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On March 06 2014 04:05 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 04:04 TheYango wrote:On March 06 2014 03:59 onlywonderboy wrote:
lol it's like a shitty iPhone game simulator. I'm surprised you can't pay to upgrade buildings faster. (I know you can buy sleep potions or whatever) Because that would discourage you from making more friends. Huh?
because bravely default makes fun of you
http://i.imgur.com/TDnYDsw.jpg
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On March 06 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
A surprisingly small number of the Norende buildings are actually useful. Special moves end up being pretty pointless for the most part because by endgame you can hit the damage cap without them, and the good weapons are actually annoying to set up specials for (e.g. Katana/Dagger are the best weapons for Ninjas, but your Ninjas almost never use Default or items if they're getting 4 BP per turn from Performer/Freelancer).
I'd say in terms of usefulness, I felt the shops were something like:
Weapon Shop 6 - Angel Bow trivializes the first 3 chapters of the game
Armor Shop 3 - Less than half an hour gives you the best non-unique hat in the game
Accessory Shop 7 - Alarm Earrings are the best accessory for grinding because removing enemy first strike chance guarantees you keep the Unscathed Bonus
Weapon Shop 9 - Mutsu-no-Kami is the best non-unique main-hand weapon for Ninjas
Special Moves 11/Cape Parts 11 - The 20 Agi weapons (Fox Tail/Falcon Knife) are better than any of the other Norende weapons lategame except for the one above this
Trader 10 - Free shit
EDIT: Probably my biggest quip with the game is that the XP/JP split feels wrong (or that the XP required for higher levels is too little). In order to not end up overleveled, you basically have to not grind JP AT ALL or turn off XP gain in the game options. Which conversely means you can't really experiment with jobs and then go back to catch up on your old jobs if what you tried didn't work out.
You hit max level long before you max out all your jobs.
Yango what do you do that allows you to constantly have such crazy in-depth knowledge about every game you play?
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On March 06 2014 04:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
A surprisingly small number of the Norende buildings are actually useful. Special moves end up being pretty pointless for the most part because by endgame you can hit the damage cap without them, and the good weapons are actually annoying to set up specials for (e.g. Katana/Dagger are the best weapons for Ninjas, but your Ninjas almost never use Default or items if they're getting 4 BP per turn from Performer/Freelancer).
I'd say in terms of usefulness, I felt the shops were something like:
Weapon Shop 6 - Angel Bow trivializes the first 3 chapters of the game
Armor Shop 3 - Less than half an hour gives you the best non-unique hat in the game
Accessory Shop 7 - Alarm Earrings are the best accessory for grinding because removing enemy first strike chance guarantees you keep the Unscathed Bonus
Weapon Shop 9 - Mutsu-no-Kami is the best non-unique main-hand weapon for Ninjas
Special Moves 11/Cape Parts 11 - The 20 Agi weapons (Fox Tail/Falcon Knife) are better than any of the other Norende weapons lategame except for the one above this
Trader 10 - Free shit
EDIT: Probably my biggest quip with the game is that the XP/JP split feels wrong (or that the XP required for higher levels is too little). In order to not end up overleveled, you basically have to not grind JP AT ALL or turn off XP gain in the game options. Which conversely means you can't really experiment with jobs and then go back to catch up on your old jobs if what you tried didn't work out.
You hit max level long before you max out all your jobs. Yango what do you do that allows you to constantly have such crazy in-depth knowledge about every game you play?
Blood sacrifice. Only explanation.
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On March 06 2014 04:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
A surprisingly small number of the Norende buildings are actually useful. Special moves end up being pretty pointless for the most part because by endgame you can hit the damage cap without them, and the good weapons are actually annoying to set up specials for (e.g. Katana/Dagger are the best weapons for Ninjas, but your Ninjas almost never use Default or items if they're getting 4 BP per turn from Performer/Freelancer).
