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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 18:36:40
May 18 2015 18:34 GMT
#100561
On May 19 2015 03:23 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 03:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 19 2015 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:49 Numy wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:19 Fildun wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:17 Scip wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:08 Fildun wrote:
On May 18 2015 22:52 Scip wrote:
[quote]
WEOW
I bet your test was easier
probably not
holy shit well done

Idk, I was really good at highschool math, had a 9.5-10 on most of those tests, but I sucked at the rest lol.
Like, I had a fuckin 5 for Dutch. That was kinda embarrassing.

who needs dutch when you can speak english?
Actually, were the tests you took published online? I'd be interested in the math test, to see what it was like.


It's all in Dutch, so not sure if you can read it, but here is a link: static.examenblad.nl


Looks approximately equivalent to Calc BC in the US + geometry, which is nice. I wish US schools kept up with geometry instead of just ditching it after like...9th grade or something. I liked geometry ;;


What is geometry even used for? I could never understand the purpose of it. It doesn't really teach any logical thinking or process as it just follows it's own little rules then when you get to university level stuff I haven't seen it around either. You just use vector calc to deal with basically any shape.


I wholeheartedly disagree.

I thought the same thing back in high school when I struggled with it in 9th grade. But after learning real proofs in Abstract, coming back to Geometry with that understanding helped a lot.

On May 18 2015 23:50 Alaric wrote:
Re: Wave

Timings are super important.


Case in point - messing up the timing of my Daisy Pusher is the difference between me getting a combo or you getting a combo.

On May 18 2015 23:40 Alaric wrote:

On May 18 2015 23:37 Frudgey wrote:
That, and I really struggled with the dragon punch input motion. I couldn't do it if my life depended on it.

One of the reasons I'm more comfortable with the keyboard too. That motion is much smoother because on a pad you have to release it to neutral position before you move it down. On the keyboard where you can use several fingers on the directional keys it's just a matter of key release timing (but for the same reason, half-circles are easier with a pad because it gets cramped on a keyboard ).


False. At least for SG, you do not have to reset to neutral for dragon punch motion. I just go forward-down-forward.

Not the same thing at all. You blind supering is not the same thing as trying to hit a 1-2 frame timing in order to continue a combo.


The fact that you think it is blind supering speaks volumes. Every time I catch you on an aerial approach is 100% reactionary (it's also really not hard because your default approach is jump back, air dash forward sex kick, rinse repeat - very easy to punish). When I catch you on a low kick, it is most often a hard read. Again, you're very predictable - you will often go for a low kick while I'm in recovery from a HK/HP. You're starting to change it up though, which is why you'll see me whiff a Daisy Pusher after you block.

I think the biggest thing you're struggling with right now is that I'm getting better at switching up my play to get past your defenses (which easily leads into a full combo) faster than you're able to adapt to my play. I'm also starting to learn a lot of the cool tricks she has. Which isn't to say Squiggles isn't bullshit - she's got so many options to adapt to the flow of play.

But yeah, I've been saying for a while that there are better ways to do her combo - I need more basic hits before silver chord because it scales my damage to all hell. I'm just not sure of the correct sequence of moves and stance cancels. Once I learn that, you'll be crying even more.

I must be at a portapotty convention because all I see is Johns


Wave has recently been hired as the President of the Sodium Chloride division at Johnson and Johnson.

On May 19 2015 03:26 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 03:23 Requizen wrote:
On May 19 2015 03:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 19 2015 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:49 Numy wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:19 Fildun wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:17 Scip wrote:
On May 18 2015 23:08 Fildun wrote:
[quote]
Idk, I was really good at highschool math, had a 9.5-10 on most of those tests, but I sucked at the rest lol.
Like, I had a fuckin 5 for Dutch. That was kinda embarrassing.

who needs dutch when you can speak english?
Actually, were the tests you took published online? I'd be interested in the math test, to see what it was like.


It's all in Dutch, so not sure if you can read it, but here is a link: static.examenblad.nl


Looks approximately equivalent to Calc BC in the US + geometry, which is nice. I wish US schools kept up with geometry instead of just ditching it after like...9th grade or something. I liked geometry ;;


What is geometry even used for? I could never understand the purpose of it. It doesn't really teach any logical thinking or process as it just follows it's own little rules then when you get to university level stuff I haven't seen it around either. You just use vector calc to deal with basically any shape.


I wholeheartedly disagree.

I thought the same thing back in high school when I struggled with it in 9th grade. But after learning real proofs in Abstract, coming back to Geometry with that understanding helped a lot.

On May 18 2015 23:50 Alaric wrote:
Re: Wave

Timings are super important.


Case in point - messing up the timing of my Daisy Pusher is the difference between me getting a combo or you getting a combo.

On May 18 2015 23:40 Alaric wrote:

On May 18 2015 23:37 Frudgey wrote:
That, and I really struggled with the dragon punch input motion. I couldn't do it if my life depended on it.

