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On February 20 2014 02:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +But it all ties into Generation Wuss and its wussy influence on social media to a degree; if you have a snarky opinion about anything, you’re a douche. To me, that’s problematic. It limits discourse. If you just like everything, what are we going to talk about? How great everything is? How often I’ve pushed the Like button on my Facebook page?
where are you getting this gold material from
On February 20 2014 02:25 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 02:19 Requizen wrote:
People should just be nice to other people on principle. Cancer only begets more cancer. The cult of positivity is the most cancerous thing to happen to the Western world since those Enlightenment dipshits thought human rationality was a thing
being positive is not the same as ignoring negativity, which is just being PC to avoid conflict
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As someone that is on the personal receiving end of Csheep's antics...as in you guys might get this shit while online....but I get it whenever I see him face to face...I guess I might just be desensitized?
On February 20 2014 02:26 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 02:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:But it all ties into Generation Wuss and its wussy influence on social media to a degree; if you have a snarky opinion about anything, you’re a douche. To me, that’s problematic. It limits discourse. If you just like everything, what are we going to talk about? How great everything is? How often I’ve pushed the Like button on my Facebook page? where are you getting this gold material from
http://www.vice.com/read/bret-easton-ellis-interview
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On February 20 2014 02:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 02:19 Requizen wrote:
People should just be nice to other people on principle. Cancer only begets more cancer. I disagree with this sentiment but only because I've been on forums where people are way too nice. Like....scary nice. T__T; And then there are certain people who like a lot of things...almost everything...and basically have nothing much but generic opinions to talk to you about, which makes for very boring discussion. -.-
This forum isn't like that though. We do take shots at one another here and there but it's only in jest. It quickly moves on because we have gotten on such good terms with each other. This sub forum is anything but boring and highlighting moments would do nothing to raise the thread, if only to raise shitty posting moments in an attempt to be enlisted in that "hall of fame" thread.
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On February 20 2014 02:26 Zergneedsfood wrote:
As someone that is on the personal receiving end of Csheep's antics...as in you guys might get this shit while online....but I get it whenever I see him face to face...I guess I might just be desensitized?
“If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you”
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On February 20 2014 02:27 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 02:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:On February 20 2014 02:19 Requizen wrote:
People should just be nice to other people on principle. Cancer only begets more cancer. I disagree with this sentiment but only because I've been on forums where people are way too nice. Like....scary nice. T__T; And then there are certain people who like a lot of things...almost everything...and basically have nothing much but generic opinions to talk to you about, which makes for very boring discussion. -.- This forum isn't like that though. We do take shots at one another here and there but it's only in jest. It quickly moves on because we have gotten on such good terms with each other. This sub forum is anything but boring and highlighting moments would do nothing to raise the thread, if only to raise shitty posting moments in an attempt to be enlisted in that "hall of fame" thread.
Uhh, no, I'm not referring to this forum. Though there is one person I can think of in a thread I frequent....>___>
w/e
On February 20 2014 02:27 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 02:26 Zergneedsfood wrote:
As someone that is on the personal receiving end of Csheep's antics...as in you guys might get this shit while online....but I get it whenever I see him face to face...I guess I might just be desensitized? “If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you”
pls, mercy
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On February 20 2014 02:27 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 02:26 Zergneedsfood wrote:
As someone that is on the personal receiving end of Csheep's antics...as in you guys might get this shit while online....but I get it whenever I see him face to face...I guess I might just be desensitized? “If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you”
Wei2 19:2014
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On February 20 2014 02:25 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 02:19 Requizen wrote:
People should just be nice to other people on principle. Cancer only begets more cancer. The cult of positivity is the most cancerous thing to happen to the Western world since those Enlightenment dipshits thought human rationality was a thing
xes there's no reason to be so mean. Everyone's just a person trying to do people things.
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Stop your bickering your idiots, Canada takes 3 more in the 9th! GG no RE, this game is in the bag.
Anyone know a way to watch UK vs SWE? Sounds like their game is close.
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I tend to be a dick to people i know and more reserved around people i don't. If you don't know me I'll be more polite simply because they don't have enough information to realize I'm not being malicious. However I get zero stimulation intellectually from being polite, you can't really discuss anything properly if you aren't both honest and blunt about what you think
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I was reading that article earlier, I'm not sure that I agree. I think a minority and press shines a light on a lot of the "wussy" parts of our generation, but for the most part our generation is mostly numb to shit. We're so far detached from the realities of what is. War is just something we see on TV now, IED's taking lives is a normal occurrence, and starving children charity ads are scoffed at. I don't think this generation is wussy, so much as it's indifferent to the true nature of things, and just feeds on tumblr-tier progressive views.
