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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35163 Posts
January 25 2014 23:47 GMT
#20321
On January 26 2014 08:17 ticklishmusic wrote:
So, laptop crashed twice in the last couple days. I'm fairly sure its something to do with the hard drive, so I'm going to go ahead and upgrade to a SSD-- looking for 256gigs and under $200, anyone have any suggestions?

This is my laptop:
https://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/U46E/

I upgraded RAM to 12gigs, but that's the only modification. I do a lot of internet browsing, play some games on low settings (not picky about graphics), lots of reading and homework things. Move around a lot cuz college.

12gb ram is pretty excessive for that use.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 26 2014 00:08 GMT
#20322
On January 26 2014 07:36 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 06:03 Tooplark wrote:
Well, Articuno has the 4x weakness to rock. In fact, Articuno's typing is almost strictly worse than Moltres's. The only thing Articuno has over Moltres is a neutrality to Water attacks instead of a weakness.
Articuno's still the best tho. So pretty.

You crushed my logic in no time flat. I'm impressed.

Is this the part where I pledge eternal servitude to Tooplark? You've clearly shown that you are indeed my superior.

Ice can be a better STAB than Fire. Not strictly better.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
January 26 2014 00:12 GMT
#20323
On January 26 2014 09:08 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 07:36 Frudgey wrote:
On January 26 2014 06:03 Tooplark wrote:
Well, Articuno has the 4x weakness to rock. In fact, Articuno's typing is almost strictly worse than Moltres's. The only thing Articuno has over Moltres is a neutrality to Water attacks instead of a weakness.
Articuno's still the best tho. So pretty.

You crushed my logic in no time flat. I'm impressed.

Is this the part where I pledge eternal servitude to Tooplark? You've clearly shown that you are indeed my superior.

Ice can be a better STAB than Fire. Not strictly better.


I guess I should have specified defensive typing. My bad.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 26 2014 00:14 GMT
#20324
Yeah, Ice is single-handedly the worst defensive typing in the game. Weakness to fire and fighting, 2 of the most common attack types, weakness to SR and to add an insult to injury you get wrecked by bulletpunch too
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
January 26 2014 00:16 GMT
#20325
Are fighting types actually that common? I was under the impression that not many people used fighting types. And at least in my experience I don't run into fighting types all that often.

Keep in mind that I have no competitive pokemon experience so I could be spewing madness.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 00:19:06
January 26 2014 00:17 GMT
#20326
Isn't Moltres inferior to Charizard, at least in the early generations, because his moveset isn't as good though? Iirc it's the most terrible of all 3 by the first generation (while Zapdos is best by far just because he's got a decent Flying attack from the start).

^ he's talking about weaknesses, so Fighting-type moves, not fighting-type Pokemons. Iirc Fighting as a good coverage in terms of what it's good against, and it's got a bunch of good moves easy to learn by a wide array of Pokemons.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
January 26 2014 00:26 GMT
#20327
I understand that he meant fighting type moves, but I'm still wondering how often they show up in competitive play. I can easily imagine teaching most psychic Focus Blast (assuming I'm not getting the name of the move messed up) but I can't think of a lot of other fighting moves that are incredibly useful.

I haven't played Pokemon since Black and White, so I'm sure I have a lot of blind spots in my knowledge.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 26 2014 00:31 GMT
#20328
On January 26 2014 09:16 Frudgey wrote:
Are fighting types actually that common? I was under the impression that not many people used fighting types. And at least in my experience I don't run into fighting types all that often.

Keep in mind that I have no competitive pokemon experience so I could be spewing madness.

Fighting types run rampant in the UU and lower tiers, which is also where many Ice types are since they're also not good enough for OU. But the Fighting Type Pokemon in OU aren't any slouch either (Lucario, Toxicroak, etc.) and will mess you up hard.

In terms of Fighting moves, there's a lot of them around especially since a lot of Pokemon will pick up TM moves like FOcus Blast for extra type coverage.

On January 26 2014 09:17 Alaric wrote:
Isn't Moltres inferior to Charizard, at least in the early generations, because his moveset isn't as good though? Iirc it's the most terrible of all 3 by the first generation (while Zapdos is best by far just because he's got a decent Flying attack from the start).

^ he's talking about weaknesses, so Fighting-type moves, not fighting-type Pokemons. Iirc Fighting as a good coverage in terms of what it's good against, and it's got a bunch of good moves easy to learn by a wide array of Pokemons.

