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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 01 2011 17:41 GMT
#61
On May 02 2011 02:34 Mr Showtime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 21:46 likeaboss wrote:
sometimes the lack of professionalism in the e-sports scene really irks me


I gotta agree with you there. The industry is growing expoentially, but if the main stars in the scene don't realize how unprofessional their behavior can be in the PUBLIC scene then the industry will continue to be a small cult thing rather than a national expansion. i.e. During the live cast at a professional tournament (Dreamhack i believe) one of the commentators used the word "raped" to describe a battle. While it is a common gamer term, it is not okay for the commentators to be using.

I know that probably was exactly what you were referring to with your comment, but regardless I am in agreement.


except no matter how big esports gets, its not being aimed at the old or soft hearted? we are playing a game where the main objective is to kill people. if your ok with that but get offended by the word rape you need to get a reality check.

the same arguements that apply to why its ok to kill things in a video game but not in real life apply to why its ok to say someone was raped in the game without it being ok to talk about raping things in real life.

floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
May 01 2011 17:59 GMT
#62
On May 02 2011 02:41 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 02:34 Mr Showtime wrote:
On May 01 2011 21:46 likeaboss wrote:
sometimes the lack of professionalism in the e-sports scene really irks me


I gotta agree with you there. The industry is growing expoentially, but if the main stars in the scene don't realize how unprofessional their behavior can be in the PUBLIC scene then the industry will continue to be a small cult thing rather than a national expansion. i.e. During the live cast at a professional tournament (Dreamhack i believe) one of the commentators used the word "raped" to describe a battle. While it is a common gamer term, it is not okay for the commentators to be using.

I know that probably was exactly what you were referring to with your comment, but regardless I am in agreement.


except no matter how big esports gets, its not being aimed at the old or soft hearted? we are playing a game where the main objective is to kill people. if your ok with that but get offended by the word rape you need to get a reality check.

the same arguements that apply to why its ok to kill things in a video game but not in real life apply to why its ok to say someone was raped in the game without it being ok to talk about raping things in real life.



For all intents we are playing a war game. In what part of the civilized world is rape justifiable even in war time? I think it's your sense of reality that is a little off
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
May 01 2011 18:05 GMT
#63
"SixPoolGaming isn't a coaching website. It is a video training website, and therefore won't conflict. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you."

Thank you for clarifying that!

So wait? I'm bad? =(
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 21:53:04
May 01 2011 18:12 GMT
#64
The benefit of SixPoolGaming is that you can get a lot of the learning for a cheaper price. For example, you could watch training videos of IdrA through SixPoolGaming for a fraction of the price of getting him to coach you for 1 hour. You can go at your own pace, and where with coaching you're getting exclusively taught by one player, with SixPoolGaming you have the resources of all of our pros!
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Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
May 01 2011 18:22 GMT
#65
The benefit of SixPoolGaming is that you can get a lot of the learning for a cheaper price. For example, you could watch training videos of IdrA through SixPoolGaming for about 1% of the price of getting him to coach you for 1 hour. You can go at your own pace, and where with coaching you're getting exclusively taught by one player, with SixPoolGaming you have the resources of all of our pros!


Will there be free content initially so we have something to base a decision whether to pay or not on? Very wary of paying for a product without some evidence of it upfront after NASL.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 01 2011 18:52 GMT
#66
On May 02 2011 03:22 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
The benefit of SixPoolGaming is that you can get a lot of the learning for a cheaper price. For example, you could watch training videos of IdrA through SixPoolGaming for about 1% of the price of getting him to coach you for 1 hour. You can go at your own pace, and where with coaching you're getting exclusively taught by one player, with SixPoolGaming you have the resources of all of our pros!


Will there be free content initially so we have something to base a decision whether to pay or not on? Very wary of paying for a product without some evidence of it upfront after NASL.


I believe there will be a lot of free content so you guys can get a taste of what we will be offering I can neither 100% confirm or deny right now however.
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JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 01 2011 19:11 GMT
#67
Sick stuff
I love it when different teams/organizations interact ^^
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
May 01 2011 19:52 GMT
#68
This will be good! So many top players!
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
May 01 2011 19:59 GMT
#69
On May 02 2011 03:12 Xeris wrote:
The benefit of SixPoolGaming is that you can get a lot of the learning for a cheaper price. For example, you could watch training videos of IdrA through SixPoolGaming for about 1% of the price of getting him to coach you for 1 hour. You can go at your own pace, and where with coaching you're getting exclusively taught by one player, with SixPoolGaming you have the resources of all of our pros!


Ohhhh. That is an interesting aspect to do it. I hope it works out for SPG then because it seems video/stream training is the way to go now a days. Good luck to them!
So wait? I'm bad? =(
raist
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada90 Posts
May 01 2011 20:13 GMT
#70
Just more immature adults trying to take advantage of a teenager's parents credit card to make more money for themselves while disguising it as growing e-sports.