One of the reasons I'm more comfortable with the keyboard too. That motion is much smoother because on a pad you have to release it to neutral position before you move it down. On the keyboard where you can use several fingers on the directional keys it's just a matter of key release timing (but for the same reason, half-circles are easier with a pad because it gets cramped on a keyboard ).


False. At least for SG, you do not have to reset to neutral for dragon punch motion. I just go forward-down-forward.

Not the same thing at all. You blind supering is not the same thing as trying to hit a 1-2 frame timing in order to continue a combo.


The fact that you think it is blind supering speaks volumes. Every time I catch you on an aerial approach is 100% reactionary (it's also really not hard because your default approach is jump back, air dash forward sex kick, rinse repeat - very easy to punish). When I catch you on a low kick, it is most often a hard read. Again, you're very predictable - you will often go for a low kick while I'm in recovery from a HK/HP. You're starting to change it up though, which is why you'll see me whiff a Daisy Pusher after you block.

I think the biggest thing you're struggling with right now is that I'm getting better at switching up my play to get past your defenses (which easily leads into a full combo) faster than you're able to adapt to my play. I'm also starting to learn a lot of the cool tricks she has. Which isn't to say Squiggles isn't bullshit - she's got so many options to adapt to the flow of play.

But yeah, I've been saying for a while that there are better ways to do her combo - I need more basic hits before silver chord because it scales my damage to all hell. I'm just not sure of the correct sequence of moves and stance cancels. Once I learn that, you'll be crying even more.

I must be at a portapotty convention because all I see is Johns

HAH


In my (now somewhat well-rounded) experience, I found the ACT to be far easier and more accomadating than the SAT. However, I took the ACT in a nice, air conditioned room at the UW in 7th grade, and I took the SAT in a flaming heat-box of a classroom at South Seattle Community College about 3-4 weeks ago, so I don't know how much I can tell.


ACT was easier for me than SAT because SAT was 4 sections of different subjects. SAT was just math english math english english math for way too fucking long. I got so bored by the end.

On May 19 2015 03:21 Frudgey wrote:
Soniv you're sure posting a lot of long detailed posts for someone who is supposedly at work.

If I did that at my job I'd be fired in seconds.


=D

It would be an issue if I wasn't getting my shit done. I'm just that efficient

or something
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 18:36:52
May 18 2015 18:36 GMT
#100562
We spoke about graduate/professional admissions on galk before. I think that makes even less sense than exams in schooling. You are trying to equate years worth of knowledge into 8 hour wins(Or is it 12 generally for bar?). Not only that but the method of your testing their aptitude is completely removed from how a persons ability would actually be tested in practice.
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
May 18 2015 18:37 GMT
#100563
Numy explain to me why you think tests can still be useful. I'm not attacking you, but it's just that I don't see a world in which we need tests. (Okay I can think of a couple of examples but I want to see what you say).

I'd love to hear your opinion. (Assuming that I didn't misunderstand you of course!)
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 18:39:22
May 18 2015 18:38 GMT
#100564
I don't think testing is ideal, but considering real world restrictions (time required for assessment, etc etc) it does a good enough job that anyone who's competent can get past the testing phase. The argument that "testing limits people" only applies to borderline cases where the person is barely competent enough to be in that field and thus "testing aptitude" actually plays a role in whether or not they "pass".
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 18 2015 18:38 GMT
#100565
On May 19 2015 03:36 Numy wrote:
We spoke about graduate/professional admissions on galk before. I think that makes even less sense than exams in schooling. You are trying to equate years worth of knowledge into 8 hour wins(Or is it 12 generally for bar?). Not only that but the method of your testing aptitude is completely removed from how a persons ability would actually be used in practice.

Nobody actually uses the exams that way for school admissions though, so that's not a problem.

Really the purpose of those exams isn't to actually test your knowledge/what you learned, but to act as a normalization factor for your coursework as a whole when different schools assess grading/content very differently (which results in the possibility of two students with similar coursework actually having widely different levels of aptitude thanks to the difficulty of the courses they took/how they were assessed).
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
May 18 2015 18:39 GMT
#100566
On May 19 2015 03:36 Numy wrote:
We spoke about graduate/professional admissions on galk before. I think that makes even less sense than exams in schooling. You are trying to equate years worth of knowledge into 8 hour wins(Or is it 12 generally for bar?). Not only that but the method of your testing their aptitude is completely removed from how a persons ability would actually be tested in practice.


Graduate school exams tend to be more specialized, and test factual knowledge instead of some vague metric of "logical thinking "and "aptitude."
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 18:40:31
May 18 2015 18:40 GMT
#100567
On May 19 2015 03:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 03:36 Numy wrote:
We spoke about graduate/professional admissions on galk before. I think that makes even less sense than exams in schooling. You are trying to equate years worth of knowledge into 8 hour wins(Or is it 12 generally for bar?). Not only that but the method of your testing aptitude is completely removed from how a persons ability would actually be used in practice.

Nobody actually uses the exams that way for school admissions though, so that's not a problem.

