside to this. It is the players responsibility to check the map and play the correct version. If the blizzard version so wholly disadvantages a certain player in a certain match-up, I find it hard to believe that the player would not voice their concerns within a game and correct the issue. I certainly would and i think that any player participating with a serious mindset would seek to remove a serious inhibition from their play. As long as you clearly specified which version to use in the map pool (as you did) there can be no argument from either player.
This is not a small deal we're talking about here. The difference between MLG metal and Blizzard metal is not a patch of flowers somewhere. It's essentially preventing you spawning on Steppes of War 1/3 of the time. With the competition you have (Especially in the final tournament) you're

A. Almost condemning a zerg to death in a non-mirror match-up 1/3 of the time on this map
B. Causing problems in a 'losers pick' map pool. If I just lost a game and was considering picking Metalopolis, suddenly there is a very significant chance that the map could be dramatically different than what i want. It throws an element of chance in there with serious ramifications.




2) MLG has published multiple versions of metalopolis, however they all achieve the same purpose! No close positions, No 2x2 building walling at the bottom of the ramp. They are all the same bar publishers. I don't see how there being 2 published versions of the map goes against it's use. If you want to be really specific about it, there is very clearly an MLG version uploaded by MLG staff. Tell them to use that one.



3) The players who win the amateur tournament and are thrown in with the 'pros' are not going to be noobs. They understand map imbalance and they're going to be legitimate players who compete in a host of online tournaments. Other tournaments who without a doubt don't use maps which cause severe imbalance based on spawn positions. They'll understand the implications of the MLG version and they're probably used to it.

How would a player who wins an advertised 1024 open bracket open to all American players bar 32 with a considerable prize pool not understand ramp wall-offs and close position imbalance. These are not tough concepts to grasp. Far easier than actually winning on them with Zerg against someone who knows what they're doing.


If you want to promote a fair competitive tournament then there is not a single reason to have this joke of a map in the map pool.

I can understand a misunderstanding or lack of concern for balance issues concerning things like a ramp wall-off on Shakuras plateau in PvZ (Another reason for a different map to favour the MLG version) but HOW does something like allowing close positions Metalopolis get overlooked?
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Murfshake
Profile Joined November 2010
46 Posts
May 28 2011 16:51 GMT
#55
Why bother removing player code when you can just go to the "grand master" list and add 90% of these people to your friend list anyways.
Vendor
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada115 Posts
May 28 2011 17:05 GMT
#56
On May 29 2011 01:51 Murfshake wrote:
Why bother removing player code when you can just go to the "grand master" list and add 90% of these people to your friend list anyways.



You can't actually add people from GM like that. The option for "friend" is greyed out/not there on their main "page".
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 28 2011 17:26 GMT
#57
*sigh*

Must every content use facebook ;(
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MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 19:30:36
May 28 2011 19:30 GMT
#58
:/ stream isn't featured on JTV, means I can't watch it because of canadian internet T___T

at least the vods will be on youtube, so I can watch it after

IdrA hwaiting!!
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nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
May 28 2011 19:43 GMT
#59
what does a featured stream have to do with it?
legek
Profile Joined September 2010
Slovenia153 Posts
May 28 2011 20:58 GMT
#60
Epic game
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