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New inhouse logistics TBD. In the meantime, feel free to hang out in the league general discord https://discord.gg/0lCEKA3jUEFxERzd ("add lol" in #welcome) and get some ad-hoc games going!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 06 2013 17:02 GMT
#1341
Elise/Shen/Ezreal/Fiddle/Quinn
(me, sylverfyre, ChoBz, Zdrastochye, CelestialChips)

vs

Ashe/Nocturne/Kayle/Irelia/Thresh
(KissBlade, Roffles, Soloside, Aura, Magnuswolf)

Teams are imbalanced skill-wise but I wanted to roll with it anyway.

1: The draft
I think we got outdrafted. No synergy except possibly Shen/Quinn. None of our lanes are particularly strong, nor do we have any particular advantage. On the other hand, their team has really good pickoff potential.
I should probably have picked Shyvana like I was planning to. With Elise, I felt like I had to make something happen early; Shen/Irelia was the most gankable lane, whereas Ez/Kayle and the Quinn lane were pretty difficult. Kayle ganks would have to happen pre-6, and I would need a lot more levels on Fiddle fear, so maybe level 4/5-ish.
I think having Shyvana's damage and dueling ability, as well as some synergy with Fiddle would've helped a lot more than the pickoff potential that Elise had.

2: The game
I majorly fucked up the first engagement. Purple side, Blue to Red, level 3 gank on Irelia. I get in the bush, and Nocturne is heading up. I thought I was in human form, so I tried to hit my rotation of cocoon, neurotoxin, spiderling, Spiderform, frenzy, venomous bite. Unfortunately, I was in spider form, so I rappeled and I turned a winning fight into a losing one. None of us died although Shen was behind since the creep wave was at his tower.
As soon as I respawned I wanted to target Irelia to relieve some pressure, so I did and got a good chunk of damage.
I moved to wraiths and planned on doing another drive-by, this time on Kayle, but Noct was there... and he was level 5 when I was barely about to hit level 4.
At that point I felt pretty useless. The lanes were hard to gank, I was outfarmed and Noct could probably 1v1 me in the jungle, and once Noct's global was up, counterganking would be pretty hard (if it wasn't hard enough, because he outfarmed me).
In the end, top snowballed after a missed taunt under tower, bot got ganked by Nocturne, and it took off from there. I also finished with less money than support.

Other than champ pick and my ugly engagement top, I'm not sure if I could've done anything else.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 06 2013 17:43 GMT
#1342
JayBrundage plz. What was that TF play.
God Bless
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
September 06 2013 17:47 GMT
#1343
He tried to clear the minions so Cait wouldn't be creep blocked and would arrive a half second faster. You guys just can't see the genius.
Stay positive!
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
September 06 2013 18:57 GMT
#1344
On September 06 2013 17:40 DURRHURRDERP wrote:


NA LCS level play in a TL inhouse game.

Oh God. A-move to op T_T
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
September 06 2013 20:43 GMT
#1345
On September 07 2013 02:02 kainzero wrote:
Elise/Shen/Ezreal/Fiddle/Quinn
(me, sylverfyre, ChoBz, Zdrastochye, CelestialChips)

vs

Ashe/Nocturne/Kayle/Irelia/Thresh
(KissBlade, Roffles, Soloside, Aura, Magnuswolf)

Teams are imbalanced skill-wise but I wanted to roll with it anyway.

1: The draft
I think we got outdrafted. No synergy except possibly Shen/Quinn. None of our lanes are particularly strong, nor do we have any particular advantage. On the other hand, their team has really good pickoff potential.
I should probably have picked Shyvana like I was planning to. With Elise, I felt like I had to make something happen early; Shen/Irelia was the most gankable lane, whereas Ez/Kayle and the Quinn lane were pretty difficult. Kayle ganks would have to happen pre-6, and I would need a lot more levels on Fiddle fear, so maybe level 4/5-ish.
I think having Shyvana's damage and dueling ability, as well as some synergy with Fiddle would've helped a lot more than the pickoff potential that Elise had.

2: The game
I majorly fucked up the first engagement. Purple side, Blue to Red, level 3 gank on Irelia. I get in the bush, and Nocturne is heading up. I thought I was in human form, so I tried to hit my rotation of cocoon, neurotoxin, spiderling, Spiderform, frenzy, venomous bite. Unfortunately, I was in spider form, so I rappeled and I turned a winning fight into a losing one. None of us died although Shen was behind since the creep wave was at his tower.
As soon as I respawned I wanted to target Irelia to relieve some pressure, so I did and got a good chunk of damage.
I moved to wraiths and planned on doing another drive-by, this time on Kayle, but Noct was there... and he was level 5 when I was barely about to hit level 4.
At that point I felt pretty useless. The lanes were hard to gank, I was outfarmed and Noct could probably 1v1 me in the jungle, and once Noct's global was up, counterganking would be pretty hard (if it wasn't hard enough, because he outfarmed me).
In the end, top snowballed after a missed taunt under tower, bot got ganked by Nocturne, and it took off from there. I also finished with less money than support.

Other than champ pick and my ugly engagement top, I'm not sure if I could've done anything else.


