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On June 17 2015 06:33 Eppa! wrote: I liked WoD, leveling was the most fun it has ever been. PvP (except for ashran) was great even except for that we where playing RLS and none have time play together since 2/3 where not in school anymore. I played it for 2 months and was not really disappointed. Hard mode dungeons where a great thing for some fun. Yeah, the leveling experience is top notch. I can't think of a zone that I dislike and I enjoy most of the story arcs. Not to mention beautiful in typical Blizzard fashion.
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I don't even know why you would stay in D3 for end game. There were no maps like PoE or mods like D2. That game was just so incomplete it's crazy. Playing Mount and Blade got me depressed again how the triple A industry has actively removed community driven content. How can people be that blind?
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Yango again anti hyping things. E3 is about irrational hype. Its what gets you through the year man.
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D3 had a lot of problems, I don't think AH was a big one in comparison.
On June 17 2015 06:40 Cixah wrote: Yango again anti hyping things. E3 is about irrational hype. Its what gets you through the year man. fuck that, it's all about nostalgia fagging teh shit out of old rpg's, and raging in yoloqueue at league.
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On June 17 2015 06:03 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 05:54 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 17 2015 05:52 Numy wrote: Surprised you guys can still get hyped at reveals. Gaming industry has burnt me too many times to care until I have my hands on a finished product. What games specifically have burned you? I can't think of anything that I've been super burned on. Disappointed by a few things for sure, but often I hear about them being disappointing beforehand and don't end up buying the game. Edit: I was joking about this thread being a cynical bunch but my god reading all your impressions of E3 has been depressing. Just over recent years basically anything made by Blizzard. So Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2. Then there was Watch Dogs,Kingdoms of Amalur and Assassins Creed are ones that spring to mind. A lot of games I didn't land up buying but I still consider that to be "burnt" after all the hype. My rule of thumb these days is that anything a dev/publisher says is horseshit until I have my hands on the game and see it for myself. People just lie through their teeth to sell products and yet the consumers still trust them. d3 is currently amazing. release might've sucked but right now it's one of the most fun games i've played.
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On June 17 2015 06:45 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 06:03 Numy wrote:On June 17 2015 05:54 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 17 2015 05:52 Numy wrote: Surprised you guys can still get hyped at reveals. Gaming industry has burnt me too many times to care until I have my hands on a finished product. What games specifically have burned you? I can't think of anything that I've been super burned on. Disappointed by a few things for sure, but often I hear about them being disappointing beforehand and don't end up buying the game. Edit: I was joking about this thread being a cynical bunch but my god reading all your impressions of E3 has been depressing. Just over recent years basically anything made by Blizzard. So Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2. Then there was Watch Dogs,Kingdoms of Amalur and Assassins Creed are ones that spring to mind. A lot of games I didn't land up buying but I still consider that to be "burnt" after all the hype. My rule of thumb these days is that anything a dev/publisher says is horseshit until I have my hands on the game and see it for myself. People just lie through their teeth to sell products and yet the consumers still trust them. d3 is currently amazing. release might've sucked but right now it's one of the most fun games i've played. and this is the problem. blizzard fucking cock'd up, and prematurely released the game.
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http://www.dota2.com/reborn/part2/
Yea they spent 10 years making a game then released it incomplete. That's what happens when you give creative people too much freedom without any responsibility. Don't really care if they got it up to par years later through an expansion and multiple content patches.
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D3 was not incomplete, they just fucked up with the AH.now with it gone its how it should have been at release and is a pretty good game.
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I actually enjoyed the Inferno progression up till the point where using the AH was basically mandatory to feasibly progress.
Blizzard clearly knows how to design progressive content, its designing it with the AH in mind that fucked everything up.
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On June 17 2015 07:22 TheYango wrote: I actually enjoyed the Inferno progression up till the point where using the AH was basically mandatory to feasibly progress. yep
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i think the AH could come back now and be perfectly fine or at least maybe before they added ancient gear. the biggest issue with it before was that you couldn't fine your own loot. tbh i hate the ancient loot system and think it is the worst change they've made to the game.
