On November 09 2013 07:06 Requizen wrote: I call Raynor. Still think he's one of the better developed characters despite the whole "oh I forgive Kerrigan now and forgot about Fenix" thing from WoL.
In Warcraft 3, Arthas was a fairly well-developed character arc, as well as Kael'thas'.
Kael's arc, from what I read, in BC however was just...absolutely disgusting. Feels more plausible that he was captured and replaced by a Kil'jaden demon, than that travesty.
On November 09 2013 07:07 ReketSomething wrote: My friend asked someone from blizzard why they named it hots and the blizzard friend said that they were hoping that people would call it Heroes which is why they named it that.
They have this bad habit of "oh, this is a bad guy now, he has to be a bad guy instead of a complex character". Anyone who Blizz labels as a Villain immediately grabs the idiot ball and runs with it.
On November 09 2013 07:04 Lord Tolkien wrote: 2) based on the description of the gameplay (short quick games, from what I can tell), I'm concerned about it's possible metagame depth.
man i remember we played games because we thought they were cool. wat is this metagame depth
On November 09 2013 07:11 Requizen wrote: They have this bad habit of "oh, this is a bad guy now, he has to be a bad guy instead of a complex character". Anyone who Blizz labels as a Villain immediately grabs the idiot ball and runs with it.
Also fuck Garrosh.
Yep. He went from "does morally ambiguous things to survive/keep his people alive" to "vaudeville mustache twirling (if Elves could grow those, anyways) villain out to destroy Azeroth with Demons, screw his people".
Arthas retained a great deal of complexity even in TFT, but in WoW? ...well, better than their other villains, at least. Like Illidan going straight-up insane and what not.
Also Garrosh is now apparently a <insert certain fascist dictator here>.
Please, all you young kids don't know the glory of Gharbad the Weak or Blackhand, Blizz better throw some nostalgia bombs in with Diablo 1 and Warcraft 1/2 heroes/villains.
On November 09 2013 07:50 red_ wrote: Please, all you young kids don't know the glory of Gharbad the Weak or Blackhand, Blizz better throw some nostalgia bombs in with Diablo 1 and Warcraft 1/2 heroes/villains.
On November 09 2013 07:06 Requizen wrote: I call Raynor. Still think he's one of the better developed characters despite the whole "oh I forgive Kerrigan now and forgot about Fenix" thing from WoL.
In Warcraft 3, Arthas was a fairly well-developed character arc, as well as Kael'thas'.
Kael's arc, from what I read, in BC however was just...absolutely disgusting. Feels more plausible that he was captured and replaced by a Kil'jaden demon, than that travesty.
I would never call Kael deep. He can be summarized as follows: my people need magic. You can give me magic? BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD.
Between him and Maiev Blizzard characters really freaking blew in TFT.
On November 09 2013 08:18 zer0das wrote: I would never call Kael deep. He can be summarized as follows: my people need magic. You can give me magic? BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD.
Between him and Maiev Blizzard characters really freaking blew in TFT.
Part of it yes. The other part is: well fk, I can join with these snakemen or get executed by a racist human lord. I wonder what I choose here.
The other part is basically after his options are exhausted (aka already stuck in Outland).
EPT
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