I'd say in terms of usefulness, I felt the shops were something like:
Weapon Shop 6 - Angel Bow trivializes the first 3 chapters of the game
Armor Shop 3 - Less than half an hour gives you the best non-unique hat in the game
Accessory Shop 7 - Alarm Earrings are the best accessory for grinding because removing enemy first strike chance guarantees you keep the Unscathed Bonus
Weapon Shop 9 - Mutsu-no-Kami is the best non-unique main-hand weapon for Ninjas
Special Moves 11/Cape Parts 11 - The 20 Agi weapons (Fox Tail/Falcon Knife) are better than any of the other Norende weapons lategame except for the one above this
Trader 10 - Free shit
EDIT: Probably my biggest quip with the game is that the XP/JP split feels wrong (or that the XP required for higher levels is too little). In order to not end up overleveled, you basically have to not grind JP AT ALL or turn off XP gain in the game options. Which conversely means you can't really experiment with jobs and then go back to catch up on your old jobs if what you tried didn't work out.
You hit max level long before you max out all your jobs. Yango what do you do that allows you to constantly have such crazy in-depth knowledge about every game you play?
Hivemind account. He is legion.
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On March 06 2014 04:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
A surprisingly small number of the Norende buildings are actually useful. Special moves end up being pretty pointless for the most part because by endgame you can hit the damage cap without them, and the good weapons are actually annoying to set up specials for (e.g. Katana/Dagger are the best weapons for Ninjas, but your Ninjas almost never use Default or items if they're getting 4 BP per turn from Performer/Freelancer).
I'd say in terms of usefulness, I felt the shops were something like:
Weapon Shop 6 - Angel Bow trivializes the first 3 chapters of the game
Armor Shop 3 - Less than half an hour gives you the best non-unique hat in the game
Accessory Shop 7 - Alarm Earrings are the best accessory for grinding because removing enemy first strike chance guarantees you keep the Unscathed Bonus
Weapon Shop 9 - Mutsu-no-Kami is the best non-unique main-hand weapon for Ninjas
Special Moves 11/Cape Parts 11 - The 20 Agi weapons (Fox Tail/Falcon Knife) are better than any of the other Norende weapons lategame except for the one above this
Trader 10 - Free shit
EDIT: Probably my biggest quip with the game is that the XP/JP split feels wrong (or that the XP required for higher levels is too little). In order to not end up overleveled, you basically have to not grind JP AT ALL or turn off XP gain in the game options. Which conversely means you can't really experiment with jobs and then go back to catch up on your old jobs if what you tried didn't work out.
You hit max level long before you max out all your jobs. Yango what do you do that allows you to constantly have such crazy in-depth knowledge about every game you play?
I have to assume passion + a hungry brain.
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Yango had two options, cure cancer or understand every game he plays. He chose the worth route.
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On March 05 2014 22:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 20:09 Alaric wrote:In the book + Show Spoiler +the old Frey makes a double-entendre saying how he's not that upset about what Robb did because he'll get compensated, or something like that, in the 4th or 5th page of the chapter. I immediatly thought "oh hey he's going to wreck their shit to get his revenge for the humiliation" so the rest of the chapter was somewhat predictable.  I didn't take the hint about the rains of Castamere immediatly though, and although I see what Martin was trying to do it felt a bit awkward at times mixing lyrics with descriptions of the scene. On the other hand gotta commend him for trying to show it over just telling you "Houses Stark/Tully people get slaughtered while that song is played in the background". I assume it's played even straighter in the TV show with the song starting slow and then getting louder and louder as the scene progresses or something like that. Wouldn't surprise me but I'd find it a bit campy if that was the case (eg. lack of subtlety; played as an idea from old Frey to underline his opinion of it as washing away an insult from a lower lord, I found the detail really good). + Show Spoiler +I don't really remember the scene in the show, I need to rewatch it. But in the book, I missed the foreshadowing. But I still had this super ominous feeling at the same time. Didn't stop me from being completely devastated lol.
I really should finish the 5th book...I keep getting distracted from it.
+ Show Spoiler [GoT stuff] +
I didn't watch the show, but saw some of the reaction videos(so essentially watched the scene itself). I'd say that the show did it in an okay manner, but not really what I expected(which is normal since tv -> books and all that). I don't think you had the same feel of an impending disaster. I also don't think they conveyed properly how chaotic it was or how much of a massacre it really was.