But hey if a teenager is dumb enough to spend his allowance on something he can basically get for free, then go for it. Just know you are lining someones pockets

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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 01 2011 20:22 GMT
#71
On May 02 2011 05:13 raist wrote:
Just more immature adults trying to take advantage of a teenager's parents credit card to make more money for themselves while disguising it as growing e-sports.

But hey if a teenager is dumb enough to spend his allowance on something he can basically get for free, then go for it. Just know you are lining someones pockets


People pay for Poker training videos, people pay for Basketball training videos, and people pay for Starcraft training videos. Who are you to say which is a smart or dumb decision? The great thing about this world is that people have freedom to decide what they want to buy or not. If you want to get free stuff on youtube, more power to you... if people want to pay for video training, more power to them.

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rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
May 01 2011 21:23 GMT
#72
On May 02 2011 02:59 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 02:41 turdburgler wrote:
On May 02 2011 02:34 Mr Showtime wrote:
On May 01 2011 21:46 likeaboss wrote:
sometimes the lack of professionalism in the e-sports scene really irks me


I gotta agree with you there. The industry is growing expoentially, but if the main stars in the scene don't realize how unprofessional their behavior can be in the PUBLIC scene then the industry will continue to be a small cult thing rather than a national expansion. i.e. During the live cast at a professional tournament (Dreamhack i believe) one of the commentators used the word "raped" to describe a battle. While it is a common gamer term, it is not okay for the commentators to be using.

I know that probably was exactly what you were referring to with your comment, but regardless I am in agreement.


except no matter how big esports gets, its not being aimed at the old or soft hearted? we are playing a game where the main objective is to kill people. if your ok with that but get offended by the word rape you need to get a reality check.

the same arguements that apply to why its ok to kill things in a video game but not in real life apply to why its ok to say someone was raped in the game without it being ok to talk about raping things in real life.



For all intents we are playing a war game. In what part of the civilized world is rape justifiable even in war time? I think it's your sense of reality that is a little off


You do realize that the word rape doesn't necessarily refer to sexual assault. Go check a dictionary. Would it also be inappropriate for a caster to use the word murder? In my eyes murder is worse than rape... I hope you see the foolishness of your opinion and realize that commentary on a violent game will contain violent words. People need to be less concerned with political correctness and be reasonable.
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
FakeBoxeR
Profile Joined March 2011
43 Posts
May 01 2011 21:43 GMT
#73
aw why did you guys ban the guy who made the coolaid guy, this is a "ohhhh yueaaaah" moment, i died laughing
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
May 01 2011 22:21 GMT
#74
On May 02 2011 06:23 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 02:59 floor exercise wrote:
On May 02 2011 02:41 turdburgler wrote:
On May 02 2011 02:34 Mr Showtime wrote:
On May 01 2011 21:46 likeaboss wrote:
sometimes the lack of professionalism in the e-sports scene really irks me


I gotta agree with you there. The industry is growing expoentially, but if the main stars in the scene don't realize how unprofessional their behavior can be in the PUBLIC scene then the industry will continue to be a small cult thing rather than a national expansion. i.e. During the live cast at a professional tournament (Dreamhack i believe) one of the commentators used the word "raped" to describe a battle. While it is a common gamer term, it is not okay for the commentators to be using.

I know that probably was exactly what you were referring to with your comment, but regardless I am in agreement.


except no matter how big esports gets, its not being aimed at the old or soft hearted? we are playing a game where the main objective is to kill people. if your ok with that but get offended by the word rape you need to get a reality check.

the same arguements that apply to why its ok to kill things in a video game but not in real life apply to why its ok to say someone was raped in the game without it being ok to talk about raping things in real life.



For all intents we are playing a war game. In what part of the civilized world is rape justifiable even in war time? I think it's your sense of reality that is a little off


You do realize that the word rape doesn't necessarily refer to sexual assault. Go check a dictionary. Would it also be inappropriate for a caster to use the word murder? In my eyes murder is worse than rape... I hope you see the foolishness of your opinion and realize that commentary on a violent game will contain violent words. People need to be less concerned with political correctness and be reasonable.


You're right instead of trying to draw parallels to the most common definition of the word for which 99% of the time it is used for, they are instead actually trying to say something else entirely. How foolish of people to make this silly mistake.

This is like the bundle of sticks defense for calling people faggots. Honestly why even bother?

Moral debates are pointless. Do you know what it's like to be dead? How about raped? Me neither on both counts. I am sure you have radical and truly compelling reasons why we should be allowed to make rape jokes all day, but at the end of the day they aren't tasteful in the eyes of most people, and your personal opinion is irrelevant.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
May 01 2011 22:30 GMT
#75
On May 02 2011 05:13 raist wrote:
Just more immature adults trying to take advantage of a teenager's parents credit card to make more money for themselves while disguising it as growing e-sports.

But hey if a teenager is dumb enough to spend his allowance on something he can basically get for free, then go for it. Just know you are lining someones pockets

User was warned for this post



Do you know how anything works in the world... at all?

