EPTOn June 27 2015 01:41 Gahlo wrote:
"civil union" instead of "marriage" is just couples apartheid.
"civil union" instead of "marriage" is just couples apartheid.
separate but equal is inherently unequal. see brown vs Board of education
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Karis Vas Ryaar
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separate but equal is inherently unequal. see brown vs Board of education | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On June 27 2015 01:58 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: separate but equal is inherently unequal. see brown vs Board of education I was just spewing ideas. I get in practice that won't really work as the 2nd part(Removal and merging) either doesn't happen or takes too long to happen. Still think a more important line of debate isn't gay marriage but marriage as a religious construct in the law. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On June 27 2015 01:58 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: separate but equal is inherently unequal. see brown vs Board of education Yes, that was the point of the post. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
I was just trying to show a US legal example. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On June 27 2015 02:04 Numy wrote: Gahlo's example helps me a lot more though, I have no idea what Brown vs Board of Education is :D. Guess for US people that are viewing the discussion it may not I didn't realise you were from south africa lol. Well I mean I know from this thread that you are but I didn't realise that it was you making the post if you get what I mean. I thought Brown versus board of education would make more sense to people than apartheid. but yeah their both examples of the same thing | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On June 27 2015 02:04 Numy wrote: Gahlo's example helps me a lot more though, I have no idea what Brown vs Board of Education is :D. Guess for US people that are viewing the discussion it may not Fucking. Lol. I completely overlooked that you're in SA. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On June 27 2015 01:58 Numy wrote: Sounds like a typical persecution complex? That's pretty sad if it's the case. My friend suggested to me earlier that people take religion as a piece of their identity so when they see a threat to it they take it as a threat to themselves. A depressing thought. I don't understand why this is a depressing thought. People make a whole host of things part of their identity. I've only had the opportunity to listen to NPR for about 15 minutes and chat with some friends who were disappointed. In my mind there's the covenant you actually care about (the marriage of a man and woman before God) and then there's the legal contract. I'm happy for the decision, I think it was the right thing for the government to do. Also, not mentioned yet is the concern that if a pastor of church does not want to perform a ceremony for a gay couple he/she will have her certification or whatever is stripped. Again, if you actually care about the covenant and not the legal status just do ceremonies as usual but send the couple to the courthouse for the legal part. However, it feels funny to me that a couple could just walk into a church and demand a ceremony and cause that kind of trouble. I'm guessing 95% of gay couples wouldn't do that and would be considerate but there's going to be those cases. I'm pretty sure a ton of churches don't do marriages for people not in their congregation and no one's claiming discrimination there that I know of. On June 27 2015 02:08 Gahlo wrote: Fucking. Lol. I completely overlooked that you're in SA. This is hilarious I thought it was intentional. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
ugh the whole use a different term for religious non religious unions bugs me so much. I cant imagine hearing my friends be disapointed in this. that would make me lose so much respect for them. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On June 27 2015 01:58 Numy wrote: Sounds like a typical persecution complex? That's pretty sad if it's the case. My friend suggested to me earlier that people take religion as a piece of their identity so when they see a threat to it they take it as a threat to themselves. A depressing thought. It's... not really that typical. Putting it into an easily digestible format is difficult, but the persecution complex of the religious right (particularly evangelicals) stems from a profound culture of fear. To oversimplify it, that brand of Christianity is inherently and deeply afraid of going to hell, and the only way to be sure they're safe is to be persecuted. It's important to point out that this is just one facet of Christianity (there are many others, such as the Presbyterian Church USA or the Episcopalian Church, on the left side of the political spectrum), but it's just a facet that's been given a voice in American politics because fear is a great way to boost voter turnout. | ||
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Scip
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WaveofShadow
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On June 27 2015 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote: It's so friggin hot. May as well be Toronto in July. At least some dudes in fur suits have made my child's dreams come true. This is actually pretty cool for this time of year. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On June 27 2015 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote: It's so friggin hot. May as well be Toronto in July. At least some dudes in fur suits have made my child's dreams come true. Your kid peaked already? Rough stuff. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 27 2015 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote: It's so friggin hot. May as well be Toronto in July. At least some dudes in fur suits have made my child's dreams come true. It's actually a lot cooler today than it was earlier in the week. | ||
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MoonBear
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 27 2015 03:04 MoonBear wrote: WTF GOBLIN PILEDRIVER REPRINT IN MAGIC ORIGINS?? You are the second person I know to comment on this now, lol. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On June 27 2015 03:04 MoonBear wrote: WTF GOBLIN PILEDRIVER REPRINT IN MAGIC ORIGINS?? I'm out of the meta, but how prevalent are goblin decks in standard/modern? | ||
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