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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + What the fuck is with Gravelord Nito? After struggling through the area to get to him (demon babies what the fuck) I beat Nito first try without even trying. He only had like three attacks. Was he supposed to be that easy? I didn't need to know his moves or anything, and it was all telegraphed as fuck. Seriously it was a major buzzkill. | ||
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Omnishroud
1073 Posts
On February 23 2014 15:12 WaveofShadow wrote: I get the feeling I'm somewhere I'm not supposed to be. First a bunch of fucking Malphites attack me. I kill a couple npnp. Then another two charge me but they die because some giant fucking thing in the background is shooting waterbolts at me. I nope the fuck out of there, kill another Black Knight and enter the Valley of the motherfucking Drakes where some Blue dragon shoots lightning at me. After an intense battle where I pussy around and kill it with fucking magic, I think I'm lost as to where to go next. Maybe that graveyard area near Firelink...? + Show Spoiler + Sounds like you need to go to depths. Malphites and giant are past havel. The depths entrance is that locked door before the fire breathing dragon on bridge. Depths into blighttown. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Yall keep pushing me towards blighttown and talking about it is only making me realize its a shit place and I don't want to be there. In other news I killed a little guy and got some sparkling titanite, AND I figured out where the stat requirement to use an item is---i may get a few levels before I do anything. I definitely need to change up my weapons/armor. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On February 23 2014 10:33 Duvon wrote: You clearly used it as a derogatory term. I was wrong, you didn't use it to scip, ops. I'm off to bed now. it was a reference to a korean girl in ladies in a gif doing some weird thing with her hands and then like ending with the throat cut clearly we should get on that because ripping someones asshole out and then cutting their throat is clearly wrong also i was using it as a derogatory term to who? I had no subject, just hypothetical bitches/fuckers/people my choice of insult and had no importance except as linguistic flair On February 23 2014 10:50 Lord Tolkien wrote: Then why not use generic insults instead of insults which are necessarily derogatory towards minorities, or have potentially negative implications? Why not use "fucker" instead of "faggot" for instance, or rekt'd instead of raped, does that really change whatever you're saying in game, or convey your meaning any differently? They are not necessarily derogatory toward minorities, words are tools and its not wrong if i cut vegetables with a type of kitchen knife that has been used in the past to commit murders. I use words like rekt, raped, rapped , fuckers, etc all as part of my swearing repotoire to keeps things fresh, you just don't notice because you only take notice if I use a certain few of them. In fact if anything I've been using rekt far too often recently but I guess most of it on skype. On February 23 2014 10:50 Lord Tolkien wrote: Moreover, words don't need to have the intent to hurt to cause harm. You don't actually have to be racist/sexist/homophobic for them to be something other than generic insults, and the usage of such words in a negative manner connotes homophobia/sexism/racism, and if minorities take offense to it, there's absolutely no room to argue that they shouldn't. Arguing that, "oh hey, "faggot" refers to a bundle of wood and LGBT people shouldn't be offended by it" is pretty damn obtuse. "and the usage of such words in a negative manner connotes homophobia/sexism/racism" just because some people use them in that way doesn't mean it means that for everyone. " and if minorities take offense to it, there's absolutely no room to argue that they shouldn't. " if someone takes offense it's not largely my problem. There's nothing wrong with being offended. Are you saying nobody should ever use insults that have any history at the risk of someone being offended? On February 23 2014 10:50 Lord Tolkien wrote: I hate the fact I'm taking the Tumblr SJW stance here, but yeah no. idc if you use it with your friends (though I will note that it can still make them uncomfortable, though they won't bring it up), but using slurs in a negative context in a public forum, or in a team game, does alienate minorities, because it doesn't fking matter what your intent was, all that matters is how it's perceived. I think in 2014 you'd have trouble finding someone reading a gaming forum who believes that because someone uses the work cunt they are sexist or because they use the word faggot that they hate gay people. Generally personal attacks are cracked down on pretty damn fast by the mods anyway, so the use of them in negative context is pretty much nonexistent. Also are you like the oracle of everyone? Just because you, with the active stance against using any slur words in any context are uncomfortable, doesn't mean everyones friends are uncomfortable, and doesn't mean everyone feels alienated. Anyway, I feel alienated when people talk about pokemon because I was never allowed to play pokemon as a kid. Should we ban pokemon? Intent DOES fucking matter. If someone perceives it the wrong way but never bothers to try to clarify, so what. Again, not my problem. I don't think I have ever been asked by anyone if I hated gay people and I don't think anyone thinks that. Except all these hypothetical people who read TL, see someone say the word faggot and then assume everyone on that forum hates gay people. I think you need to give people more credit than that, they are on the whole very intelligent. Seems like the biggest group of people who would be put off are people like you who think its morally wrong to use certain words just because dickheads have used them to hurt people in the past. On February 23 2014 10:50 Lord Tolkien wrote: The gaming community is in general rife with this kind of mentality (I'm not actually X/Y/Z-ist, therefore I can use X/Y/Z-ist slurs without fear), and it isn't inclusive for minorities. I'll just point you to this r/lolgaymers discussion about it. Personally, I don't generally get offended by gay slurs, but I understand why many of the rest of LGBT community does. It's not, "I'm not Xist so I can use X-ist slurs without fear" It's more like "I can exercise my right to communicate and free speech" and then someone comes up and says "Don't use that word only racist use that word" "no I'm not racist it's just a word so leave me alone" It's not that people are like YESSS I CAN USE RACIST SLURS THX INTERNET it's more like. you're going