Thanks for the laugh.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 01 2011 22:36 GMT
#76
On May 02 2011 02:59 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 02:41 turdburgler wrote:
On May 02 2011 02:34 Mr Showtime wrote:
On May 01 2011 21:46 likeaboss wrote:
sometimes the lack of professionalism in the e-sports scene really irks me


I gotta agree with you there. The industry is growing expoentially, but if the main stars in the scene don't realize how unprofessional their behavior can be in the PUBLIC scene then the industry will continue to be a small cult thing rather than a national expansion. i.e. During the live cast at a professional tournament (Dreamhack i believe) one of the commentators used the word "raped" to describe a battle. While it is a common gamer term, it is not okay for the commentators to be using.

I know that probably was exactly what you were referring to with your comment, but regardless I am in agreement.


except no matter how big esports gets, its not being aimed at the old or soft hearted? we are playing a game where the main objective is to kill people. if your ok with that but get offended by the word rape you need to get a reality check.

the same arguements that apply to why its ok to kill things in a video game but not in real life apply to why its ok to say someone was raped in the game without it being ok to talk about raping things in real life.



For all intents we are playing a war game. In what part of the civilized world is rape justifiable even in war time? I think it's your sense of reality that is a little off


wanna take a second shot at reading what i actually said?
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
May 01 2011 22:51 GMT
#77
No because it's just some tired variation of the same thing every teenage boy thinks is some revelation on how offensive and edgy we should and should not be in public, the honest truth is no one gives a shit
asdd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
228 Posts
May 01 2011 23:15 GMT
#78
On May 01 2011 15:33 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 14:42 Alizee- wrote:
This seems a lot like hotkeyit.com what exactly is the difference?


Well.. you could get video coaching by amazing players like Ngry, Kowi, and Titan at Hotkeyit or ..


IdrA, SeleCT, SjoW at SixPoolGaming

seems like an ez choice, no?


NASL crew so professional.

Wow.
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GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
May 01 2011 23:33 GMT
#79
On May 02 2011 01:55 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 00:59 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
On May 01 2011 17:54 jenzebubble wrote:
On May 01 2011 12:06 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
On May 01 2011 11:51 iNcontroL wrote:
it's probably best you just get drunk and make up those answers on your stream brent.

Wouldn't want to miss another opportunity to sell out your friends for some views

Not sure which friends I had that I sold out. Geoff. As far as I know, the ones that I'm still friends with, are still friends.

I mean, you can totally tell I'm out making loads of cash and tons of videos now a days because I'm totally trying to get back into the whole commentating thing. Heck, the whole reason I made that video was cause I got paid off and I'm living in Cuba now, living the high life. I totally ended your career so I'm totally on the up and up Right?

Don't even pretend to get mad, because I know you're not. =) So I'll assume you'll continue working with GosuGuide and GosuCoaching?


I don't pretend to talk for Inc and I understand he's more than capable of replying. That having been said, you don't talk out of school.


Honestly, people are reading into this way too much.. I asked a simple question and Inc jumped back with a witty comment. I replied back sarcastically.

Back on topic. I guess another question is, will Idra keep working with GosuCoaching? I guess it wouldn't be hard to promote two coaching sites as long as no none-competitive contracts are signed. Are those even used for situations like this or even for online businesses? I know many companies that don't want competition in their specific field require contracts like that saying you can't start or join another like company for X amount of years.


SixPoolGaming isn't a coaching website. It is a video training website, and therefore won't conflict. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
Useful information to put front-and-center in the OP! I had to get to page 3 of this thread to figure that out!
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 01 2011 23:44 GMT
#80
On May 02 2011 08:33 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 01:55 Xeris wrote:
On May 02 2011 00:59 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
On May 01 2011 17:54 jenzebubble wrote:
On May 01 2011 12:06 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
On May 01 2011 11:51 iNcontroL wrote:
it's probably best you just get drunk and make up those answers on your stream brent.

Wouldn't want to miss another opportunity to sell out your friends for some views

Not sure which friends I had that I sold out. Geoff. As far as I know, the ones that I'm still friends with, are still friends.

I mean, you can totally tell I'm out making loads of cash and tons of videos now a days because I'm totally trying to get back into the whole commentating thing. Heck, the whole reason I made that video was cause I got paid off and I'm living in Cuba now, living the high life. I totally ended your career so I'm totally on the up and up Right?

Don't even pretend to get mad, because I know you're not. =) So I'll assume you'll continue working with GosuGuide and GosuCoaching?


I don't pretend to talk for Inc and I understand he's more than capable of replying. That having been said, you don't talk out of school.


Honestly, people are reading into this way too much.. I asked a simple question and Inc jumped back with a witty comment. I replied back sarcastically.

Back on topic. I guess another question is, will Idra keep working with GosuCoaching? I guess it wouldn't be hard to promote two coaching sites as long as no none-competitive contracts are signed. Are those even used for situations like this or even for online businesses? I know many companies that don't want competition in their specific field require contracts like that saying you can't start or join another like company for X amount of years.


SixPoolGaming isn't a coaching website. It is a video training website, and therefore won't conflict. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
Useful information to put front-and-center in the OP! I had to get to page 3 of this thread to figure that out!


Sorry we'll do that better next time!
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