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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On February 19 2014 01:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 01:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I personally really enjoy greek/roman mythology/history. Especially war history of that period - it's far more interesting to me than really any other history.
edit: I took 6 years of Latin in middle/high school, so I got many tastes of Homer's writings, as well as many other historians' writings. Most of it I found pretty interesting, just hated doing the school work associated with it. I think almost anyone remotely nerdy went through a phase of obsession with Greek/Roman mythology, and then history, somewhere from middle school to high school.
Oh damn, I really ought to read Caesar's Comentarii. Still have them from the phase you mentioned, never got around to reading them though.
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On February 19 2014 01:28 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 01:26 Scip wrote:
Clicked on one of the TL ads for some kind of dating services and they claim to have 6 million members from Czech Republic alone. The elephant hurts itself.
Ancient warfare is the best and most fun, firearms really changed warfare and not for the better. Fuck gunpowder. Scip, there are 6 million hot single women in [your home country of choice]. Just think of the possibilities!
https://xkcd.com/713/
also yeah, i hated those games where you could tech into gunpowder, pre gunpowder warfare so much better
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On February 19 2014 01:39 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 01:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On February 19 2014 01:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I personally really enjoy greek/roman mythology/history. Especially war history of that period - it's far more interesting to me than really any other history.
edit: I took 6 years of Latin in middle/high school, so I got many tastes of Homer's writings, as well as many other historians' writings. Most of it I found pretty interesting, just hated doing the school work associated with it. I think almost anyone remotely nerdy went through a phase of obsession with Greek/Roman mythology, and then history, somewhere from middle school to high school. Oh damn, I really ought to read Caesar's Comentarii. Still have them from the phase you mentioned, never got around to reading them though.
just googled this, definitely adding to things I need to check out
Bello Gallico was an interesting clash of barbarians vs order - I like to think of it like ZvP. The masses of tech-starved hordes against the expanding fist of SPQR
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Baa?21248 Posts
On February 19 2014 01:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:Agreed Scip. Battle was far more skill intensive and impressive when it was all hand to hand. Archery was also an incredible skill set (although back then it was also considered somewhat cowardly to not face your enemy head on). Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 01:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On February 19 2014 01:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I personally really enjoy greek/roman mythology/history. Especially war history of that period - it's far more interesting to me than really any other history.
edit: I took 6 years of Latin in middle/high school, so I got many tastes of Homer's writings, as well as many other historians' writings. Most of it I found pretty interesting, just hated doing the school work associated with it. I think almost anyone remotely nerdy went through a phase of obsession with Greek/Roman mythology, and then history, somewhere from middle school to high school. *shrug* probably - but I've gotten a lot of it in my years taking latin (and 1 year taking ancient greek) It's not really an obsession, it's just the only history I'm really interested in actually learning about. I find history interesting in general, but I'm bad at remembering dates or places or names, so studying more recent history doesn't do all that much for me.
Not necessarily obsession, but definitely intense/decent interest. A lot of people seem to like ancient history/mythology more. Not really sure why but it's definitely something I've observed - far more people go through a Roman/Greek/Norse mythology/history phase than a Civli War phase of 19th century European history phase 
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Norse mythology ftw. I really like random details like how the Gods are mortal, and just say young because of Idunn's apples and how they freak out the day she gets kidnapped. Gives them very humane qualities in a way.
I also love to read about folklore, ties between the environment and how they deal with phenomena, the explanations and origins for mythical creatures. I'm sure sources and works exist for Egyptian and Greek mythologies too but most of the mainstream stuff you find about it doesn't address these topics at all, which makes them less interesting to randomly delve in than the whole celtic/german/norse mythology (especially all the saxon isles').
^ I think it may have to do with how mythology can easily be summed up, and it's made to easily appeal to people since it mostly comes from tales, legends, etc. if you want to study strict History, the closer you get to the present time the more you need to look for "fun facts" or stuff like that.
As in, the lore/factual context ratio tends to reverse between ancient history and modern history, so it's harder to get into it.
I really like learning new things, even the most random, or just having a better understanding of a situation. On the other hand it means that I sometimes approach current events (like the whole political and ethical mess in Palestine) the same I would Poland during the interwar, Gettysburg, the War of the Roses or the aos sí.
I'm aware it's pretty desensitised so I try to watch m wording when discussing this kind of recent topics so as not to be rude to people.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
David Mitchell is the only person who ever went through 18th/19th century Europe phase
I read the books by Ammianus Marcellinus when I was like 10, it was pretty good. Gives you a pretty good idea of the late Roman empire.
My main interests were in order something like: Dinosaurs -> Insects/Snakes/Spiders -> Roman history -> Mathematics. Does that look nerdy?
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Baa?21248 Posts
On February 19 2014 01:46 Scip wrote:
Does that look nerdy?
You're on TL.
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United States23745 Posts
For whatever reason I've been reading Bravely Default as Bravery Default and I like my version better.
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On February 19 2014 02:50 onlywonderboy wrote:
For whatever season I've been reading Bravely Default as Bravery Default and I like my version better.
For whatever reason I've been reading reason as Season and I like my version better.