On February 20 2014 02:30 Slayer91 wrote:
I tend to be a dick to people i know and more reserved around people i don't. If you don't know me I'll be more polite simply because they don't have enough information to realize I'm not being malicious. However I get zero stimulation intellectually from being polite, you can't really discuss anything properly if you aren't both honest and blunt about what you think
You can be honest without sounding like a dick.
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On February 20 2014 02:30 Slayer91 wrote:
I tend to be a dick to people i know and more reserved around people i don't. If you don't know me I'll be more polite simply because they don't have enough information to realize I'm not being malicious. However I get zero stimulation intellectually from being polite, you can't really discuss anything properly if you aren't both honest and blunt about what you think
I mean, there is a distinction between discussing something you don't agree with passionately and being a dick, but I don't know if anyone who is a regular has ever actually been offended by this board.
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pretty sure i already offended everyone when someone said you can't categorize people and I said you can easily even binary can do it and then suddenly im transphobic
being a dick is a subjective thing and if someone disagrees with you they often going to think they're a dick anyway, unless you mean they are using ad hominem arguments which not everyone does but you can still think that they are a dick
also pretty sure i offended someone because i made racist jokes or something or saying racist jokes are ok something like that
frankly if you're offended though its your problem not mine
avoiding a topic that you know is a sensitive subject for someone is being polite, but it isn't being truly honest
i mean assuming the topic is up for discussion, if you just randomly try to offend people fair enough
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Wave, did you have to download that flight sim thing to get GFWL to recognize Dark Souls? I have been avoiding it out of principle, but I'm about to cave just to play some Dark Souls...Would stream it as well, so if you guys have requests for things to try, I'm willing to do them. Was thinking either Dex/Faith or Strength/Faith, maybe Dex/INT but soul sorceries are terribad outside of PvP....
Slayer, I love you. We think the same, if I don't know you that well, I'm nice and polite, but to my friends I'm constantly called either a dick or a douche or something along those lines
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On February 20 2014 02:35 Slayer91 wrote:
pretty sure i already offended everyone when someone said you can't categorize people and I said you can easily even binary can do it and then suddenly im transphobic
being a dick is a subjective thing and if someone disagrees with you they often going to think they're a dick anyway, unless you mean they are using ad hominem arguments which not everyone does but you can still think that they are a dick
also pretty sure i offended someone because i made racist jokes or something or saying racist jokes are ok something like that
frankly if you're offended though its your problem not mine
avoiding a topic that you know is a sensitive subject for someone is being polite, but it isn't being truly honest
Obviously calling someone a faggot is going to make you look like a dick.
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On February 20 2014 02:33 wei2coolman wrote:
I was reading that article earlier, I'm not sure that I agree. I think a minority and press shines a light on a lot of the "wussy" parts of our generation, but for the most part our generation is mostly numb to shit. We're so far detached from the realities of what is. War is just something we see on TV now, IED's taking lives is a normal occurrence, and starving children charity ads are scoffed at. I don't think this generation is wussy, so much as it's indifferent to the true nature of things, and just feeds on tumblr-tier progressive views.
That's not what the article is about. The article doesn't describe how numb/indifferent/apathetic we are to world events. It describes how we can't take criticism, how we can't be blunt/honest to other people without them feeling like they're super offended. Hence quotes like:
You have to understand that I’m coming to these things as a member of the most pessimistic and ironic generation that has ever roamed the earth. When I hear millennials getting hurt by "cyber bullying," or it being a gateway to suicide, it’s difficult for me to process. A little less so for my boyfriend, who happens to be a millennial of that age, but even he somewhat agrees with the sensitivity of Generation Wuss. It’s very difficult for them to take criticism, and because of that a lot of the content produced is kind of shitty. And when someone is criticized for their content, they seem to collapse, or the person criticizing them is called a hater, a contrarian, a troll.
We therefore force the opinions of others away, deeming them trolls, hipster elitists, pretentious assholes, etc. This may be partially because they are trolls, hipster elitists, or pretentious assholes (all three?) but it may also heavily be because we don't like to admit that we're wrong, or don't like to face the facts that other people have a much better presented argument. I believe the latter to be very true.
Like this quote:
In a way it’s down to the generation that raised them, who cocooned them in praise—four stars for showing up, you know? But eventually everyone has to hit the dark side of life; someone doesn’t like you, someone doesn’t like your work, someone doesn’t love you back… people die. What we have is a generation who are super-confident and super-positive about things, but when the least bit of darkness enters their lives, they’re paralyzed.
