[NA IHs] Running at Dusk - Page 21

On August 09 2013 16:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
Played two inhouses for the first time in a week and it looks like things are really well run in my absence. I hope everyone is continuing to learn from these games. ^_^

On August 10 2013 03:24 Anakko wrote:
Regarding yesterday's (this morning's) game, I was the one playing Kennen in the lane swap.

So basically i went botlane against Ezreal/leona, starting bead/5 pots/ward. Thinking back, Dblade might have helped more, since i was so zoned out that i didn't even get to use my pots, and Dblade could've helped me in case of tower dive. Thoughts?

Also, I got completely zoned out. Like, Ez and leona froze the lane a little before river on their side, and i litteraly couldn't get close with leona sitting in the bottom bush. So scared. I guess I wasted a lot of time sitting around and sorta trying to get in xp range, but the creep wave was just too far in the lane. Wat should I do in that case? When top turret fell and we rotated, I was lvl 4 with about 15 cs, and top nid was lvl 6 with about 30. Rough times were had. I sorta stayed in the game even 60 cs behind because i got lucky enough to pick up the kill every time my lane was ganked, so i ended up in that awkward place of being 5-1-5 and starved/behind in gold/xp.

So nidalee just rolled over me with her BotRK (someone watched OGN, lol), and we lost the game because we needed 3-4 ppl to deal with her.

Was there a way it could have gone differently? (Considering if I had laned nid from the start, I probably would have fed her quite a bit and the game might've ended sooner, lol)

On August 10 2013 06:39 NeoIllusions wrote:

Were you in TeamSpeak? We had a postgame discussion about the match and the general consensus was that for your opening buy, you should have gotten Shield+pot and just stay in experience range. Try to last hit with Q if possible and definitely avoid any initiation by Leona.

You still managed to get a Zhonya's in reasonable amount a time (esp due to your tough lanes bot and top) so you did what was needed in terms of team fights. The biggest problem was map control for your team, the crux of it being Nidalee. Even though your team got the first turret, my team took every Dragon and actually convert even more turrets after we got kills. There was just a really poor response to Nidalee solo split pushing and while you guys got kills on DURR, it usually took more than half your team and nothing else happened for you guys once you killed Nid.

Team fights also could have gone a little better. Despite the Rengar pick, Humming did a solid job nullifying Swim, our ADC Ez. But our two (maybe three, if you counted me) sources of damage still carried us through in 5v5s.

Edit: to expand on the objective conversions: my team either solo'd or I jumped bot and got a kill on Graves, we'd get Dragon afterwards. Your team killed Nidalee then everyone based. My team roams as 4 while Nid Top, we get aced in a bad engage, we still got top inhib, you guys still based. I don't remember what your health was after the team fight, for example, but only 1, maybe 2, champions should have been sent back to deal with Nid. After such a major team fight win, you need to get more turrets and/or steal buffs.
Edit2: I just realized that I didn't save screenshots from either of the two games from last night, fk. So yeah, please remember to screenshoot so we can look at item builds. Those usually tell a lot about the game.

On August 10 2013 10:04 Pooshlmer wrote:
Neo does not care about TI3