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United States23745 Posts
On February 19 2014 03:19 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 02:50 onlywonderboy wrote:
For whatever season I've been reading Bravely Default as Bravery Default and I like my version better. For whatever reason I've been reading reason as Season and I like my version better.
OH GOD I'M LIKE DRUNK WAVE
jk phone posting is hard.
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On February 19 2014 01:45 Alaric wrote:
I really like learning new things, even the most random, or just having a better understanding of a situation. On the other hand it means that I sometimes approach current events (like the whole political and ethical mess in Palestine) the same I would Poland during the interwar, Gettysburg, the War of the Roses or the aos sí.
I'm aware it's pretty desensitised so I try to watch m wording when discussing this kind of recent topics so as not to be rude to people.
People have a very difficult time looking at things objectively, which is often why I just avoid trying to talk to people about things if I know they'll just be thick headed - the discussion is pointless and a waste of time/energy. The closer to the present the discussion ends up being, the less objective people tend to be.
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Y'know, I'm starting to find that whole TPP thing really fascinating. And I'm not talking about the stream: the stream is hilarious, but the fascination comes from what the people have come up with around the whole thing, the memes and stuff. Arguably, I'm eager to see if by the end of it they'll have managed to somehow tie the events to spin some kind of tale.
The whole "hive mind" thing and the Helix meme that spawned have interesting implications too, wrt interpretations and stuff. It occurred to me when I compared this with that.
Accepting a theory that Red is hearing voices telling him what to do/where to go, one could argue whether they provide guidance or slowly drive him insane. Add in the whole religious vocabulary toward the Helix Fossil and you can start playing make believe around subjectivity versus truth: is the Helix guidance, and the Dome fossil a malevolent influence with Eevee as a minion? Or is the Helix manipulating Red and a host of agents (the viewers playing along the meme) to do his bidding for whatever purpose, while the Dome is inactive or trying to free Red from voices in his head?
Now compare it to the way people make it out to be for now, and how it'll probably turn out in the end. The Helix will be depicted as the great savior or something, instrumental in Red's victory, and even out of "make believe" it'll be the version recorded when various people and sites try to explain the phenomenon and memes related to TPP. Still, it'll only be "the Helix's followers", or meme's followers, version, and it'll be remembered as the story behind the game/experiment, in a "winner dictates History" way.
I mean, sure, it requires pulling some hairs, but looking at the whole thing in a meta way and all the parallels that can be drawn make it fascinating to me.
Also this.
Edit for Soniv: it's not really about "taking sides", rather than seeing what's happening the same way you'd approach a conflict long over and which only involves dead people. I mean, I could say the same about the wars in Bosnia, but I wasn't educated enough at the time to take an interest in it as I am now.
It's more the "they are people, not History facts/numbers/statistics/whatever!" if you will.
Edit²: I so want people to start a war of opinions over this and observe it as it unfolds.
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I logged off all weekend and spent all morning catching up i want my time back.
elephant warfare is awesome too.
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On February 19 2014 03:39 Alaric wrote:
Edit: it's not really about "taking sides", rather than seeing what's happening the same way you'd approach a conflict long over and which only involves dead people. I mean, I could say the same about the wars in Bosnia, but I wasn't educated enough at the time to take an interest in it as I am now.
It's more the "they are people, not History facts/numbers/statistics/whatever!" if you will.
Which would classify as "not looking at it completely objectively" in my mind. When anything other than just facts get involved, it leaves the realm of objectivity.
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Talking with "thick-headed" people can be useful.
If you approach discussion and argumentation with the intent to learn and not to be right, you can get a lot out of it, even if the person you're arguing with wants to win.
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On February 19 2014 04:03 kainzero wrote:
Talking with "thick-headed" people can be useful.
If you approach discussion and argumentation with the intent to learn and not to be right, you can get a lot out of it, even if the person you're arguing with wants to win.
Sure, I would agree with that.
Just a personal thing. My dad is one of the most thick headed people I've ever spoken with, so I categorically just try to avoid talking to a wall when I can.
edit: shit man, the Start9 crew is dominating right now
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i just played against some nearly C- player in my first game of iccup
fucker didnt even make corsairs just sent in speedlots and i killed them with mutas and just 5 hatch hydra terribly into retarded slow ultra ling transition and he never even got a third base
has the standard fallen so low, this is like low D level play
he didnt even have cannons in mineral line but i couldnt multitaks enough so just sent my mutas back to defend
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The worst thing about thick headed people is some of them think they are the most opened minded individuals. They are just always right though. The amount of people that fall under that in university is way too high. Going to a quite liberal university taking political science courses (which i tend to lean liberal on most issues), trying to bring up different points that aren't quite uniform with "liberall ideals and all of sudden you are the devil lol. Being liberal on everything isn't always correct, yet some people get so angry. Lol
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On February 19 2014 04:50 Shelke14 wrote:
The worst thing about thick headed people is some of them think they are the most opened minded individuals. They are just always right though. The amount of people that fall under that in university is way too high. Going to a quite liberal university taking political science courses (which i tend to lean liberal on most issues), trying to bring up different points that aren't quite uniform with "liberall ideals and all of sudden you are the devil lol. Being liberal on everything isn't always correct, yet some people get so angry. Lol
"Whatever you believe is okay with me as long as I agree with it!"
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