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Invoker
Belgium686 Posts
About Six Pool Gaming: Six Pool Gaming (SPG) is dedicated to providing a service to the vast numbers of Starcraft 2 gamers across the world who wish to develop their skills. We have recruited an extensive range of elite professional gamers and designed specialized online training tools so that people of various abilities can achieve their online gaming ambitions. wow... this is a great idea. i hope everything goes as well as you guys wish. | ||
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
On May 02 2011 05:13 raist wrote: Just more immature adults trying to take advantage of a teenager's parents credit card to make more money for themselves while disguising it as growing e-sports. But hey if a teenager is dumb enough to spend his allowance on something he can basically get for free, then go for it. Just know you are lining someones pockets User was warned for this post I suppose you support the parents who decided to sue Apple because they gave their kids iPhones and let them download apps. Not teaching their kids fiscal responsibility is the parent's fault, don't be a dumbfuck. Many Starcraft players like myself are in their 20s-30s. If I want to spend money I earned on getting better at this game I don't want people like you ruining it for me. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On May 01 2011 15:33 Xeris wrote: Well.. you could get video coaching by amazing players like Ngry, Kowi, and Titan at Hotkeyit or .. IdrA, SeleCT, SjoW at SixPoolGaming seems like an ez choice, no? uh wow this is just so condescending. Sure they might not have high profile players like you do but doesn't mean you need to put them down. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On May 02 2011 09:59 dtz wrote: uh wow this is just so condescending. Sure they might not have high profile players like you do but doesn't mean you need to put them down. If you read the rest of the thread, I clarified my statement. Wasn't meant to sound that way  ! | ||
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riboflavin
United States226 Posts
On May 02 2011 10:40 Xeris wrote: If you read the rest of the thread, I clarified my statement. Wasn't meant to sound that way !You did this before though with NASL stream hype (that's panned out well, eh?). You crapped on the GOM stream, inadvertent or not, by saying how great the quality of NASL would be and made claims about what their steam is capable of. + Show Spoiler + "Stream quality: The quality of GSL's high quality paid stream is 650 kb/sec. Our free stream is going to be at 800 kb/sec, our paid stream will be 3 megabit / sec. We're offering much better stream quality than any other tournament can give you!" old qa thread It's one thing to say you are excited and will work to deliver a great experience for customers, etc. It's another to call out competition ("choice is ez") or make false claims. You should be careful to say what they can give, and instead say how your product compares with what is currently offered. It also helps to make good on the claims, otherwise the constant barrage of hype will work against you and those you attempt to promote. And if you haven't already rolled your eyes and moved on, I will add that I am all for the growth of eSports. I will support those who want to monetize it and add value to the community. However, I am very much opposed to those who attempt to tear down what others have built for their own gain. Customers and fans will keep you accountable for the things you say. I suggest more consideration for those that came before you so we can help this thing grow the right way. | ||
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Gretorp
United States586 Posts
On May 02 2011 00:20 MrCon wrote: Haha :D You shouldn't use the same hype-based marketing you used for NASL imo. just wait. Coming 2015 we have another GIANT announcement. then 2070, we have another announcement of something really big. Stay tuned! | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On May 02 2011 14:22 Gretorp wrote: just wait. Coming 2015 we have another GIANT announcement. then 2070, we have another announcement of something really big. Stay tuned! I'm going to spoil it. We're currently working on bionic hands that will make you faster than any mortal. Also, we're working on a bionic brain that will be able to process information twice as fast as a normal human's, allowing you to make those split second decisions faster. GG GRETORP! | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:56 riboflavin wrote: You did this before though with NASL stream hype (that's panned out well, eh?). You crapped on the GOM stream, inadvertent or not, by saying how great the quality of NASL would be and made claims about what their steam is capable of. + Show Spoiler + "Stream quality: The quality of GSL's high quality paid stream is 650 kb/sec. Our free stream is going to be at 800 kb/sec, our paid stream will be 3 megabit / sec. We're offering much better stream quality than any other tournament can give you!" old qa thread It's one thing to say you are excited and will work to deliver a great experience for customers, etc. It's another to call out competition ("choice is ez") or make false claims. You should be careful to say what they can give, and instead say how your product compares with what is currently offered. It also helps to make good on the claims, otherwise the constant barrage of hype will work against you and those you attempt to promote. And if you haven't already rolled your eyes and moved on, I will add that I am all for the growth of eSports. I will support those who want to monetize it and add value to the community. However, I am very much opposed to those who attempt to tear down what others have built for their own gain. Customers and fans will keep you accountable for the things you say. I suggest more consideration for those that came before you so we can help this thing grow the right way. Well, you're quoting something I said several months ago in an old Q&A thread that isn't even applicable anymore, and in no way was meant to bash on GOM. I'm sorry if you see it that way. If I say, "why eat oranges when you can eat apples... apples are so much better than oranges" , I'm not trying to trash oranges. I'm just saying how I think apples are better and that they're tasty. I'm not even saying oranges are not tasty, they could/are very well be. You're really misconstruing what I say by nitpicking a few choice words out of context and trying to be argumentative. That's not really fair to me, especially because you don't know me and have never spoken to me. Anyway I won't argue about it any longer, sorry if you don't like the way I type things out, I can't please everyone. All I can say is that we are going to be doing some great things ! | ||
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jenzebubble
United States183 Posts
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riboflavin
United States226 Posts