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I'll be on late tonight if I am. Gotta regulate some thing at work so the day is going to be a long one
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On March 06 2014 04:43 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 22:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 05 2014 20:09 Alaric wrote:In the book + Show Spoiler +the old Frey makes a double-entendre saying how he's not that upset about what Robb did because he'll get compensated, or something like that, in the 4th or 5th page of the chapter. I immediatly thought "oh hey he's going to wreck their shit to get his revenge for the humiliation" so the rest of the chapter was somewhat predictable. I didn't take the hint about the rains of Castamere immediatly though, and although I see what Martin was trying to do it felt a bit awkward at times mixing lyrics with descriptions of the scene. On the other hand gotta commend him for trying to show it over just telling you "Houses Stark/Tully people get slaughtered while that song is played in the background". I assume it's played even straighter in the TV show with the song starting slow and then getting louder and louder as the scene progresses or something like that. Wouldn't surprise me but I'd find it a bit campy if that was the case (eg. lack of subtlety; played as an idea from old Frey to underline his opinion of it as washing away an insult from a lower lord, I found the detail really good). + Show Spoiler +I don't really remember the scene in the show, I need to rewatch it. But in the book, I missed the foreshadowing. But I still had this super ominous feeling at the same time. Didn't stop me from being completely devastated lol.
I really should finish the 5th book...I keep getting distracted from it. + Show Spoiler [GoT stuff] +
I didn't watch the show, but saw some of the reaction videos(so essentially watched the scene itself). I'd say that the show did it in an okay manner, but not really what I expected(which is normal since tv -> books and all that). I don't think you had the same feel of an impending disaster. I also don't think they conveyed properly how chaotic it was or how much of a massacre it really was.
+ Show Spoiler +Ehhhhh I think the massacre part was pretty apparent. But I agree that they didn't hit the chaos point quite right. Overall, it wasn't as immersive in the show. You didn't get as much flavor for Edmure's feelings during the ceremoy. But, I suppose it makes sense that it's easier to write it in such a way that depicts the chaos so well.
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On March 06 2014 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:55 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 06 2014 02:57 Shelke14 wrote:
And req, I'm glad you are being nice. It's a good change, life is better with a positive outlook. Almost back to my normal bench! Did 225 for 3 yesterday, I think it's from carrying the boys in D3 with my monk/barb. I'm just getting stronger!!!!! pff PFFFFFF I've never been good at benching. Being lanky makes things like pullups/pushups/benching/etc. decidedly harder just because of sheer distance travel haha. TIL carrying in D3 = physical strength.
Barb = strength. This I know. It is known. Whirl winding mother fuckers like it's my day job. Oh and canada predicts obesity to go up like 20 percent over the next 10-15 years here. I'd like to thank myself and my co workers. 
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On March 06 2014 04:51 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:On March 06 2014 03:55 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 06 2014 02:57 Shelke14 wrote:
And req, I'm glad you are being nice. It's a good change, life is better with a positive outlook. Almost back to my normal bench! Did 225 for 3 yesterday, I think it's from carrying the boys in D3 with my monk/barb. I'm just getting stronger!!!!! pff PFFFFFF I've never been good at benching. Being lanky makes things like pullups/pushups/benching/etc. decidedly harder just because of sheer distance travel haha. TIL carrying in D3 = physical strength. Barb = strength. This I know. It is known. Whirl winding mother fuckers like it's my day job. Oh and canada predicts obesity to go up like 20 percent over the next 10-15 years here. I'd like to thank myself and my co workers.
You're welcome on behalf of freedom.
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On March 06 2014 04:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 04:43 ketchup wrote:On March 05 2014 22:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 05 2014 20:09 Alaric wrote:In the book + Show Spoiler +the old Frey makes a double-entendre saying how he's not that upset about what Robb did because he'll get compensated, or something like that, in the 4th or 5th page of the chapter. I immediatly thought "oh hey he's going to wreck their shit to get his revenge for the humiliation" so the rest of the chapter was somewhat predictable. I didn't take the hint about the rains of Castamere immediatly though, and although I see what Martin was trying to do it felt a bit awkward at times mixing lyrics with descriptions of the scene. On the other hand gotta commend him for trying to show it over just telling you "Houses Stark/Tully people get slaughtered while that song is played in the background". I assume it's played even straighter in the TV show with the song starting slow and then getting louder and louder as the scene progresses or something like that. Wouldn't surprise me but I'd find it a bit campy if that was the case (eg. lack of subtlety; played as an idea from old Frey to underline his opinion of it as washing away an insult from a lower lord, I found the detail really good). + Show Spoiler +I don't really remember the scene in the show, I need to rewatch it. But in the book, I missed the foreshadowing. But I still had this super ominous feeling at the same time. Didn't stop me from being completely devastated lol.