Correct, Moltress is inferior to Charizard. Even though it picked up Hurricane in Gen V, it's still a shallow pool of moves. Gen VI isn't that much kinder since Charizard can now mega-evolve (and has two mega-evolutions) which makes it much more attractive.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 26 2014 00:45 GMT
#20329
On January 26 2014 08:47 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 08:17 ticklishmusic wrote:
So, laptop crashed twice in the last couple days. I'm fairly sure its something to do with the hard drive, so I'm going to go ahead and upgrade to a SSD-- looking for 256gigs and under $200, anyone have any suggestions?

This is my laptop:
https://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/U46E/

I upgraded RAM to 12gigs, but that's the only modification. I do a lot of internet browsing, play some games on low settings (not picky about graphics), lots of reading and homework things. Move around a lot cuz college.

12gb ram is pretty excessive for that use.


Eh

I run a lot of stuff in the background too, plus I used to do a lot of stuff with video editing w/ vegas

Trying to put together a backup right now though, hopefully it turns out ok
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 26 2014 01:11 GMT
#20330
It is weird to hear that Charizard outclasses Moltres :D I played gen4 for the grand majority of my pokemon career and that is the one gen where Moltres was way better than Charizard
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
January 26 2014 01:14 GMT
#20331
Charizard outclasses everything be real please
Stay positive!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35163 Posts
January 26 2014 01:15 GMT
#20332
On January 26 2014 10:14 remedium wrote:
Charizard outclasses everything be real please

Fire/Dragon stronk as fuck.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 01:29:13
January 26 2014 01:28 GMT
#20333
Blissey is the Teemo of Pokemon

Use Toxic, then evasion and defense buffs, let other guy to poison. Use your heal when he actually hits you. So broken.

Does that still work in the new generations?
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
January 26 2014 01:29 GMT
#20334
On January 26 2014 10:15 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 10:14 remedium wrote:
Charizard outclasses everything be real please

Fire/Dragon stronk as fuck.

Technically he's Flying/Fire unless you count one of the Mega Evolutions from X or Y, in which case one of them is Fire/Dragon.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
January 26 2014 01:31 GMT
#20335
On January 26 2014 10:28 ticklishmusic wrote:
Blissey is the Teemo of Pokemon

Use Toxic, then evasion and defense buffs, let other guy to poison. Use your heal when he actually hits you. So broken.

Does that still work in the new generations?


Well, most competitive battlers agree not to use evasion boosting moves, and defense boosting moves are rarely seen because crits ignore all the defense boosts. But yes, that still does work.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 01:36:06
January 26 2014 01:35 GMT
#20336
On January 26 2014 10:28 ticklishmusic wrote:
Blissey is the Teemo of Pokemon

Use Toxic, then evasion and defense buffs, let other guy to poison. Use your heal when he actually hits you. So broken.

Does that still work in the new generations?

Blissey is still good and maintains the privileged positions of being one of the few OU Pokemone that is viable in Ubers. However the changes from Gen IV changed a lot of things. The two main changes that hurt her were the change in physical/special damage no long being type dependant (so SpA attackers can now blast at her with Fighting type moves and a lot of Pokemon suddenly became good) and the increase in +2 stat moves which allowed for stat-up-and-sweep Pokemon that didn't need to use BP chains to get to the same level of power quickly. For stall-based teams in Gen V onwards, there's also been a greater move towards type resistance rather than pure defensive stats since the threat of entry hazards setting up a sudden sweep makes pure sponges not that great. Blissey also has competition from Evoilite Chansey too.

EDIT: And as Tooplark stated, Evasion clause means no one should be using Evasion boosting moves...
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 26 2014 01:58 GMT
#20337
What do entry hazards have to do with it? Because they deal fixed damage regardless of stats so stat-oriented sponges get wrecked in the long term if the meta favors switching Pokemons a lot?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
January 26 2014 02:14 GMT
#20338
On January 26 2014 10:58 Alaric wrote:
What do entry hazards have to do with it? Because they deal fixed damage regardless of stats so stat-oriented sponges get wrecked in the long term if the meta favors switching Pokemons a lot?


Here's what happens:
No hazards, switch in sponge. Enemy hits sponge for 50%, leftovers heals sponge to 56%. Next turn enemy hits sponge for 50%, sponge uses a healing move, recovers to 56%, leftovers heals sponge to 63%.
With hazards, switch in sponge. Stealth rock takes off 12%, enemy hits sponge for 50%, leftovers heals sponge to 48%. Next turn enemy hits sponge for 50% and KOs.

That's obviously oversimplified, but it makes a difference a surprising amount of the time.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
January 26 2014 02:16 GMT
#20339
nerds

digimon was the shit
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 02:19:13
January 26 2014 02:18 GMT
#20340
digimon are the champions.

saw an episode of yugioh this morning. I'll play this card face down. Aha! you forget about my swords of revealing light!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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