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On June 17 2015 07:22 TheYango wrote: I actually enjoyed the Inferno progression up till the point where using the AH was basically mandatory to feasibly progress.
Blizzard clearly knows how to design progressive content, its designing it with the AH in mind that fucked everything up.
The real problem with the D3 auction house is that D3 did not have either D2 or WOW's item system. The D3 auction house with Stone of Jordan, Windforce, etc from D2 would have been incredibly simple and easy to navigate. Similarly, it would work with WoW's T1, T2, etc raiding armor sets. The problem is when you have to search through a bunch of "rares" that all have different names, and all are minor incremental upgrades that you have an AH problem.
Plus how Hell Diablo couldn't drop items that would be useful against Inferno Diablo.
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On June 17 2015 07:20 WaveofShadow wrote: D3 was not incomplete, they just fucked up with the AH.now with it gone its how it should have been at release and is a pretty good game.
It was pretty incomplete, and made in mind for the console release. D2's tree system was pretty great, and it was very nice to have different options available with builds. D3's spell system lacks in comparison. Let's also not forget that even with AH house gone, there's STILL not a decent trading system in place. They also failed to develop any form of community which was what made a lot of the older games just so much more interesting.
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On June 17 2015 07:20 WaveofShadow wrote: D3 was not incomplete, they just fucked up with the AH.now with it gone its how it should have been at release and is a pretty good game. considering how brokenly imbalanced how the classes were in reference to each other, along with relatively shallow endgame, with serious lack of PvP, ladder, and server lobbies was pretty obvious Blizzard either A) prematurely released the game or B) are so incompetent that despite the lack of these feature qualified as a full game
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On June 17 2015 06:07 Lord Tolkien wrote: none of you were that bad to be honest. the issue is that you were all new, and were not being coached like other TL mafia newbies.
I think there was also a problem of people not accepting criticism properly. Req in particular was unresponsive to anything that people attempted to help with. It had to do with how he was doing at the time and it's probably what caused him to have a negative reaction to the game itself. It's not as if the game was the most amazing thing, but I think it was okay. It was a first game for a lot of us, and I think people went in having way too high expectations of it. It had some highlights that were great. The town train near the end is still pretty funny to remember.
I also agree with you that Alaric played a really great game, and I'm unsure if I could have spotted him even if I stayed alive. I had my suspicions, but the town play(me included) wasn't great. It drew a lot of attention away from the scum.
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On June 16 2015 22:15 Seuss wrote: Hmm... I don't know if I'll ever see a better deal on Dominions 4 than 75%. and I promised phyvo I'd get it. Hmm...
Great! We should start a game soon and I'll show you the ropes. There are a *lot* of ropes.
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On June 17 2015 06:40 Cixah wrote: Yango again anti hyping things. E3 is about irrational hype. Its what gets you through the year man. I'm hype for all the things that look like I'll enjoy them, like Paper Mario x Mario&Luigi being an actual RPG.
It's just that from experience Bethedsa games and Square Enix main-series FF games have not been that in a long time.
As I said, it's a shame that Atlus didn't get anything on the main stage other than SMTxFE, because Persona 5 is definitely way more hype than FFXV or FF7 remake. I don't even think that's an outrageous opinion--I'm certainly not the only one who's felt Atlus' various SMT spinoffs have done more for the genre than Final Fantasy has in a long time, even if FF still sells better solely based on the brand.
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On this edition of "this boardgame is pretty fun", Libertalia.
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SFV looks great. IV was imo slightly to slow.
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So, thinking of streaming a bit tonight, maybe some dotka zwai, probably some dotka, but besides that, does anyone that plays Dota want any of the immortals/cache sets? I have a bunch of extras for everything, minus the goldens, I'm keeping my AM bashers and at least 1 Luna shield to sell after TI
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