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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 23 2013 20:31 GMT
#7441
On October 24 2013 05:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 04:44 Roffles wrote:
On October 24 2013 04:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 24 2013 04:24 cLutZ wrote:
Is blizzard punishing me with no Hearthstone Keys because I stopped subbing to WOW? Because that is the only explanation I see.


My Blizz acct has been hacked several times and I haven't played WoW in years.

You just haven't sacrificed the proper animals.

Must I finally resort to sacrificing the eagle?

Dear beta key gods, I will sacrifice GhandiEagle in addition to my previously sacrificed wolf, sheep, panda, horsey, and bear.

ROFFLES

I TRUSTED U

I will now have sacrificed 6 animals. I hope the gods are pleased.
God Bless
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 23 2013 20:31 GMT
#7442
On October 24 2013 05:18 Cixah wrote:
That feel when Trump has your Paladin deck labeled as "Obvious Blizzcon Deck."

Not sure if troll.


He's probably watching you right now, waiting on your next brilliant HS play.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 23 2013 20:35 GMT
#7443
See, shit like what Req said today is why I can't ever trust his taste in anything ever. That and the KPOP.
Tidus is a strong character lol (I DID like FFX for the record, but good lord character development in the game....ugh).
Chrono Trigger sucked....lol.
Like...even without the rose-coloured glasses that game was really fucking good. Soundtrack was fucking amazing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 23 2013 20:36 GMT
#7444
On October 24 2013 05:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
See, shit like what Req said today is why I can't ever trust his taste in anything ever. That and the KPOP.
Tidus is a strong character lol (I DID like FFX for the record, but good lord character development in the game....ugh).
Chrono Trigger sucked....lol.
Like...even without the rose-coloured glasses that game was really fucking good. Soundtrack was fucking amazing.

But really though, it's the Kpop.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
October 23 2013 20:37 GMT
#7445
I couldn't make it through Chrono Trigger, but I have basically no patience for JRPGs. Except for Golden Sun for some reason.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 23 2013 20:40 GMT
#7446
On October 24 2013 05:37 Tooplark wrote:
I couldn't make it through Chrono Trigger, but I have basically no patience for JRPGs. Except for Golden Sun for some reason.

Golden Sun's Mechanics were new and interesting, but the story wasn't really. Very good games (if you discount DD, cause fuck that one), but yeah I'm not sure why your exception is GS.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 23 2013 20:43 GMT
#7447
Chrono Trigger's combat got boring once you realized which abilities sucked and which ones were good. There was also about 0 character development for anyone in the story other than maybe Frog, the extent of it was "hey we're time travelers, do you want to be a time traveler too? We're the only ones who can save the world in the future/past/whitespace for some half-explained reason!"

Time hopping is a decent concept, but you just kind of showed up, killed a monster, and maybe got a new teammate. Rinse and repeat.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 23 2013 20:45 GMT
#7448
On October 24 2013 05:43 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger's combat got boring once you realized which abilities sucked and which ones were good. There was also about 0 character development for anyone in the story other than maybe Frog, the extent of it was "hey we're time travelers, do you want to be a time traveler too? We're the only ones who can save the world in the future/past/whitespace for some half-explained reason!"

Time hopping is a decent concept, but you just kind of showed up, killed a monster, and maybe got a new teammate. Rinse and repeat.

Are you kidding me?
Half of the interesting character development in the story revolved around the city of Zeal and Magus. The optional sidequests at the end of the game added interesting character development for basically EVERY character.

Schala was kind of odd in that we didn't get enough exposure to her really so I never found out why we were supposed to care about her so much.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 20:48:57
October 23 2013 20:47 GMT
#7449
Did anyone ever play Suikkoden or .hack?

I don't know what was in the one cup of coffee I had from Starbucks but its got me running about 50% higher than usual.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 23 2013 20:47 GMT
#7450
On October 24 2013 05:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 05:43 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger's combat got boring once you realized which abilities sucked and which ones were good. There was also about 0 character development for anyone in the story other than maybe Frog, the extent of it was "hey we're time travelers, do you want to be a time traveler too? We're the only ones who can save the world in the future/past/whitespace for some half-explained reason!"

Time hopping is a decent concept, but you just kind of showed up, killed a monster, and maybe got a new teammate. Rinse and repeat.

Are you kidding me?
Half of the interesting character development in the story revolved around the city of Zeal and Magus. The optional sidequests at the end of the game added interesting character development for basically EVERY character.

Schala was kind of odd in that we didn't get enough exposure to her really so I never found out why we were supposed to care about her so much.