I really should finish the 5th book...I keep getting distracted from it. + Show Spoiler [GoT stuff] +
I didn't watch the show, but saw some of the reaction videos(so essentially watched the scene itself). I'd say that the show did it in an okay manner, but not really what I expected(which is normal since tv -> books and all that). I don't think you had the same feel of an impending disaster. I also don't think they conveyed properly how chaotic it was or how much of a massacre it really was.
+ Show Spoiler +Ehhhhh I think the massacre part was pretty apparent. But I agree that they didn't hit the chaos point quite right. Overall, it wasn't as immersive in the show. You didn't get as much flavor for Edmure's feelings during the ceremoy. But, I suppose it makes sense that it's easier to write it in such a way that depicts the chaos so well.
+ Show Spoiler +Basically your argument can just be applied to most books that are made into movies/TV shows. The visual medium has to convey things different and often lacks the immersion that books do (mostly because a lot of it is left up to your imagination). That said I think the TV show did a fine job overall. Although I'm really good at detaching my reading experiences from my viewing experience
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On March 06 2014 04:22 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 04:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 06 2014 03:43 TheYango wrote:
A surprisingly small number of the Norende buildings are actually useful. Special moves end up being pretty pointless for the most part because by endgame you can hit the damage cap without them, and the good weapons are actually annoying to set up specials for (e.g. Katana/Dagger are the best weapons for Ninjas, but your Ninjas almost never use Default or items if they're getting 4 BP per turn from Performer/Freelancer).
I'd say in terms of usefulness, I felt the shops were something like:
Weapon Shop 6 - Angel Bow trivializes the first 3 chapters of the game
Armor Shop 3 - Less than half an hour gives you the best non-unique hat in the game
Accessory Shop 7 - Alarm Earrings are the best accessory for grinding because removing enemy first strike chance guarantees you keep the Unscathed Bonus
Weapon Shop 9 - Mutsu-no-Kami is the best non-unique main-hand weapon for Ninjas
Special Moves 11/Cape Parts 11 - The 20 Agi weapons (Fox Tail/Falcon Knife) are better than any of the other Norende weapons lategame except for the one above this
Trader 10 - Free shit
EDIT: Probably my biggest quip with the game is that the XP/JP split feels wrong (or that the XP required for higher levels is too little). In order to not end up overleveled, you basically have to not grind JP AT ALL or turn off XP gain in the game options. Which conversely means you can't really experiment with jobs and then go back to catch up on your old jobs if what you tried didn't work out.
You hit max level long before you max out all your jobs. Yango what do you do that allows you to constantly have such crazy in-depth knowledge about every game you play? Blood sacrifice. Only explanation.
Blood for the Blood God?
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On March 06 2014 04:54 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 04:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 06 2014 04:43 ketchup wrote:On March 05 2014 22:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 05 2014 20:09 Alaric wrote:In the book + Show Spoiler +the old Frey makes a double-entendre saying how he's not that upset about what Robb did because he'll get compensated, or something like that, in the 4th or 5th page of the chapter. I immediatly thought "oh hey he's going to wreck their shit to get his revenge for the humiliation" so the rest of the chapter was somewhat predictable. I didn't take the hint about the rains of Castamere immediatly though, and although I see what Martin was trying to do it felt a bit awkward at times mixing lyrics with descriptions of the scene. On the other hand gotta commend him for trying to show it over just telling you "Houses Stark/Tully people get slaughtered while that song is played in the background". I assume it's played even straighter in the TV show with the song starting slow and then getting louder and louder as the scene progresses or something like that. Wouldn't surprise me but I'd find it a bit campy if that was the case (eg. lack of subtlety; played as an idea from old Frey to underline his opinion of it as washing away an insult from a lower lord, I found the detail really good). + Show Spoiler +I don't really remember the scene in the show, I need to rewatch it. But in the book, I missed the foreshadowing. But I still had this super ominous feeling at the same time. Didn't stop me from being completely devastated lol.
