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caelym
United States6430 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:19 caelym wrote: I can see SC2 dying out in the next 2 or 3 years and TL becomes Hearthstone central. Our little OT thread can probably outlast the LoL subforum. I see you are an optimist, sir. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:30 wei2coolman wrote: In the year 2033, LoL has grown to be the biggest esports title of all time. TL still refuses to cover LoL, and LoL still uses adobe air client. Probably won't take that long... Edit: Obv talking about the former. Also, I wonder how many of you who bitch about Adobe Air are actually coders and how many of you just whine because you see other people complain about Adobe Air too. I mean srsly. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote: Probably won't take that long... Edit: Obv talking about the former. Also, I wonder how many of you who bitch about Adobe Air are actually coders and how many of you just whine because you see other people complain about Adobe Air too. I mean srsly. I mean, have you used DotA 2's out-game client? That thing is beautiful. LoL's client seems so crappy in comparison. Though, one thing I do like about LoL client, is that outside game, it's just a window, as opposed to full screen. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:39 wei2coolman wrote: I mean, have you used DotA 2's out-game client? That thing is beautiful. LoL's client seems so crappy in comparison. Though, one thing I do like about LoL client, is that outside game, it's just a window, as opposed to full screen. Adobe AIR is extremely powerful for launching things with minimal infrastructure. It would be almost impossible to get the league store, among other content, running without AIR given the fact that League was built ground up. DotA 2 was built top down took ages and probably cost a ton of money (which they had). At this point, yea, the limitations of AIR kind of suck and the benefits of it aren't really that useful since League isn't some Web 2.0 startup trying to fast track an integrated platform, but the costs of rebuilding the client almost certainly outweigh the benefits. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:32 NeoIllusions wrote: Probably won't take that long... Edit: Obv talking about the former. Also, I wonder how many of you who bitch about Adobe Air are actually coders and how many of you just whine because you see other people complain about Adobe Air too. I mean srsly. The alternative is whining about Riot, and it gets seriously tiring to always whine about the same thing. Surely, even the SC2 community gets tired of whining about blizzard at SOME point! | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:43 xes wrote: Adobe AIR is extremely powerful for launching things with minimal infrastructure. It would be almost impossible to get the league store, among other content, running without AIR given the fact that League was built ground up. DotA 2 was built top down took ages and probably cost a ton of money (which they had). At this point, yea, the limitations of AIR kind of suck and the benefits of it aren't really that useful since League isn't some Web 2.0 startup trying to fast track an integrated platform, but the costs of rebuilding the client almost certainly outweigh the benefits. Oh, I don't disagree with how Adobe Air came to be the choice of launching LoL client, but it's about time they started thinking about implementing something different. IIRC they have a contract with a company that does all the Adobe Air work? so thats why they're still using it. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:56 Nos- wrote: programming is pretty much black voodoo magic, you think you know something and how it works and then it's like nah, let me just break everything else seemingly unrelated because I changed the the 5 to a 10 If you fix a line of code and you get 13 more errors, you're doing it right. But seriously, from a software engineering perspective, rewriting the whole thing isn't impossible by any stretch of the imagination. It's just... awkward. Too many variables to think about, starting from scratch is almost never a good idea even if the platform is more or less trash. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:54 MoonBear wrote: Trying to rewrite your entire interface is what killed Netscape. It's very easy to understate how significant of an investment it is, and how many things can go wrong. I don't think anything was going to save netscape, with or without new interface. On October 23 2013 04:01 TheYango wrote: One thing I'm curious about is why Riot didn't make the store web-based from the start. I would imagine that people being able to buy skins from their browser and not having to log into the client could have made them a buck here and there. security issues? web server hosting more expensive? I dunno. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 23 2013 04:01 wei2coolman wrote: I don't think anything was going to save netscape, with or without new interface. security issues? Browsers are just as secure as clients, other than people having viruses and shit. I can't really think of a reason either. They could likely show off a full profile in client (a-la WoW Armory or SC2), but they're likely focusing on other things. Maybe if they hired more software developers.......  | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 23 2013 04:04 Requizen wrote: Browsers are just as secure as clients, other than people having viruses and shit. I can't really think of a reason either. They could likely show off a full profile in client (a-la WoW Armory or SC2), but they're likely focusing on other things. Maybe if they hired more software developers*....... *that spent more time developing, and less time posting in TL | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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caelym
United States6430 Posts
On October 23 2013 03:56 Nos- wrote: programming is pretty much black voodoo magic, you think you know something and how it works and then it's like nah, let me just break everything else seemingly unrelated because I changed the the 5 to a 10 yup. been programming on and off for 8 years now and still don't know how and why shit works. One can only hope that parts of Riot's code are self-contained and can be ported over to a new client. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
edit: I've also had problems arise for like a week then disappear without a trace with 0 code changes. That's like the most frustrating *spider gone out of sight* thing to happen, cause you don't know what broke in the first place and you can't reproduce it | ||
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