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On April 04 2014 03:24 zer0das wrote: You have to reach sector 8 with the type B layouts to get the type C layouts. Hard mode just makes scrap rewards lower than normal. The Lanius are in "abandoned" sectors- I've been to one, it wasn't pretty (mind control on your crew sucks xD). Also the Lanius cruiser is unlocked by default.
Do you know if that applies retroactively? I've beat the game with every ship.
I wonder if Hard Mode with the trash tier ships is even do-able, on Normal you already need a lot of luck.
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I don't think it applies retroactively. I've reached sector 8 with about half the type B ships, and I don't have any type C layouts unlocked.
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On April 04 2014 03:27 Requizen wrote: what does that even mean ice climber guy that popularized the chain grab
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Meh, Monmusu had some nice stuff in part 3 but it was mostly a big letdown, which I entirely expected seeing how the 2nd part ended. Also I wouldn't have enjoyed it without a background in TVTropes exploration, so it's a no-no for most people anyway. :<
On April 04 2014 03:31 Nos- wrote:ice climber guy that popularized the chain grab Watching a highlight video of it was hype as fuck. Having it too present in the scene would probably end up being boring though.
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On April 04 2014 03:31 Nos- wrote:ice climber guy that popularized the chain grab
"Chain grab" isn't fully accurate.
Wobbling is a tactic with ice climbers where you can grab someone with Popo, and input actions in such a way that Popo and Nana alternate their attacks so as to infinitely hitstun you so you can't break out of the grab, and then throw/smash at the same time, killing you.
Basically, if you get grabbed by an IC player who can wobble, it's 0-death
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On April 04 2014 03:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 03:20 zer0das wrote: I was playing Faster Than Light Advanced Edition. Was plodding along nicely on hard in Mantis Cruiser B, then in sector 4 or 5, a random ship had two beam drones and an ion gun. Went from nearly 100% hull no damage, to like every last system on fire and dead within about 3 seconds. I'm not even sure if it was the ion gun that caused the problems, because it felt like something else knocked out everything temporarily, and then booooom.
I thought I was going to make it to sector 8 with that ship too. -.-
I really should play this game.
It's really fun.
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Wobbling isn't a chain grab, it's a single grab that gets handed off between the two ICs until they throw you out and kill you.
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I noticed grabs sometimes seemed to last longer last time I watched a tourney... how does it work? Do you grab people, and then you have inputs for hitting them, and inputs for "releasing" (throwing) them, and you try to hit as much as possible then throw before they break out?
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Is there a ssbm forum and I'm blind? Got it, why is this stuff never obvious?
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On April 04 2014 03:39 Alaric wrote: I noticed grabs sometimes seemed to last longer last time I watched a tourney... how does it work? Do you grab people, and then you have inputs for hitting them, and inputs for "releasing" (throwing) them, and you try to hit as much as possible then throw before they break out?
If someone is grabbed, they can button mash to break out (I think it's button mash, I've never actually had this affirmed or looked myself). At higher %s, the grab naturally lasts longer and can't be broken out of as easily.
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On April 04 2014 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 03:39 Alaric wrote: I noticed grabs sometimes seemed to last longer last time I watched a tourney... how does it work? Do you grab people, and then you have inputs for hitting them, and inputs for "releasing" (throwing) them, and you try to hit as much as possible then throw before they break out? If someone is grabbed, they can button mash to break out (I think it's button mash, I've never actually had this affirmed or looked myself). At higher %s, the grab naturally lasts longer and can't be broken out of as easily.
I mash everything, stick ABXYRL everything. Works well enough early but I don't know for sure either way.
GL Tonight Soniv. Post the stream here so I can watch from work plz
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What post did wei get banned for?
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Any inputs when you're grabbed reduces the grab duration by a certain amount, moving the movement stick around counts as multiple inputs, so the fastest way to get out of a grab is to move the stick around while mashing buttons as fast as you can on the right side, but it's risky cause you might accidentally DI in a poor direction.
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On April 04 2014 03:48 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:On April 04 2014 03:39 Alaric wrote: I noticed grabs sometimes seemed to last longer last time I watched a tourney... how does it work? Do you grab people, and then you have inputs for hitting them, and inputs for "releasing" (throwing) them, and you try to hit as much as possible then throw before they break out? If someone is grabbed, they can button mash to break out (I think it's button mash, I've never actually had this affirmed or looked myself). At higher %s, the grab naturally lasts longer and can't be broken out of as easily. I mash everything, stick ABXYRL everything. Works well enough early but I don't know for sure either way. GL Tonight Soniv. Post the stream here so I can watch from work plz 
I avoid R and L cuz if you continue mashing a split second after you're released you air dodge and it makes it easy to follow up on you if you fuck up.
And the stream will be the Game Underground stream, hopefully someone else can/will post it cuz I'll be on my phone and cell down there sucks.
On April 04 2014 03:51 Requizen wrote: What post did wei get banned for?
posting like shit
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Lol the LR thread is true cancer
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United States23745 Posts
Brings out the worst in people sometimes :/
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Lol the LR thread is true cancer
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On April 04 2014 03:30 zer0das wrote: I don't think it applies retroactively. I've reached sector 8 with about half the type B ships, and I don't have any type C layouts unlocked.
Confirmed to not work retroactively. I've beaten the game with every ship and every layout and I don't have any C type ships.
Ugh, I REALLY don't want to play stealth cruiser B and zoltan B again, those gave me nightmares.
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On April 04 2014 04:01 phyvo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 03:30 zer0das wrote: I don't think it applies retroactively. I've reached sector 8 with about half the type B ships, and I don't have any type C layouts unlocked. Confirmed to not work retroactively. I've beaten the game with every ship and every layout and I don't have any C type ships. Ugh, I REALLY don't want to play stealth cruiser B and zoltan B again, those gave me nightmares.
WTF Zoltan B is one of the best ships in the game. Never take damage in early sectors because of your OP as fuck Zoltan Shield, plus a weapon layout that's very adaptable and works with anything you find.
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