I really should finish the 5th book...I keep getting distracted from it. + Show Spoiler [GoT stuff] +
I didn't watch the show, but saw some of the reaction videos(so essentially watched the scene itself). I'd say that the show did it in an okay manner, but not really what I expected(which is normal since tv -> books and all that). I don't think you had the same feel of an impending disaster. I also don't think they conveyed properly how chaotic it was or how much of a massacre it really was.
+ Show Spoiler +Ehhhhh I think the massacre part was pretty apparent. But I agree that they didn't hit the chaos point quite right. Overall, it wasn't as immersive in the show. You didn't get as much flavor for Edmure's feelings during the ceremoy. But, I suppose it makes sense that it's easier to write it in such a way that depicts the chaos so well. + Show Spoiler +Basically your argument can just be applied to most books that are made into movies/TV shows. The visual medium has to convey things different and often lacks the immersion that books do (mostly because a lot of it is left up to your imagination). That said I think the TV show did a fine job overall. Although I'm really good at detaching my reading experiences from my viewing experience
+ Show Spoiler +Correct. I've occasionally seen people complain that the show is different than the books (aside from Season 1, which was essentially spot on). Obviously that's going to happen, but objectively, the show is still very, very well done held as a separate entity.
I think they did well with what they could for the Red Wedding in the show, I was just commenting that I agree that the chaos was unable to be portrayed as well as it was in the book.
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On March 06 2014 04:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 04:43 ketchup wrote:On March 05 2014 22:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 05 2014 20:09 Alaric wrote:In the book + Show Spoiler +the old Frey makes a double-entendre saying how he's not that upset about what Robb did because he'll get compensated, or something like that, in the 4th or 5th page of the chapter. I immediatly thought "oh hey he's going to wreck their shit to get his revenge for the humiliation" so the rest of the chapter was somewhat predictable. I didn't take the hint about the rains of Castamere immediatly though, and although I see what Martin was trying to do it felt a bit awkward at times mixing lyrics with descriptions of the scene. On the other hand gotta commend him for trying to show it over just telling you "Houses Stark/Tully people get slaughtered while that song is played in the background". I assume it's played even straighter in the TV show with the song starting slow and then getting louder and louder as the scene progresses or something like that. Wouldn't surprise me but I'd find it a bit campy if that was the case (eg. lack of subtlety; played as an idea from old Frey to underline his opinion of it as washing away an insult from a lower lord, I found the detail really good). + Show Spoiler +I don't really remember the scene in the show, I need to rewatch it. But in the book, I missed the foreshadowing. But I still had this super ominous feeling at the same time. Didn't stop me from being completely devastated lol.
I really should finish the 5th book...I keep getting distracted from it. + Show Spoiler [GoT stuff] +
I didn't watch the show, but saw some of the reaction videos(so essentially watched the scene itself). I'd say that the show did it in an okay manner, but not really what I expected(which is normal since tv -> books and all that). I don't think you had the same feel of an impending disaster. I also don't think they conveyed properly how chaotic it was or how much of a massacre it really was.
+ Show Spoiler +Ehhhhh I think the massacre part was pretty apparent. But I agree that they didn't hit the chaos point quite right. Overall, it wasn't as immersive in the show. You didn't get as much flavor for Edmure's feelings during the ceremoy. But, I suppose it makes sense that it's easier to write it in such a way that depicts the chaos so well.
+ Show Spoiler [GoT stuff] + I also enjoyed the books for the foreshadowing that happens. If I remember correctly, I remember how big a deal Catelyn made of reminding Robb about guest rights(which doesn't matter in the end anyways because Frey is Frey), Grey Wind being agitated(which reminds me, fucking Robb ignored Grey Wind. What the fuck man), Roose Bolton, and the band in the party being so horrible(because they were actually soldiers playing instruments). I'm missing quite a bit since I haven't reread the books in a while. The set up in the book is amazing.
