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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 11 2013 07:37 GMT
#2281
On October 11 2013 16:18 Navi wrote:
roffles taunt will live forever in my heart
RIP 10/10 taunt king hotshot is overtaken
baited and outsmarted by fake gg

Reported for BM. Cya in the tribunal.
God Bless
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
October 11 2013 07:40 GMT
#2282
On October 11 2013 16:33 silencefc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 16:18 Roffles wrote:
On October 11 2013 10:22 silencefc wrote:
Team comp overrated. Pick to Win Lane-Win Game.

Unless you're the jungler; then you're the bitch that picks around the team.

Doggy 2sang, why u change ur name. Poison Ivy. Bitch plz that ain't you.


I should change it to eesang.


yisang plis
love dat romanticization yo
Hey! Listen!
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 08:00:20
October 11 2013 07:57 GMT
#2283
On October 11 2013 16:40 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 16:33 silencefc wrote:
On October 11 2013 16:18 Roffles wrote:
On October 11 2013 10:22 silencefc wrote:
Team comp overrated. Pick to Win Lane-Win Game.

Unless you're the jungler; then you're the bitch that picks around the team.

Doggy 2sang, why u change ur name. Poison Ivy. Bitch plz that ain't you.


I should change it to eesang.


yisang plis
love dat romanticization yo


Eh, last name is Lee/이, I just took the "ee" and the first syllable of my Korean name, Sang/상.

Blame the immigration authorities that decided 이 = Lee.

Ps. Not my fault you guys were saying 상 wrong.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 11 2013 08:03 GMT
#2284
I am never playing Rumble again, fuck that champion, and i hate whoever picked it by accident so I had to play it
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 11 2013 08:11 GMT
#2285
On October 11 2013 17:03 Vonthin wrote:
I am never playing Rumble again, fuck that champion, and i hate whoever picked it by accident so I had to play it

Blame Navi

You did pretty well though!
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 08:15:12
October 11 2013 08:12 GMT
#2286
On October 11 2013 17:11 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 17:03 Vonthin wrote:
I am never playing Rumble again, fuck that champion, and i hate whoever picked it by accident so I had to play it

Blame Navi

You did pretty well though!


My cs was really bad
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 08:21:31
October 11 2013 08:18 GMT
#2287
On October 11 2013 17:12 Vonthin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 17:11 xes wrote:
On October 11 2013 17:03 Vonthin wrote:
I am never playing Rumble again, fuck that champion, and i hate whoever picked it by accident so I had to play it

Blame Navi

You did pretty well though!


My cs was really bad



I think that had more to do with roffles getting fed 2 kills + double buffs going in lane against you ...

On a side note. Tonight's games were really fun but one thing I should tell newcomers who are silver/bronze is that you really shouldn't be afraid of feeding or whiffing skill shots, etc. You just have to "go for it" sometimes because otherwise you start ceding small advantages that snowball but you never really improve because you just end up playing into your own comfort zone. (I'm actually guilty of this myself so it's ironic I'm saying this =( ) For example, I forget whom, but there was a Gragas on one of my teams tonight who held his ult because he was afraid of missing it when it was our strat was mostly designed around it as a pick. Like sure, you might end up botching it and costing us the game but ultimately you just have to try it. No one is going to blame a silver/bronze in these games for feeding. Heck, even golds don't really get flak for a poor performance. (Except me =( )
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
October 11 2013 08:23 GMT
#2288
If lane swaps aren't allowed, I think lvl 1's should be discouraged. People don't get to learn that much when their opponent walks into lane with at least +400 gold and knows how to abuse it.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 11 2013 08:27 GMT
#2289
To be honest, levels ones do happen a fair amount in actual ranked so I think they're fine as they are. There are times when they feel a bit too "cheese" because of how fast the lanes can be decided by them but a majority of levels ones teach more about defense and warding than anything else IMO.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 11 2013 08:39 GMT
#2290
I think it's more productive to play with no lvl 1 invades, and once in a while just play 10 lvl1 situations 4 minutes each over and over
localized training yo
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 11 2013 14:17 GMT
#2291
On October 11 2013 17:39 SagaZ wrote:
I think it's more productive to play with no lvl 1 invades, and once in a while just play 10 lvl1 situations 4 minutes each over and over
localized training yo


Just don't invite BP.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 11 2013 14:20 GMT
#2292
On October 11 2013 17:39 SagaZ wrote:
I think it's more productive to play with no lvl 1 invades, and once in a while just play 10 lvl1 situations 4 minutes each over and over
localized training yo


On October 11 2013 23:17 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 17:39 SagaZ wrote:
I think it's more productive to play with no lvl 1 invades, and once in a while just play 10 lvl1 situations 4 minutes each over and over
localized training yo


Just don't invite BP.


Both valid suggestions.
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upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
October 11 2013 14:25 GMT
#2293
On October 11 2013 17:23 silencefc wrote:
If lane swaps aren't allowed, I think lvl 1's should be discouraged. People don't get to learn that much when their opponent walks into lane with at least +400 gold and knows how to abuse it.

I mean, learning how to manage situations like that as a team is good practice though. If solo queue is any indication, most people just feed when this happens. It's a tough and matchup-reliant decision to camp that lane or throw the lane to the wolves at the cost of focusing elsewhere.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
October 11 2013 15:05 GMT
#2294
On October 11 2013 17:18 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 17:12 Vonthin wrote:
On October 11 2013 17:11 xes wrote:
On October 11 2013 17:03 Vonthin wrote:
I am never playing Rumble again, fuck that champion, and i hate whoever picked it by accident so I had to play it

Blame Navi

You did pretty well though!