I was in Zeal for like all of 15 minutes before a vizier or something tried to kill me. I don't really remember, maybe I quit before all the character development took place? I got as far as Chrono dying/coming back and the fight with Magus (maybe not in that order) and the entire game was just "find new time zone, get backstory on new teammate, new teammate get, find portal". Not particularly interesting character backstories either.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 23 2013 20:54 GMT
#7451
On October 24 2013 05:47 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 05:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 24 2013 05:43 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger's combat got boring once you realized which abilities sucked and which ones were good. There was also about 0 character development for anyone in the story other than maybe Frog, the extent of it was "hey we're time travelers, do you want to be a time traveler too? We're the only ones who can save the world in the future/past/whitespace for some half-explained reason!"

Time hopping is a decent concept, but you just kind of showed up, killed a monster, and maybe got a new teammate. Rinse and repeat.

Are you kidding me?
Half of the interesting character development in the story revolved around the city of Zeal and Magus. The optional sidequests at the end of the game added interesting character development for basically EVERY character.

Schala was kind of odd in that we didn't get enough exposure to her really so I never found out why we were supposed to care about her so much.

I was in Zeal for like all of 15 minutes before a vizier or something tried to kill me. I don't really remember, maybe I quit before all the character development took place? I got as far as Chrono dying/coming back and the fight with Magus (maybe not in that order) and the entire game was just "find new time zone, get backstory on new teammate, new teammate get, find portal". Not particularly interesting character backstories either.

lol Chrono coming back is like the end of the game. I don't even know how to argue this one with you because I find your tastes just so fucking weird---I don't understand how you don't think the plot/character development is interesting.

I'm sure I could find a game you like very cliched as well, considering most are, but that wouldn't necessarily make it a bad game (also considering we don't seem to have played many of the same games, I don't even know that I could come up with an example.)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
October 23 2013 21:04 GMT
#7452
i think i have more coke than blood in my body tbh

its always annoying when you get some blood in your cokestream...
TranslatorBaa!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 23 2013 21:05 GMT
#7453
On October 24 2013 05:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 05:47 Requizen wrote:
On October 24 2013 05:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 24 2013 05:43 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger's combat got boring once you realized which abilities sucked and which ones were good. There was also about 0 character development for anyone in the story other than maybe Frog, the extent of it was "hey we're time travelers, do you want to be a time traveler too? We're the only ones who can save the world in the future/past/whitespace for some half-explained reason!"

Time hopping is a decent concept, but you just kind of showed up, killed a monster, and maybe got a new teammate. Rinse and repeat.

Are you kidding me?
Half of the interesting character development in the story revolved around the city of Zeal and Magus. The optional sidequests at the end of the game added interesting character development for basically EVERY character.

Schala was kind of odd in that we didn't get enough exposure to her really so I never found out why we were supposed to care about her so much.

I was in Zeal for like all of 15 minutes before a vizier or something tried to kill me. I don't really remember, maybe I quit before all the character development took place? I got as far as Chrono dying/coming back and the fight with Magus (maybe not in that order) and the entire game was just "find new time zone, get backstory on new teammate, new teammate get, find portal". Not particularly interesting character backstories either.

lol Chrono coming back is like the end of the game. I don't even know how to argue this one with you because I find your tastes just so fucking weird---I don't understand how you don't think the plot/character development is interesting.

I'm sure I could find a game you like very cliched as well, considering most are, but that wouldn't necessarily make it a bad game (also considering we don't seem to have played many of the same games, I don't even know that I could come up with an example.)

What character development was there? I agree that Frog had a decent amount, sure, and his story with Magus was cool, but it was so sparse and spread out that it couldn't really carry the game.

Chrono obviously gets 0, being a silent protagonist, Lucca gets almost as little, Marle gets a rather generic "runaway princess" arc and then becomes a flirty love interest. Robo is literally a robot you picked up, with a single scene in which he fights his former comrades.

Ayla's arc was kinda fun, but mostly just because she's the most fun PC in the game. I don't even remember any NPCs, they came and went so fast.
It's your boy Guzma!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 23 2013 21:06 GMT
#7454
I would have liked Tidus better if the voice acting wasn't dumpster tier bad
Bronze player stuck in platinum
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 23 2013 21:15 GMT
#7455
On October 24 2013 06:06 Nos- wrote:
I would have liked Tidus better if the voice acting wasn't dumpster tier bad


This. The sound of him laughing will haunt my nightmares for the rest of my life.
SUNSFANNED
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 23 2013 21:16 GMT
#7456
Suikoden was awesome.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 23 2013 21:19 GMT
#7457
On October 24 2013 06:05 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 05:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 24 2013 05:47 Requizen wrote:
On October 24 2013 05:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 24 2013 05:43 Requizen wrote:
Chrono Trigger's combat got boring once you realized which abilities sucked and which ones were good. There was also about 0 character development for anyone in the story other than maybe Frog, the extent of it was "hey we're time travelers, do you want to be a time traveler too? We're the only ones who can save the world in the future/past/whitespace for some half-explained reason!"