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On March 06 2014 05:03 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 04:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 06 2014 04:43 ketchup wrote:On March 05 2014 22:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 05 2014 20:09 Alaric wrote:In the book + Show Spoiler +the old Frey makes a double-entendre saying how he's not that upset about what Robb did because he'll get compensated, or something like that, in the 4th or 5th page of the chapter. I immediatly thought "oh hey he's going to wreck their shit to get his revenge for the humiliation" so the rest of the chapter was somewhat predictable. I didn't take the hint about the rains of Castamere immediatly though, and although I see what Martin was trying to do it felt a bit awkward at times mixing lyrics with descriptions of the scene. On the other hand gotta commend him for trying to show it over just telling you "Houses Stark/Tully people get slaughtered while that song is played in the background". I assume it's played even straighter in the TV show with the song starting slow and then getting louder and louder as the scene progresses or something like that. Wouldn't surprise me but I'd find it a bit campy if that was the case (eg. lack of subtlety; played as an idea from old Frey to underline his opinion of it as washing away an insult from a lower lord, I found the detail really good). + Show Spoiler +I don't really remember the scene in the show, I need to rewatch it. But in the book, I missed the foreshadowing. But I still had this super ominous feeling at the same time. Didn't stop me from being completely devastated lol.
I really should finish the 5th book...I keep getting distracted from it. + Show Spoiler [GoT stuff] +
I didn't watch the show, but saw some of the reaction videos(so essentially watched the scene itself). I'd say that the show did it in an okay manner, but not really what I expected(which is normal since tv -> books and all that). I don't think you had the same feel of an impending disaster. I also don't think they conveyed properly how chaotic it was or how much of a massacre it really was.
+ Show Spoiler +Ehhhhh I think the massacre part was pretty apparent. But I agree that they didn't hit the chaos point quite right. Overall, it wasn't as immersive in the show. You didn't get as much flavor for Edmure's feelings during the ceremoy. But, I suppose it makes sense that it's easier to write it in such a way that depicts the chaos so well. + Show Spoiler [GoT stuff] + I also enjoyed the books for the foreshadowing that happens. If I remember correctly, I remember how big a deal Catelyn made of reminding Robb about guest rights(which doesn't matter in the end anyways because Frey is Frey), Grey Wind being agitated(which reminds me, fucking Robb ignored Grey Wind. What the fuck man), Roose Bolton, and the band in the party being so horrible(because they were actually soldiers playing instruments). I'm missing quite a bit since I haven't reread the books in a while. The set up in the book is amazing.
+ Show Spoiler +And I mean, while that's true, I think the show is fine cutting a lot of that out. Sure, I love the foreshadowing as much as everyone, but legitimately like 30% of those books are just foreshadowing and symbolism for things that are going to happen eventually. And while that's nice and fun to read, it's not necessary, especially in a time-limited format. I enjoy both, and I don't think the show has botched anything from the books beyond redemption yet.
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+ Show Spoiler +Actually, the way the book does it, especially the part with lyrics intertwined with descriptions of the scenes (which I found awkward in the execution but 0K in the concept as it beats describing how people die "to the sounds of Rains of Castamere in the background" any day), is something that would be really easy to portray on TV I think, because you can have the sound playing at the same time as the scenes, while the book alternates them.
Of course, you'd also have so many opportunities to fuck it up, especially by putting the song's sound over the chaos and making it the scene's theme song over an integral part of it, and I don't trust most TV... uh, I think the English term is director? to do things well rather than grandiloquent or campy.
I think I'd like a shot of the whole (huge) room from above, so you can see the chaos unfold everywhere but you also have the band's place in a corner of the screen, with the crossbowmen shooting stragglers and the real musicians who keep playing. I should just youtube the scene or something.
Re: Roose Bolton, at this point I assumed he didn't know about his bastard son burning Winterfell, and that if he did he would disapprove of it, so I was surprised by him switching sides instead of seeing his presence as foreshadowing.
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yango as barb should i just be running cleave (slow glyph, for stopping them diving the squishies)//war cry/threatening shout/jump/ground stomp (with the cyclone strike glyph for more zone control) and triple defensive passives (sheeperstition/touugh as nails/armour vit thing) on hc?
ive tried stuff like seismic slam with stun, rend with bloodlust, hammer of ancients for dammage but seems like no good way to spend fury
ive tried frenzy as well but i feel like you have to walk closer and targetting only 1 dude at a time seems to do less damage (even with 60% + attack speed cleave does at least 2x damage most of the time except on bosses you switch obviously)
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damn the ogn group selection is hilarious, also kakao the bringer of chaos
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