My previous post was ultimately a plea to you to choose your words more carefully when making claims about someone else's product -- as your comments in this thread were equally out of line. It is very likely that you will share the same customer pool, so it would be wise to not alienate them for the products they might choose just as a means to your ends. Also, I am not alone in the way your comments were construed. So once you work through the typical internet filters that we apply to forum discussions, I hope that you might see the validity in the advice and opinions your comments garnered. | ||
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riboflavin
United States226 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:39 Xeris wrote: I'm going to spoil it. We're currently working on bionic hands that will make you faster than any mortal. Also, we're working on a bionic brain that will be able to process information twice as fast as a normal human's, allowing you to make those split second decisions faster. GG GRETORP! You are too late on this product, Razer beat you to it. I hope you signed an NDA with them. : ) The second one has also been invented already as well, it's called coke. (just kidding -- don't do drugs kids) | ||
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JediGamer
United States656 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:43 Xeris wrote: Well, you're quoting something I said several months ago in an old Q&A thread that isn't even applicable anymore, and in no way was meant to bash on GOM. I'm sorry if you see it that way. If I say, "why eat oranges when you can eat apples... apples are so much better than oranges" , I'm not trying to trash oranges. I'm just saying how I think apples are better and that they're tasty. I'm not even saying oranges are not tasty, they could/are very well be. You're really misconstruing what I say by nitpicking a few choice words out of context and trying to be argumentative. That's not really fair to me, especially because you don't know me and have never spoken to me. Anyway I won't argue about it any longer, sorry if you don't like the way I type things out, I can't please everyone. All I can say is that we are going to be doing some great things ! You already made a dig at the quality of players at hotkeyit. "EZ choice". Those were your words, nobody quoted you out on context at all. And as for NASL statements being "not applicable anymore"- this is less than a few months ago. Words you said about GOMTV saying even your lowest quality will be better than their highest quality. These words were of course untrue as of now as we have seen NASL. With that said I'm sure this will be a good resource for ambitious players trying to learn. | ||
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Ledcaveman
100 Posts
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On May 02 2011 17:04 riboflavin wrote: I'll cut to the chase on this. The problem I was highlighting is that you made claims about the capability of a competitor. You effectively said that the stream quality will be better than what others are capable of. Do you not understand how that amounts to an unsubstantiated claim? There are serious perils for those who make these types of claims about competing products (or your own for that matter). My previous post was ultimately a plea to you to choose your words more carefully when making claims about someone else's product -- as your comments in this thread were equally out of line. It is very likely that you will share the same customer pool, so it would be wise to not alienate them for the products they might choose just as a means to your ends. Also, I am not alone in the way your comments were construed. So once you work through the typical internet filters that we apply to forum discussions, I hope that you might see the validity in the advice and opinions your comments garnered. Pretty much nail on the head tbh. Well argued good sir. | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
On May 02 2011 17:04 riboflavin wrote: I'll cut to the chase on this. The problem I was highlighting is that you made claims about the capability of a competitor. You effectively said that the stream quality will be better than what others are capable of. Do you not understand how that amounts to an unsubstantiated claim? There are serious perils for those who make these types of claims about competing products (or your own for that matter). My previous post was ultimately a plea to you to choose your words more carefully when making claims about someone else's product -- as your comments in this thread were equally out of line. It is very likely that you will share the same customer pool, so it would be wise to not alienate them for the products they might choose just as a means to your ends. Also, I am not alone in the way your comments were construed. So once you work through the typical internet filters that we apply to forum discussions, I hope that you might see the validity in the advice and opinions your comments garnered. Well said. Xeris and his comments (past and present) completely turn me off from anything he is involved in. | ||
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Scribble
2077 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
I guess if there's a market there someones going to charge for it though. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
Xeris and his comments (past and present) completely turn me off from anything he is involved in So true, I'm quiet surprised he is they guy chosen to be the face of so many projects. I'm surprised there's any money in things like this and the coaching when there's literally unlimited resources to help learn the game, everywhere. People always look for the "quick fix" where they can just throw money at improving instead of actually putting in hard work and dedication. Just look at the popularity of weight loss products. | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On May 03 2011 00:22 infinity2k9 wrote: I'm surprised there's any money in things like this and the coaching when there's literally unlimited resources to help learn the game, everywhere. Nevertheless it's starting to feel like this is all basically exploitation of the whole new series of gamers that are now appearing in the community; when previously things like video tutorials would have been free for everyone to view. Any money going into this, coaching or even some tournament subscriptions are not directly supporting eSports at all like some people seem to imply. I guess if there's a market there someones going to charge for it though. It reminds me of when Artosis and Gentho made a video site to learn BW where you bought the lessons. It's basically the model for this SPG thing from what I can tell. The difference was people pretty much just laughed that thing off entirely. The community balked at the idea of paying $2.99 to learn how to use lurker ling vs T or whatever their lessons were. BW was by far the more difficult to learn game, but everyone who wanted to learn it used the freely available resources. Whereas in SC2 the whole coaching thing is just ridiculously large for what they offer. On the one hand I am glad people can make money from the game, but on the other I am really wondering where all these suckers came from | ||
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