My cs was really bad



I think that had more to do with roffles getting fed 2 kills + double buffs going in lane against you ...

On a side note. Tonight's games were really fun but one thing I should tell newcomers who are silver/bronze is that you really shouldn't be afraid of feeding or whiffing skill shots, etc. You just have to "go for it" sometimes because otherwise you start ceding small advantages that snowball but you never really improve because you just end up playing into your own comfort zone. (I'm actually guilty of this myself so it's ironic I'm saying this =( ) For example, I forget whom, but there was a Gragas on one of my teams tonight who held his ult because he was afraid of missing it when it was our strat was mostly designed around it as a pick. Like sure, you might end up botching it and costing us the game but ultimately you just have to try it. No one is going to blame a silver/bronze in these games for feeding. Heck, even golds don't really get flak for a poor performance. (Except me =( )

I was so mad at myself for not being aggressive enough as Ez in the first place.

Then Roffles happened.
ppp
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
October 11 2013 15:30 GMT
#2295
On October 11 2013 16:57 silencefc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 16:40 Navi wrote:
On October 11 2013 16:33 silencefc wrote:
On October 11 2013 16:18 Roffles wrote:
On October 11 2013 10:22 silencefc wrote:
Team comp overrated. Pick to Win Lane-Win Game.

Unless you're the jungler; then you're the bitch that picks around the team.

Doggy 2sang, why u change ur name. Poison Ivy. Bitch plz that ain't you.


I should change it to eesang.


yisang plis
love dat romanticization yo


Eh, last name is Lee/이, I just took the "ee" and the first syllable of my Korean name, Sang/상.

Blame the immigration authorities that decided 이 = Lee.

Ps. Not my fault you guys were saying 상 wrong.


how else will u make the shitty master yi puns?

i think there is a lot to learn from early invades. for instance last night there were many more ways we could have secured the sona fb without counterkill (karthus flash exhaust, flashing over the wall faster to follow) and i think each of those experiences is valuable. likewise for opponents the uncertainty of knowing the enemy's movements is a really vital part of the game and falls into the general notion of "expecting the worst" that i feel a lot of new players are lacking (being careful of warding when someone could be in a bush, etc.)

in general i dont think there should be too many "official rules" per se. i understand why neo made the rules he did regarding laneswaps 'troll' picks etc., but i think you should be able to expect more out of TLers and their intelligence. if someone is truly uncomfortable in a 1v2 situation, that should be brought up in champion select.
Hey! Listen!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 15:36:55
October 11 2013 15:36 GMT
#2296
i was playing the 2v1 as the 2 and I didn't even know what to do half the time. I wasn't sure whether to just push the tower extra hard or zone the shen or what
Bronze player stuck in platinum
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
October 11 2013 15:56 GMT
#2297
Doing a 2v1 does nothing for the vast majority of players in these IHs. Preparing golds, plats, bronzes, silvers, and mid-low diamonds for a scenario that they will never encounter does not help them improve at all. I would rather have 1vs1 lanes where we can build on fundamental laning skills and get advice on matchups, sure you can tell them what to do and how to respond, act or whatever in a 2vs1 lane but there are still fundamental problems in mechanics and understanding of the limit on their heroes that can only be built on by learning how to lane 1vs1 intitially. Not to mention the vast skill difference between enemy laners[i.e one top laner being plat while the other is silver or in the ADC/Supp]can causing the 2vs1 to go straight down the drain. I've played 1k games that have bounced between high and low diamond and I've encountered lane swaps twice. The troll pick rule I can understand that people want more leeway.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 16:27:46
October 11 2013 16:25 GMT
#2298
fair enough. it's more or less up to the players to decide, sounds unpopular enough
i respect the userbase's intelligence as to be capable to learn from those experiences even if they wont encounter them frequently though
relative power level etc. is much more tangible and immediately relevant in laneswap scenarios and feels like that general sense of when / why / how to engage is the most lacking thing from the vast majority of players here, so would be an interesting exercise to improve that quickly (when to dive, when to fight teamfights with lower level toplaners, etc.)
Hey! Listen!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 11 2013 16:47 GMT
#2299
Honestly, with us doing games every day, learning how to 2v1 would be great for the gold+ players who frequent these games.

It'd be neat if we had a day of the week sectioned off as being the day 2v1's is okay, and practiced it on that day specifically.


Also, when the IH's started I was bouncing around Gold, I am now Plat 3. TY IH's and Navi TY.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 16:54:29
October 11 2013 16:53 GMT
#2300
np bby.

i think 2v1 is kind of similar to level 1 invades and the benefits both will give u - level 1 invades will teach you where to ward, how to be decisive in your play (instant flash follow ups pls)

similarly 2v1s you need to know when you're at risk of getting dived when you're the 1v2 (and knowing where to ward to be certain of this - having your support ward their jungle to track movements of the 2 to see if you can be 1v2 in the first place is important if you want to try to dodge it in the first place) and how to play the dives on both the aggressor and defense side. likewise jungle rotations are critical for both sides - its possible to outplay the 3v2 and 2v3, that kind of trial and error is nice.
it also forces u to actually think about rotations and paths, which i think works that latent game and arranged map movement sense that is not really emphasized in ranked and i think which is what most players want / need to improve in these IHs.
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