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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 20:30:49
February 18 2014 20:30 GMT
#24021
fuck my 2nd game of brood war
lost a semi close zvp
never before has my body felt so inadequate or unprepared
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 20:49:09
February 18 2014 20:47 GMT
#24022
On February 19 2014 05:28 BlackPaladin wrote:
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On February 19 2014 04:50 Shelke14 wrote:
The worst thing about thick headed people is some of them think they are the most opened minded individuals. They are just always right though. The amount of people that fall under that in university is way too high. Going to a quite liberal university taking political science courses (which i tend to lean liberal on most issues), trying to bring up different points that aren't quite uniform with "liberall ideals and all of sudden you are the devil lol. Being liberal on everything isn't always correct, yet some people get so angry. Lol


"Whatever you believe is okay with me as long as I agree with it!"


The worst was in upper level classes where class sizes were anywhere from 8-16 people in round table discussion classes and you were going back and forth on ideas and situations and you were get the heavy left liberal circlejerk that would always happen. Then when trying to show another perspective to the discussion, people would get bent out of shape with you and even after explaining that you actually agree with them but just trying to bring up other ideas instead of only discussing one side people would still try and dig your grave. In the end I found myself just being the right wing individual just in spite of the liberal assholes in the class. It even started to show up in my 15-20 page essays where I started to sound like a self hating liberal. Lol.

Shit sorry about grammar. Mobile posting while working isn't the best to post lol. Try and deal with it the best you can.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 18 2014 20:51 GMT
#24023
On February 19 2014 04:50 Shelke14 wrote:
The worst thing about thick headed people is some of them think they are the most opened minded individuals. They are just always right though. The amount of people that fall under that in university is way too high. Going to a quite liberal university taking political science courses (which i tend to lean liberal on most issues), trying to bring up different points that aren't quite uniform with "liberall ideals and all of sudden you are the devil lol. Being liberal on everything isn't always correct, yet some people get so angry. Lol


I'm so glad I didn't take any poly sci courses, especially at my school. I'm deliberately independent (but, like you, lean "liberal" on many things), and wouldn't be able to stand it.

Pigeonholing yourself to a "side" just completely shuts out any semblance of critical thinking. There is never one correct answer, so why would you want to blind yourself to any other options or perspectives.

Note: this is why things like politics or economics are banned at family gatherings.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 18 2014 20:58 GMT
#24024
After doing some reading on personality types (jungian stuff) watching those kind of interaction is fascinating.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 18 2014 20:58 GMT
#24025
Care to edumacate? I don't know a whole lot about personality type studies.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
February 18 2014 20:59 GMT
#24026
I hate being negative, I met some great individuals who are leaps and bounds smarter than me. But listening to the same rhetoric over and over was mind numbing. Nobody ever disagreed with each other, only kept growing the one side and it just crushed my love for politics. Now the only politics I deal with is telling customers why they should carry my brands and not others. Life is simpler, easier and frankly just better overall. I stay out of all political discussions no matter what and my stress levels don't boil over my head.

(I still have a guilty pleasure of reading political policies and world politics. Just to see what's going on. Even find myself wanting to click Microsoft word to type a quick opinion piece to flush out my thoughts on it but never do. Just go back to seshing games)
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 18 2014 21:02 GMT
#24027
On February 19 2014 05:58 mordek wrote:
After doing some reading on personality types (jungian stuff) watching those kind of interaction is fascinating.

Isn't Jung full of shit because as much as he deviated from Freud he's still nested deep in a false Western tradition of categoricals.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 18 2014 21:02 GMT
#24028
seems like a terrible way to discuss anything, why do people in politics only want to discuss politics with people on the same side as them
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 18 2014 21:04 GMT
#24029
On February 19 2014 06:02 Slayer91 wrote:
seems like a terrible way to discuss anything, why do people in politics only want to discuss politics with people on the same side as them

Cuz circle jerks are fun.
liftlift > tsm
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 21:06:19
February 18 2014 21:05 GMT
#24030
On February 19 2014 06:02 Slayer91 wrote:
seems like a terrible way to discuss anything, why do people in politics only want to discuss politics with people on the same side as them


People like to have their opinions validated, not challenged. This makes it easier to mindlessly follow things instead of having to deal with things as awful as admitting their wrong.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 21:07:50
February 18 2014 21:06 GMT
#24031
On February 19 2014 06:04 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 06:02 Slayer91 wrote:
seems like a terrible way to discuss anything, why do people in politics only want to discuss politics with people on the same side as them

Cuz circle jerks are fun.


source: see the support ww circle jerk
very little real discussion and its not like i didnt try

On February 19 2014 06:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 06:02 Slayer91 wrote:
seems like a terrible way to discuss anything, why do people in politics only want to discuss politics with people on the same side as them


People like to have their opinions validated, not challenged. This makes it easier to mindlessly follow things instead of having to deal with things as awful as admitting their wrong.


i guess its similar to religion, it gives you peace of mind and an area of things in the "sorted out" box so you dont have to worry about them
it's either that, thinking too much about random things or, admitting that there are lots of things that you don't know
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 18 2014 21:13 GMT
#24032
On February 19 2014 06:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 06:02 Slayer91 wrote:
seems like a terrible way to discuss anything, why do people in politics only want to discuss politics with people on the same side as them


People like to have their opinions validated, not challenged. This makes it easier to mindlessly follow things instead of having to deal with things as awful as admitting their wrong.

