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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 ).We joked yesterday that I already had part of my Spell Pierce playset with the invocation. The only exception is for the gold-bordered cards (from them printing copies of worlds' winning decks as collectible items or something?) which are explicitely not legal for play. So since I've got 3 Duress from its Dragons of Tarkir printing for example, I won't need to open some at the pre-release to play a deck using them (I'll still want to because that art is great, and when you combine it with the flavour text... ). | ||
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Gahlo
United States35156 Posts
On September 17 2017 00:10 phyvo wrote: Random MTG question: Say you're playing standard. If there is, say, a lightning bolt in the standard rotation, but you don't have one, but you have a lightning bolt from some pre-standard set, can you play it? I'm guessing that it's probably different casually vs some official tournament. Yes. All Lightning Bolts are considered the same in Standard. Not sure how Modern treats it though. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On September 17 2017 00:13 Alaric wrote: Na, any printing of a card is fine, see for example basic lands (and people pimping their decks at Pro Tours and such ).We joked yesterday that I already had part of my Spell Pierce playset with the invocation. The only exception is for the gold-bordered cards (from them printing copies of worlds' winning decks as collectible items or something?) which are explicitely not legal for play. So since I've got 3 Duress from its Dragons of Tarkir printing for example, I won't need to open some at the pre-release to play a deck using them (I'll still want to because that art is great, and when you combine it with the flavour text... ). All cards in your deck should be from the original set (and foil if they are that new) you pleb. Fuck art it's all about the bling. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Temur Energy is probably one of the cheapest bling decks in that case, nothing in here's a reprint. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35156 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Not that I'd ever be able to afford anything but the most budget of decks anyway because I don't want to shell out multiple hundreds on fetch/shocks | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 17 2017 00:36 Gahlo wrote: I'm just going to take a minute to say how much I hate Modern as a format. Stop making MTG expensive forever you fucks! Blame wotc for that. They the assholes that cave to garbage collectors and "mtgfinance" guys. On September 17 2017 00:52 WaveofShadow wrote: They've gotten way better with reprints; modern gets cheaper by a little with every masters set. I believe individual card prices for certain cards they reprint get cheaper but then the influx of new players makes the overall cost of format remain relatively the same or more expensive. At least that's what happened after the Gofy Master set. Not sure what the latest master sets have done. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
I think lately wotc has realized how inaccessible some of their formats are; you can actually see their shift in attitude with reprints being increasingly common in standard sets and mtg arena supposedly adopting the freemium model and future boosters possibly containing codes. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35156 Posts
On September 17 2017 00:52 WaveofShadow wrote: They've gotten way better with reprints; modern gets cheaper by a little with every masters set. Not that I'd ever be able to afford anything but the most budget of decks anyway because I don't want to shell out multiple hundreds on fetch/shocks I caught on to Faeries super ear(before Lorwyn was released) and made a deck. Then it "disappeared" on me, but by that time everything was stupidly priced so I couldn't rebuy it for anywhere near the previous cost, despite it being out of Standard for a while. Bitterblossom is still like $40/card and fuck that noise. I don't like Magic that much. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 17 2017 00:57 Gahlo wrote: I caught on to Faeries super ear(before Lorwyn was released) and made a deck. Then it "disappeared" on me, but by that time everything was stupidly priced so I couldn't rebuy it for anywhere near the previous cost, despite it being out of Standard for a while. Bitterblossom is still like $40/card and fuck that noise. I don't like Magic that much. Bitterblossom is purely a case of price memory/scarcity I think. Faeries is probably a T3 deck or something so there's really no good reason why it costs so much. I don't think that one is wotc's fault, it was already reprinted in MM2. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 17 2017 00:27 Jek wrote: All cards in your deck should be from the original set (and foil if they are that new) you pleb. Fuck art it's all about the bling. Beta basics look a lot better than Alpha ones. They're actually worth a similar amount but the colors they used to print the Beta cards with are a lot more vibrant. On September 17 2017 00:52 Numy wrote: I believe individual card prices for certain cards they reprint get cheaper but then the influx of new players makes the overall cost of format remain relatively the same or more expensive. At least that's what happened after the Gofy Master set. Not sure what the latest master sets have done. It tends to redistribute the cost a little bit. The average cost of buying into Modern stays about the same but it gets shifted away from a small handful of format-defining staples. So what that means is that people invested in the format aren't saving any money, but for a totally new player to the format, the buy-in cost is lower. On September 17 2017 01:07 WaveofShadow wrote: Bitterblossom is purely a case of price memory/scarcity I think. Faeries is probably a T3 deck or something so there's really no good reason why it costs so much. I don't think that one is wotc's fault, it was already reprinted in MM2. Yeah, Modern is not the reason Bitterblossom is expensive, more than it's overall scarcity. The card had one reprinting in MM15 and was mythic at that. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I don't think fetches have moved much here. Maybe a couple euros less on some. Ideally I'd have traded the Dark Ritual for some but the people who have them are keeping them (also they don't bling enough around here, they'd trade me my Blood Moon but wince when they see I only trade the foil one; same with Standard lands). Can't complain, I got a bunch of toys for EDH like painlands, Mystical Tutor, Chromatic Lantern, Cyclonic Rift, etc. for it, but he changed his mind on Abrupt Decay since he's only got a playset and Supreme Verdict (for cube reasons). The reprint sets work better on cards with few printings to begin with, like Damnation or Craterhoof (from 15 to 11-12€). Fetches are used way too much for the reprints to have much of an effect. Then for the "mtgfinance" aspect, the buyouts are "fair game" I suppose but still a ridiculous thing to do when they're speculating. There's a difference between being savvy (like people who bought their Torrential Gearhulks or Paradox Engines early) and buying the whole stock of a card to raise its value. Invocation Spell Pierce was actually around 38-40€ until half a week ago on MKM if you look at the graph, but somebody bought all of them under 55€ pretty much and suddenly inflated the price. I bet you most of the peudo-cradle preorders or buyouts early on will be people trying to ride the hype or drive its price up hoping it'll be featured. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On September 16 2017 19:16 Holyflare wrote: Singer song writer writes about an overarching theme of her life repeatedly, based on likely being groomed by a pedophile, and thus repeating same pattern of abuse she was subjected to into adulthood. Shocker. You say shocker as though this has ever happened in anything near mainstream music. Writers write about their trauma all the time; they dont jusy keep repeating it in every work they create, like some sort of sisyphusian nightmare. Hit me with one way this isn't a "shocker". Also to the above: see me in Dungeon Dice Monsters. It's just like Duel Monsters. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35156 Posts
On September 17 2017 01:19 Alaric wrote: Aren't you the one who was doing Dice Masters drafts with friends and did write-ups here, or am I confusing it? I don't think fetches have moved much here. Maybe a couple euros less on some. Ideally I'd have traded the Dark Ritual for some but the people who have them are keeping them (also they don't bling enough around here, they'd trade me my Blood Moon but wince when they see I only trade the foil one; same with Standard lands). Can't complain, I got a bunch of toys for EDH like painlands, Mystical Tutor, Chromatic Lantern, Cyclonic Rift, etc. for it, but he changed his mind on Abrupt Decay since he's only got a playset and Supreme Verdict (for cube reasons). The reprint sets work better on cards with few printings to begin with, like Damnation or Craterhoof (from 15 to 11-12€). Fetches are used way too much for the reprints to have much of an effect. Then for the "mtgfinance" aspect, the buyouts are "fair game" I suppose but still a ridiculous thing to do when they're speculating. There's a difference between being savvy (like people who bought their Torrential Gearhulks or Paradox Engines early) and buying the whole stock of a card to raise its value. Invocation Spell Pierce was actually around 38-40€ until half a week ago on MKM if you look at the graph, but somebody bought all of them under 55€ pretty much and suddenly inflated the price. I bet you most of the peudo-cradle preorders or buyouts early on will be people trying to ride the hype or drive its price up hoping it'll be featured. I was, but that stopped about a year ago. Besides, Dice Masters is incredibly cheaper than MTG. If you want a full playset of a card that costs $25 in MTG, you have to put down $100. If you want to have a full playset(Some cards are dice limited to 3, 2, or 1, but for parity I'm going to use 4) of a $25 card, you just buy one and 3 of the common versions since the dice are the same and you only need 1 card, landing you at $27 or less. A team is also made up of 10 cards, 2 of which come from starter decks so even the most expensive ones aren't even $4. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
here's my tournament report + Show Spoiler + 3 rounds draft, 5 rounds standard -> 3-5 rip standard | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On September 17 2017 01:20 GhandiEAGLE wrote: You say shocker as though this has ever happened in anything near mainstream music. Writers write about their trauma all the time; they dont jusy keep repeating it in every work they create, like some sort of sisyphusian nightmare. Hit me with one way this isn't a "shocker". Also to the above: see me in Dungeon Dice Monsters. It's just like Duel Monsters. I'm talking from a psychological standpoint that a victim of grooming and abuse is likely to be fixated on that for the rest of their life. Even if she wasn't abused it's still not particularly "genius". What is so magical about it? Why is it genius to repeat the same thing in every album though? And how do you know it's not that she's experienced the same thing over and over again? Even if it wasn't multiple experiences then it's just an overarching theme that she got fixated on when she achieved notoriety and she stuck to that formula. Just google concept albums or albums that tell a story. There's plenty. http://coheed.wikia.com/wiki/The_Amory_Wars Coheed and Cambria's entire discography is basically telling a whole story. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
Also, looking at her unreleased stuff, shed been doing this YEARS before she got notoriety. And if being a victim of abuse so logically results in this, then had no artist ever been abused? Because certainly none have ever done anything like this. And the comment about how maybe this just happened to her multiple times makes me wonder if you even read past the intro, because the depth and specificity of the relationship she describes pretty clearly shows it all as one relationship that happened. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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ruypture
United States367 Posts
On September 17 2017 00:57 Gahlo wrote: I caught on to Faeries super ear(before Lorwyn was released) and made a deck. Then it "disappeared" on me, but by that time everything was stupidly priced so I couldn't rebuy it for anywhere near the previous cost, despite it being out of Standard for a while. Bitterblossom is still like $40/card and fuck that noise. I don't like Magic that much. Yeah this is my problem even in standard. I was considering grabbing chandra torch for my pummeler deck's sideboard (just one or two copies) and I checked her price. 40 fucking dollars for a planeswalker that is run in like, two popular decks and pretty much just came out. It was the same thing for Lilli from Eldritch Moon, like fuck that shit. I understand 15-20 dollars for a really good card that is mythic rarity in standard, but anything more than that is fucking insane. No card besides Emrakul/Gideon Ally have been so busted in standard they deserved a 40 dollar price tag | ||
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