Really the purpose of those exams isn't to actually test your knowledge/what you learned, but to act as a normalization factor for your coursework as a whole when different schools assess grading/content very differently (which results in the possibility of two students with similar coursework actually having widely different levels of aptitude thanks to the difficulty of the courses they took/how they were assessed).

Pretty sure that's exactly how exams works for school admission (and some company admissions process) in Asian countries though.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 18 2015 18:42 GMT
#100568
On May 19 2015 03:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Pretty sure that's exactly how exams works for school admission (and some company admissions process) in Asian countries though.

Well yeah, but exams in Asian countries have vastly different formats and coverage than any of the exams you discussed.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2015 18:45 GMT
#100569
On May 19 2015 03:42 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 03:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Pretty sure that's exactly how exams works for school admission (and some company admissions process) in Asian countries though.

Well yeah, but exams in Asian countries have vastly different formats and coverage than any of the exams you discussed.

fair enough. I was assuming Numy was talking about generalities.
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 18:47:09
May 18 2015 18:46 GMT
#100570
Can we talk about Asian privilege in unis or is that a banned topic?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2015 18:47 GMT
#100571
On May 19 2015 03:46 Eppa! wrote:
Can we talk about Asian privilege in unis or is that a banned topic?

You mean lack of privilege?
Affirmative Action is for minorities (that aren't asian)
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 18 2015 18:49 GMT
#100572
is affirmative action an effective policy at all?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 18:54:29
May 18 2015 18:50 GMT
#100573
On May 19 2015 03:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 03:36 Numy wrote:
We spoke about graduate/professional admissions on galk before. I think that makes even less sense than exams in schooling. You are trying to equate years worth of knowledge into 8 hour wins(Or is it 12 generally for bar?). Not only that but the method of your testing their aptitude is completely removed from how a persons ability would actually be tested in practice.


Graduate school exams tend to be more specialized, and test factual knowledge instead of some vague metric of "logical thinking "and "aptitude."


I think there's a misunderstanding of what i mean by aptitude. Let's go back to that mass transfers paragraph I was talking about since it's fresh on my mind. Generally an exam paper will be split into 4 questions of 3 or so hours each testing different areas of knowledge. So say one question will be testing your use of Fick's first law, another will deal with a multi component systems and maybe a third with transient. Each question is designed to test that knowledge. Now when you come to deal with a real world problem it won't be specifically designed to do that. It'll just be a problem in a system you now have to figure out what to do with it. The exam is testing where you can apply the knowledge within the scope of the exam which doesn't test if you can apply the knowledge within the scope of an actual problem. So your "aptitude" in the material may not be as high/low/average as what an exam in the material says.

On May 19 2015 03:37 Frudgey wrote:
Numy explain to me why you think tests can still be useful. I'm not attacking you, but it's just that I don't see a world in which we need tests. (Okay I can think of a couple of examples but I want to see what you say).

I'd love to hear your opinion. (Assuming that I didn't misunderstand you of course!)


I'm not that sure. I assume some kind of mass memorizing would work well with traditional testing. That's not the kind of thing I know a lot about so I'm weary of saying if they do or don't work there.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2015 18:52 GMT
#100574
On May 19 2015 03:49 Scip wrote:
is affirmative action an effective policy at all?

Heh, there's a reason why UC System became one of the best university school systems after the removal of affirmative action :D
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 18 2015 18:54 GMT
#100575
lmao Asian privilege at universities

good joke
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 18 2015 18:54 GMT
#100576
Req,

Some of these 40k armies are less expensive than standard decks be played with for a single ptq. This hobby seems to be cheaper in the long run, but much more expensive on start up.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 18 2015 18:54 GMT
#100577
I am sure this thread will have a well reasoned and informed conversation about affirmative action
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2015 18:58 GMT
#100578
On May 19 2015 03:54 eieio wrote:
I am sure this thread will have a well reasoned and informed conversation about affirmative action

https://www.aamc.org/download/321514/data/factstable25-2.pdf
https://www.aamc.org/download/321516/data/factstable25-3.pdf
https://www.aamc.org/download/321518/data/factstable25-4.pdf
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 19:19:16
May 18 2015 19:06 GMT
#100579
Sometimes I wonder why wei responds to shitty posts. I am also not sure of how many of my sarcastic comments get picked up.
On May 19 2015 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 03:54 eieio wrote:
I am sure this thread will have a well reasoned and informed conversation about affirmative action

https://www.aamc.org/download/321514/data/factstable25-2.pdf
https://www.aamc.org/download/321516/data/factstable25-3.pdf
https://www.aamc.org/download/321518/data/factstable25-4.pdf
3muchprivlege5me

2 bait 5 me
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2015 19:08 GMT
#100580
On May 19 2015 04:06 Eppa! wrote:
Sometimes I wonder why wei responds to shitty posts. I am also not sure of how many of my sarcastic comments get picked up.

i probably should have quoted
On May 19 2015 03:54 TheYango wrote:
lmao Asian privilege at universities

good joke

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