For the record, I wouldn't have minded a Shyvana pick with our comp, especially if it's a champ you're more comfortable on (which I will assume based on your willingness to suggest it) but I think I was the only other one on our team to be fine with her being picked.

Since I was the one who picked the unbalanced teams I sincerely don't think the game was out of our hands if we played correctly. I had a fail flash on their first ashe arrow + noct ult on me, top lane struggled after the fail gank, and as you mentioned you didn't have an easy time ganking after that, along with Noct just forcing duels with you that you know you would lose.

Sylver admitted he was uncomfortable with me suggesting what was unfair teams, but I will stubbornly believe that we weren't out of that game from level 1. Maybe I'm wrong.
Hey! How you doin'?
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
September 06 2013 23:32 GMT
#1346
One conversation with my female roommates about how much they miss their cable and a powerline adapter later, I'm back online!

[image loading]
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 06 2013 23:44 GMT
#1347
not to spam, but now retrospectively i think i should have posted in HERE that i'm streaming inhouses, not in my own stream page
www.twitch.tv/iamguitar
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
September 07 2013 00:07 GMT
#1348
On September 07 2013 08:44 gtrsrs wrote:
not to spam, but now retrospectively i think i should have posted in HERE that i'm streaming inhouses, not in my own stream page
www.twitch.tv/iamguitar

why not both :D
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 00:37:14
September 07 2013 00:37 GMT
#1349
Can we get some rotation going on please? I played in 1 out of 5 and I been sitting in channel for 2 hours. Some have been in all 5
Moderatorgold coin
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 07 2013 00:37 GMT
#1350
GG guys, thanks for the games. I think I've improved a good amount since I started playing in these, or at the very least my play has become more consistent
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2450 Posts
September 07 2013 00:48 GMT
#1351
Hi all~
[Registration]
- Ingame name:: Nunbushin
- Rank and division: Silver 1
- The roles I want to improve:
Mid: Lux, Orianna
ADC: Ezreal, Caitlyn
Sup: Janna, Sona,


Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 07 2013 03:37 GMT
#1352
On September 07 2013 09:37 Ares[Effort] wrote:
Can we get some rotation going on please? I played in 1 out of 5 and I been sitting in channel for 2 hours. Some have been in all 5


What I did was just make a game when I was in the lobby while waiting and let it fill with people first. It keeps the rotation much fresher.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 03:59:11
September 07 2013 03:56 GMT
#1353
I need alot more practice on Lee Sin jungle lol

At least I got to steal my first Baron ^^

I also failed an "inSec" on Vayne
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
September 07 2013 04:00 GMT
#1354
On September 07 2013 09:48 mel_ee wrote:
Hi all~
[Registration]
- Ingame name:: Nunbushin
- Rank and division: Silver 1
- The roles I want to improve:
Mid: Lux, Orianna
ADC: Ezreal, Caitlyn
Sup: Janna, Sona,




Was fun playing with you, hopefully you stick around. Hopefully I'm not to troll for you!
Hey! How you doin'?
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
September 07 2013 06:12 GMT
#1355
If anyone has this on video it is funny :D

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Stay positive!
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 07 2013 06:21 GMT
#1356
SORRY TO EVERYONE ON MY TEAM

HAWAII INTERNET BLOWS AND SO DO I
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
September 07 2013 06:23 GMT
#1357
Registration
- bìrdkicker

- Diamond 2 (i guess d1 too cool for me or something)
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
September 07 2013 06:55 GMT
#1358
On September 07 2013 15:12 remedium wrote:
If anyone has this on video it is funny :D

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



^ relevant:
[image loading]
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 07 2013 08:09 GMT
#1359
Random Tangent:

People should be more selfish in the IHs. I don't mean you should all be jerks, but that when champion select starts you should have a clear idea of what you want to play. There's nothing more difficult for those of us who usually drive the "What the hell are we banning/picking?" discussion than to have four people who all don't care what they're playing.

If four people all say, "I want to jungle." AWESOME. We at least know there's a problem and we can be like, "Well you can't all jungle." and figure things out. When you all say, "Whatever." the time that would normally get spent working out what sort of a team composition/plan we want gets spent figuring out who is doing what role.

This is all compounded by the fact that people tend to spend the ban phase talking about other stuff rather than the game at hand, if they're even at their keyboard.

tl;dr: Throw your team a bone and pick a role, conflicts be damned.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
September 07 2013 08:29 GMT
#1360
On September 07 2013 17:09 Seuss wrote:
Random Tangent:

People should be more selfish in the IHs. I don't mean you should all be jerks, but that when champion select starts you should have a clear idea of what you want to play. There's nothing more difficult for those of us who usually drive the "What the hell are we banning/picking?" discussion than to have four people who all don't care what they're playing.

If four people all say, "I want to jungle." AWESOME. We at least know there's a problem and we can be like, "Well you can't all jungle." and figure things out. When you all say, "Whatever." the time that would normally get spent working out what sort of a team composition/plan we want gets spent figuring out who is doing what role.

This is all compounded by the fact that people tend to spend the ban phase talking about other stuff rather than the game at hand, if they're even at their keyboard.

tl;dr: Throw your team a bone and pick a role, conflicts be damned.

Yea I always call out. But on the other hand I like our random conversations pre-pick. There usually something off topic but there fun :D
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
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