The only thing worse than being wrong is dealing with Great Epistemic and Existential Fear
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
February 18 2014 21:13 GMT
#24033
Not only that but generally people who actually do discuss politics regularly are often fed up with listening to the exact same rhetoric. Every. Single. Time. Just gets annoying to hear the same arguments constantly. If you disagreed with that argument 100 times over you don't want to hear the same one again. People hold onto their own personal beliefs and morals, and don't want to deviate away from that. There's nothing really wrong with that when it's not too extreme (like not holding the belief to go around sacrificing virgins in volcanoes), but it just makes it so there is this side, and that side, and that side, etc, and none will ever really convince the other and change anything.
It's like some Jehovah's witness coming to your door EVERY day to try to convert you. At some point you just slam the door in their face and don't want to listen anymore.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 18 2014 21:17 GMT
#24034
On February 19 2014 06:02 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 05:58 mordek wrote:
After doing some reading on personality types (jungian stuff) watching those kind of interaction is fascinating.

Isn't Jung full of shit because as much as he deviated from Freud he's still nested deep in a false Western tradition of categoricals.

I haven't researched Jung specifically, just theories derived afterwards. I'm sure there's a lot of psychological debate to be had in regards to the topic, but after reading it a lot of things people do make sense. Beyond MBTI stuff I'm in the middle of a book with a slightly different angle, Please Understand Me.

It's all about insights into people's preferences. It's quite amusing to read through the american politics thread and think an SJ would say that. Yep there's the NF response.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 18 2014 21:24 GMT
#24035
What does everyone read when they see posts? The post first? Who's posting first? Do you glance at their post number? Their icon? Do you subconsciously note where they're "from"? Their signature?
Hey! How you doin'?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 18 2014 21:25 GMT
#24036
On February 19 2014 06:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
What does everyone read when they see posts? The post first? Who's posting first? Do you glance at their post number? Their icon? Do you subconsciously note where they're "from"? Their signature?

First check is to see how long it is. If it's more than like 2 paragraphs I'm probably not reading it unless it's specifically responding to me.

Hence, I've only read maybe 1/14th of Alaric's posts.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 21:28:19
February 18 2014 21:26 GMT
#24037
On February 19 2014 06:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
What does everyone read when they see posts? The post first? Who's posting first? Do you glance at their post number? Their icon? Do you subconsciously note where they're "from"? Their signature?

I read posts first, and for the most part in the threads with a lot of reoccurring people (like this thread and GD), it's pretty obvious who wrote it.
On February 19 2014 06:06 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 06:04 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 19 2014 06:02 Slayer91 wrote:
seems like a terrible way to discuss anything, why do people in politics only want to discuss politics with people on the same side as them

Cuz circle jerks are fun.


source: see the support ww circle jerk
very little real discussion and its not like i didnt try

To be fair, we've had the discussion before, and it's about such a silly topic. What else is there to say, other than "ww support doesn't cuz pre 6 you're fucking useless"
liftlift > tsm
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 18 2014 21:28 GMT
#24038
On February 19 2014 06:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 06:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
What does everyone read when they see posts? The post first? Who's posting first? Do you glance at their post number? Their icon? Do you subconsciously note where they're "from"? Their signature?

I read posts first, and for the most part in the threads with a lot of reoccurring people (like this thread and GD), it's pretty obvious who wrote it.


How's TL+ by the way? Have you used it at all?
Hey! How you doin'?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 18 2014 21:29 GMT
#24039
On February 19 2014 06:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
What does everyone read when they see posts? The post first? Who's posting first? Do you glance at their post number? Their icon? Do you subconsciously note where they're "from"? Their signature?


Generally read first, often the icon sticks out in the corner of my eye and I might have a general idea of who's posting. If it's a long post, I'll scan it quickly for any relevant info I might want to really read (very relevant in this thread - I know almost nothing about JRPGs, so often skip over most of those posts). Poster is sometimes the last thing I look at. I rarely notice sigs unless they stand out for any reason.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 18 2014 21:30 GMT
#24040
On February 19 2014 06:28 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 06:26 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 19 2014 06:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
What does everyone read when they see posts? The post first? Who's posting first? Do you glance at their post number? Their icon? Do you subconsciously note where they're "from"? Their signature?

I read posts first, and for the most part in the threads with a lot of reoccurring people (like this thread and GD), it's pretty obvious who wrote it.


How's TL+ by the way? Have you used it at all?

Filter function is interesting, just to see how much people (including myself) spam a thread. lol.
The TL+ forum is pretty meh, though those Idra comments in the TL+ LoL forum was fun to go through.
No ads are pretty freaking slick too (easily the best part). Thanks <3 my favorite Bronze player.
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