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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 16 2013 22:34 GMT
#2421
Okay, if you want real advice. Spec into biscuit and free map hack. Place free map hack in water and then burn your fucking biscuit.

That'll show who's boss.
God Bless
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 16 2013 22:40 GMT
#2422
Keep the off-topic chat in Off-Topic. Thanks.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
GozoShioda
Profile Joined October 2013
205 Posts
October 16 2013 22:53 GMT
#2423
Registration
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remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
October 16 2013 23:10 GMT
#2424
On October 17 2013 05:55 Pooshlmer wrote:
What have I done.

To try to yank this on topic, the last game I played last night I get wrecked by DURR's Lee ganking us repeatedly. I only had tribrush warded (was purple), where else should I have put one? What should I have done differently?


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Key to basic warding, Purple side-->

Red: if you are pushing, these are essential to prevent getting ravaged.

Pink: if you are being pushed into your tower, these are important to prevent getting ravaged.

1) Typically placed by mid or jungle, allows you to see obvious roam bot from midlane, and invades into your own area.

2) Dragon eyes, and gives you decent warning of a gank from the river.

3) Critical if you are pushing and the enemy can conceivably be near you. This is the one you placed.

4) Very useful if you are being pushed under tower and need some eyes on the river. Can be placed from point L with practice, for maximum safety (aim your cursor slightly above the lamppost, may take a few tries).

5) Life saving "we are being pushed super hard and don't have tons of HP" ward. Can spot dives and save you/turn them into kills.

6) Being pushed in and need a ward in lane? Put it here.

7) Anticipating a possible lane gank and the minions are about to push back towards you? Ward here.

Basic guide, hope it helps. If anyone has comments please don't be shy.
Stay positive!
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 00:10:03
October 17 2013 00:05 GMT
#2425
wtf where is everyone today @_@

(start 9pmEST/10pmish?)

People should log on at 9EST just to bs about WCG Korea rerun =O
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
October 17 2013 00:12 GMT
#2426
On October 17 2013 05:55 Pooshlmer wrote:
What have I done.

To try to yank this on topic, the last game I played last night I get wrecked by DURR's Lee ganking us repeatedly. I only had tribrush warded (was purple), where else should I have put one? What should I have done differently?

Popular junglers right now (lee, j4, vi, aatrox, eve) are really good at lane ganking due to high mobilitymixed with cc, so cover yourself there. Also get mid to ward both sides and make a habit of calling mid roams as support. It's helpful to your whole team
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 17 2013 06:43 GMT
#2427
Watching KissBlade vs Omnom is like watching Bucket Loli vs Captain Ginyu in Saltybets.
God Bless
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 17 2013 06:43 GMT
#2428
YO Bucket Loli all in got me out of the mines.
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
October 17 2013 07:34 GMT
#2429
)=
im deaf
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 07:48:53
October 17 2013 07:48 GMT
#2430
Tbh Wasabi and I were hyped as hell during the last five mins when we thought we could legit win it lol.

Esport bucks too OP motivation.
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
October 17 2013 08:05 GMT
#2431
you're welcome for all the plays
im deaf
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 17 2013 08:08 GMT
#2432
On October 17 2013 15:43 Roffles wrote:
Watching KissBlade vs Omnom is like watching Bucket Loli vs Captain Ginyu in Saltybets.


I don't really frequent the games too much, and haven't observed any games in a bit. So with that, I have a quick question. Have you lot started doing 1v1s between people when there are not enough online for a full game? It should be helpful for quite a lot of people.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 17 2013 10:27 GMT
#2433
I don't think 1v1s are a very good judge of a player's ability at all and I think practicing it creates very bad habits that will own you in games.

The lack of jungler is really a huge thing because it changes the whole dynamic. You can't do things like call for cover in your lane while you shop or check someone playing stupidly aggressive by ganking them.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
October 17 2013 10:48 GMT
#2434
As long as you understand the things you can learn in 1v1s do not apply directly to real games (aka the smarter players), I think it's fine to practice 1v1s.

If two people go even in last hits with some champion matchup, but then someone else comes and crushes the other dude silly with the same matchup, it's clear that there's a difference in skill. These situations won't come up ALL the time, but you will certainly run into these situations where having experience in 1v1s helps a lot.

And most players in inhouses lack basic lane control anyway (and last hitting) so they can fix that too.

Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 17 2013 14:09 GMT
#2435
It's fairly rare for someone to completely get crushed in lane as if they just got OMG 3v1-ed. Most of the time they come out of lane with a not insurmountable deficit. If basic lane control or cs is something you need to work on I think just playing a custom would be better.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
GozoShioda
Profile Joined October 2013
205 Posts
October 17 2013 14:38 GMT
#2436
these inhouses were rly fun

re-invigorated my spirit for comptetition
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 17 2013 14:51 GMT
#2437
A wild Durr smurf appeared
Bronze player stuck in platinum
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
October 17 2013 14:51 GMT
#2438
Where do you ward in top lane? This has always been a dilemma for me.

River bush ward is usually way too late to warn of ganks.
Tribush ward is useless against a river gank or someone that can get over Baron wall.
River ward (near entrance to blue) is useless against tribush gank.

I usually try to compromise by placing one ward between river bush and tribush, but it's not a great solution. Do I just buy two wards as top?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 17 2013 14:54 GMT
#2439
On October 17 2013 23:51 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Where do you ward in top lane? This has always been a dilemma for me.

River bush ward is usually way too late to warn of ganks.
Tribush ward is useless against a river gank or someone that can get over Baron wall.
River ward (near entrance to blue) is useless against tribush gank.

I usually try to compromise by placing one ward between river bush and tribush, but it's not a great solution. Do I just buy two wards as top?


Blue entrance ward is probably the best, but you're right about the tribush problem. The best solution IS just to buy two wards, but if you play very warily and avoid "conspicuous" engages (only you know what this means to you) then just run like fk as soon as you see someone come from tri I THINK you can avoid dying. But you can't be sure.

honestly the answer to this is "Hope your jungler is taking advantage of the other one at top by countering or getting other lanes fed." Luckily, unless you're playing a super-carry top (like Jax or something) you can eat a few early deaths and still get pretty powerful (obviously this is super game to game dependent).
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 15:48:40
October 17 2013 15:47 GMT
#2440
On October 17 2013 23:54 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:51 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Where do you ward in top lane? This has always been a dilemma for me.

River bush ward is usually way too late to warn of ganks.
Tribush ward is useless against a river gank or someone that can get over Baron wall.
River ward (near entrance to blue) is useless against tribush gank.

I usually try to compromise by placing one ward between river bush and tribush, but it's not a great solution. Do I just buy two wards as top?


Blue entrance ward is probably the best, but you're right about the tribush problem. The best solution IS just to buy two wards, but if you play very warily and avoid "conspicuous" engages (only you know what this means to you) then just run like fk as soon as you see someone come from tri I THINK you can avoid dying. But you can't be sure.

honestly the answer to this is "Hope your jungler is taking advantage of the other one at top by countering or getting other lanes fed." Luckily, unless you're playing a super-carry top (like Jax or something) you can eat a few early deaths and still get pretty powerful (obviously this is super game to game dependent).

No, the answer is that you ward your area and have the mid laner also ward the entrance to your jungle on the left side. This way you'll know if he's coming around as well as if he's setting up shop top.

Despite what some may say, warding is not optional and not your opinion.
God Bless
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