Or this quote:
But it all ties into Generation Wuss and its wussy influence on social media to a degree; if you have a snarky opinion about anything, you’re a douche. To me, that’s problematic. It limits discourse. If you just like everything, what are we going to talk about? How great everything is? How often I’ve pushed the Like button on my Facebook page?
Is it BuzzFeed who said they’re not going to run any negative reviews any more? Really, guys? What’s going to happen to culture then? What’s going to happen to conversation? It’s going to die.
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Does cheep really act like that at work? Is he your boss? I'm pretty sure that would get incredibly frustrating incredibly quickly.
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On February 20 2014 02:39 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 02:35 Slayer91 wrote:
pretty sure i already offended everyone when someone said you can't categorize people and I said you can easily even binary can do it and then suddenly im transphobic
being a dick is a subjective thing and if someone disagrees with you they often going to think they're a dick anyway, unless you mean they are using ad hominem arguments which not everyone does but you can still think that they are a dick
also pretty sure i offended someone because i made racist jokes or something or saying racist jokes are ok something like that
frankly if you're offended though its your problem not mine
avoiding a topic that you know is a sensitive subject for someone is being polite, but it isn't being truly honest Obviously calling someone a faggot is going to make you look like a dick.
thats being ad hominem, i already mentioned that case but it isn't particularly a common reason why people get offended, but it is a common reason people get pissed off
also people have to realize that before social media there was less people you talked to, either you had people who think you are a retard who are being polite or you had friends who you at least know them long enough that you don't get super mad when they disagree with you.
so social media is just a whole bigge sphere of communication between people who don't know each other well, and then most people are polite and the ones who aren't are just seen as malicious
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On February 20 2014 02:41 Cixah wrote:
Does cheep really act like that at work? Is he your boss? I'm pretty sure that would get incredibly frustrating incredibly quickly.
No we're just friends that go out and eat occasionally or go places, and we were roommates last year.
There was a noticeable increase in my shit posting that year actually, but I've learned to balance his good influences with his bad ones.
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On February 20 2014 02:40 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 02:33 wei2coolman wrote:
I was reading that article earlier, I'm not sure that I agree. I think a minority and press shines a light on a lot of the "wussy" parts of our generation, but for the most part our generation is mostly numb to shit. We're so far detached from the realities of what is. War is just something we see on TV now, IED's taking lives is a normal occurrence, and starving children charity ads are scoffed at. I don't think this generation is wussy, so much as it's indifferent to the true nature of things, and just feeds on tumblr-tier progressive views. That's not what the article is about. The article doesn't describe how numb/indifferent/apathetic we are to world events. It describes how we can't take criticism, how we can't be blunt/honest to other people without them feeling like they're super offended. Hence quotes like: Show nested quote +You have to understand that I’m coming to these things as a member of the most pessimistic and ironic generation that has ever roamed the earth. When I hear millennials getting hurt by "cyber bullying," or it being a gateway to suicide, it’s difficult for me to process. A little less so for my boyfriend, who happens to be a millennial of that age, but even he somewhat agrees with the sensitivity of Generation Wuss. It’s very difficult for them to take criticism, and because of that a lot of the content produced is kind of shitty. And when someone is criticized for their content, they seem to collapse, or the person criticizing them is called a hater, a contrarian, a troll. We therefore force the opinions of others away, deeming them trolls, hipster elitists, pretentious assholes, etc. This may be partially because they are trolls, hipster elitists, or pretentious assholes (all three?) but it may also heavily be because we don't like to admit that we're wrong, or don't like to face the facts that other people have a much better presented argument. I believe the latter to be very true. Like this quote: Show nested quote +In a way it’s down to the generation that raised them, who cocooned them in praise—four stars for showing up, you know? But eventually everyone has to hit the dark side of life; someone doesn’t like you, someone doesn’t like your work, someone doesn’t love you back… people die. What we have is a generation who are super-confident and super-positive about things, but when the least bit of darkness enters their lives, they’re paralyzed. Or this quote: Show nested quote +But it all ties into Generation Wuss and its wussy influence on social media to a degree; if you have a snarky opinion about anything, you’re a douche. To me, that’s problematic. It limits discourse. If you just like everything, what are we going to talk about? How great everything is? How often I’ve pushed the Like button on my Facebook page?
Is it BuzzFeed who said they’re not going to run any negative reviews any more? Really, guys? What’s going to happen to culture then? What’s going to happen to conversation? It’s going to die.
But, I'm saying we aren't wusses because we're desensitized for the most part.
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