around saying whatever you want and then some guy shows up and picks up 5 of them and says NO YOU CANT USE THESE THEY ARE EVIL WORDS THEY WILL RAISE THE DEVIL AND CAUSE GREAT PAIN. Like seriously? From my reading of the above lolgaymers thread I feel like there's a lot of people who straight up agree with me, and then the rest people share your view or your view to some extreme. I mean riot bans people for verbal abuse anyway so that thread is whatever. I mean that the way the evolution is right now in a few years no gay people will be offended by the word faggot because it will be so much in widespread use that it will have completely lost its meaning. Don't you think that's much better than sticking it into the "nigger box" where YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO USE THIS WORD IF YOU ARE A RACIST OR BLACK. and even most racists will just come up with a new way be verbally abusive because the word has such a stigma attached to it and the word largely becomes a dead word and that has nothing to do with the stop of the spread of racism, it's more a lot more integration and education has stopped the spread of racism and now people say "n-word" on tv instead of nigger. On February 23 2014 10:50 Lord Tolkien wrote: On the actual Imp drama, meh. It was a private conversation meant to be taken in confidence, but that's still not much of an excuse; apologize, change your behavior, and move on. I'm personally not offended by the use of the word, and Imp'll probably be crucified for the context of the statement (god I'm so much better than Piglet) moreso than the unfortunate choice of words. I'd probably take offense to it, honestly. Who has results? Not Imp, that's who. It would be nice it there were an official penalty for using such language like in major sports league like the NHL etc, but I doubt it'll happen, nor does it really apply here given the nature of the convo. This is all I'm going to say on it because I think this will lead to nothing but a trainwreck, and I want to lrn how2beat all these damn rogues in Hearthstone. So OP wtf mang. you're acting like he called anyone a faggot and it just wasn't a random korean slur that *shock horror* was translated into faggot as a generic insult. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35089 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
get a brain morans sheeple etcetc its also pretty hypocritical because it follows the same sort of line of thought that makes moms line up on talkshows about banning GTA5 which everyone here would rage against also in the support ww thing it was everybody vs sarah bryant but it ended up just being me because nobody else has a convincing argument they just used non-racist/sexist/homophobic slurs I mean there's absolutely a part of me that totally agrees that we should never use faggot and shudders at the thought of saying it because its so offensive and shit but the rest of me is of the opinion that that part of me is a total retard and it should shut the fuck up | ||
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Gahlo
United States35089 Posts
On February 23 2014 21:21 Slayer91 wrote: yo i'm not my problem you all follow the same politically correct circlejerk opinions get a brain morans sheeple etcetc its also pretty hypocritical because it follows the same sort of line of thought that makes moms line up on talkshows about banning GTA5 which everyone here would rage against Just don't get upset we're circlejerking, yo. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35089 Posts
On February 23 2014 21:27 WaveofShadow wrote: So who else is watching the gold medal game right now? Does it matter? Isn't kinda like Champions Winter where whoever one the semi on the good side of the bracket can mail it in for 1st? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Sigh. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
1-0 woooooo | ||
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Gahlo
United States35089 Posts
On February 23 2014 21:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Murrica. Sigh. Hey, I didn't ask Canadians if they were watching the Superbowl. | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
On February 23 2014 17:30 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Dark Soul spoilers ahead + Show Spoiler + What the fuck is with Gravelord Nito? After struggling through the area to get to him (demon babies what the fuck) I beat Nito first try without even trying. He only had like three attacks. Was he supposed to be that easy? I didn't need to know his moves or anything, and it was all telegraphed as fuck. Seriously it was a major buzzkill. Spoilers of spoilers + Show Spoiler + Nito is the First of the Dead, so as such the worst part of his move set is his Grave Lord GreatSword-esque attack (the one where it comes out of the ground) and the other hard part is his constant summoning on the 15 or so skeletons, unless you have a Diving weapon to keep those fuckers down. He is probably the easiest of the 4 Great Lords to actually fight, barring Bed of FPS once you know one of the like 3 tricks. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
also as an addendum to the discussion I found that after all my posts I feel more sensitive about using the word faggot than when i started this is not because i believe in anyones arguments but its just that associating the words as anything other than generic insult even if you disagree with it still has an effect on you. meanwhile if i call scip a faggot for prefering sai's long range techniques and stuff like that constantly it helps to completely detach the word from any prior meaning. to me that's a testament to the problems with stigmatizing words like that and it helps me understand why people get so butthurt, as consciously having a reason to not use the word subconciously makes you associate it with a negative meaning interesting stuff | ||
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Gahlo
United States35089 Posts
On February 23 2014 23:10 Slayer91 wrote: as for penalties and such, I'm pretty sure if anyone ever did use rude language (insults and swears) on LCS, they'd probably get at least a warning and possibly fines just like in NHL. LCS like other sports stuff generally avoids any kind of that stuff because its rude and not what people want to hear. Riot has done it in the past. At an IPL(I think 4?), Dyrus used retard(ed) in an interview on stage. On another one later in the event, since it was only recently he joined the team so he was getting all the interviews, he made a public apology because Riot pulled him aside and went "that's not cool." | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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Scip
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