Time hopping is a decent concept, but you just kind of showed up, killed a monster, and maybe got a new teammate. Rinse and repeat.

Are you kidding me?
Half of the interesting character development in the story revolved around the city of Zeal and Magus. The optional sidequests at the end of the game added interesting character development for basically EVERY character.

Schala was kind of odd in that we didn't get enough exposure to her really so I never found out why we were supposed to care about her so much.

I was in Zeal for like all of 15 minutes before a vizier or something tried to kill me. I don't really remember, maybe I quit before all the character development took place? I got as far as Chrono dying/coming back and the fight with Magus (maybe not in that order) and the entire game was just "find new time zone, get backstory on new teammate, new teammate get, find portal". Not particularly interesting character backstories either.

lol Chrono coming back is like the end of the game. I don't even know how to argue this one with you because I find your tastes just so fucking weird---I don't understand how you don't think the plot/character development is interesting.

I'm sure I could find a game you like very cliched as well, considering most are, but that wouldn't necessarily make it a bad game (also considering we don't seem to have played many of the same games, I don't even know that I could come up with an example.)

What character development was there? I agree that Frog had a decent amount, sure, and his story with Magus was cool, but it was so sparse and spread out that it couldn't really carry the game.

Chrono obviously gets 0, being a silent protagonist, Lucca gets almost as little, Marle gets a rather generic "runaway princess" arc and then becomes a flirty love interest. Robo is literally a robot you picked up, with a single scene in which he fights his former comrades.

Ayla's arc was kinda fun, but mostly just because she's the most fun PC in the game. I don't even remember any NPCs, they came and went so fast.

I've already said, Magus's entire character development was probably the best in the game. You get to see him as a fucking child while he's manipulating his whole family from behind the scenes as an adult at the same fucking time. He tries to summon the fucking being that's out to destroy all space and time SO HE CAN 1V1 IT BECAUSE IT TOOK HIS SISTER.

Robo's character development is actually somewhat decent in 'Part 2' and learning the back story of how he fits in post-'end-of the-world' is great.

Yeah Crono Lucca and Marle's stories are meh, but that fucking scene where you go back in time to help Lucca's Mom? Holy shit. She gets points on that alone.

I really think you're just blinded here by your dislike of the game. Which is fine, but to say that the game is objectively bad is just not true imo.

Read this for a good perspective imo.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=285324
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 23 2013 21:26 GMT
#7458
Oh and I'll make it clear---I don't think Chrono Trigger is 'DA BEST GAEM OF ALL TIMEZ.'
It's not even my favourite RPG. I just think it's a very good game.

My top RPG probably goes to Shining Force 2.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 23 2013 21:30 GMT
#7459
Me an' Tidus, we gonna go do a little explorin' today!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 23 2013 21:33 GMT
#7460
It's not a bad game, it's just dull. It's a quintessential JRPG, so that means random encounters, turn based system, lots of walking around world map doing nothing until you find the next plot point. Magus I've admitted is cool (and Frog by extension, though I'm a sucker for "paladin" type characters), but cool enough to carry the whole game? Not really.

I never played it on the SNES, so when I got the DS version and heard all the hype I was expecting a great game, or at least a good one that would have been great for it's time, but it's really just kinda generic. Standard characters are fine (I noted this in my mini-dissertation on KS and ASoIaF), but they never really grow out of standard. A couple cool scenes does not a great character make. I could tell the arc of everyone except Ayla from the moment we met, and there were literally 0 curve balls aside from Magus's past. And I'm spoiled on awesome bad guys, so even that doesn't really stand out to me.

I'd never recommend against playing it, but I just really, really don't get the hype of people saying it's the "end all be all best RPG ever". From what you've said I'm apparently 99% through the game, and none of the characters or plot twists wowed me overly much. Maybe they do in the after game stuff, but I shouldn't need to finish the game to get the bulk of the plot.

Chrono coming back from the dead and seeing his friends all emotional would have been more moving for me if they were more than cardboard cutouts. I dunno, this just really feels like a nostalgia goggles game to me.
It's your boy Guzma!
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