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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 10 2013 15:28 GMT
#2261
On October 10 2013 18:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 06:42 Nos- wrote:
Milo doesn't rage he just laughs at you

Not true, Milo only rages at you if he thinks you're good

In other words, get on my level

It's a badge of honor
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
October 10 2013 18:59 GMT
#2262
Registration
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"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#2263
On October 10 2013 21:37 IamPryda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 14:19 KissBlade wrote:
On October 10 2013 14:15 sylverfyre wrote:
On October 10 2013 13:57 KissBlade wrote:
=( He didn't record the games I won after that >_>

The game on Syndra where you were 6-6-10 with a 44% kill contribution and only 40 GPM more than your support, and got hard carried by your other lanes?
http://www.lolsage.com/hive/match/na/d1LdHeWFlxgH0yUXIoVlAQD0ZwL3Zep011UXNVdaWIxzJ5dMzPaINtN/



PLs the Sejuani game =(.

You probably blotted that game from your memory though cause LazyFail wrecked you in lane with that warwick XD.

But yeah games were really fun tonight. Some of them were really tough to balance though.

The sejuani game was all about my Zuna level adc plays on Ashe carrying my team to a 18 min loss


fixed that for you
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 10 2013 19:48 GMT
#2264
On October 10 2013 18:52 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 05:47 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
On October 10 2013 05:46 xes wrote:
DURR going overboard with his berating of the Shyvanna player, and him picking Heimer mid are two entirely different issues.

Playing Heimer doesn't make your criticism of another player any more or less legitimate.


I agree, but similarly, giving legitimate criticism doesn't make picking Heimer any more or less acceptable.

Also, Heimerdinger is totally fine. Just because he's not mainstream doesn't mean he's terrible. People come out with picks that look "troll" to other people and totally dominate metas with them and that doesn't happen unless they have practice playing them. I agree that he isn't top tier by any means, but he's definitely not an autoloss champion.

I mean Roffles plays Leona from jungle and I thought that was going to be terrible until he went godlike and had a 14 minute triforce. As much as I think DURR is a total asshole, I respect his game understanding and he gives REALLY fucking good advice. If the player he said it to didn't take his advice because he was being a dick about it whatever, sometimes that happens because he's not always nice. It's still good advice and they should be able to separate that from the insults.

If you gunna play heimer, you have to play it with a super fast push strategy in mind, with a coherent team comp built around it. This was clearly not the case.
liftlift > tsm
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
October 10 2013 19:52 GMT
#2265
On October 11 2013 04:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 18:52 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On October 10 2013 05:47 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
On October 10 2013 05:46 xes wrote:
DURR going overboard with his berating of the Shyvanna player, and him picking Heimer mid are two entirely different issues.

Playing Heimer doesn't make your criticism of another player any more or less legitimate.


I agree, but similarly, giving legitimate criticism doesn't make picking Heimer any more or less acceptable.

Also, Heimerdinger is totally fine. Just because he's not mainstream doesn't mean he's terrible. People come out with picks that look "troll" to other people and totally dominate metas with them and that doesn't happen unless they have practice playing them. I agree that he isn't top tier by any means, but he's definitely not an autoloss champion.

I mean Roffles plays Leona from jungle and I thought that was going to be terrible until he went godlike and had a 14 minute triforce. As much as I think DURR is a total asshole, I respect his game understanding and he gives REALLY fucking good advice. If the player he said it to didn't take his advice because he was being a dick about it whatever, sometimes that happens because he's not always nice. It's still good advice and they should be able to separate that from the insults.

If you gunna play heimer, you have to play it with a super fast push strategy in mind, with a coherent team comp built around it. This was clearly not the case.


Honestly, half our games don't have a coherent team comp, because the silvers don't know what that is and at that level we just want to focus on getting better with a champ.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 10 2013 19:53 GMT
#2266
On October 11 2013 04:52 Pooshlmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 04:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 10 2013 18:52 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On October 10 2013 05:47 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
On October 10 2013 05:46 xes wrote:
DURR going overboard with his berating of the Shyvanna player, and him picking Heimer mid are two entirely different issues.

Playing Heimer doesn't make your criticism of another player any more or less legitimate.


I agree, but similarly, giving legitimate criticism doesn't make picking Heimer any more or less acceptable.

Also, Heimerdinger is totally fine. Just because he's not mainstream doesn't mean he's terrible. People come out with picks that look "troll" to other people and totally dominate metas with them and that doesn't happen unless they have practice playing them. I agree that he isn't top tier by any means, but he's definitely not an autoloss champion.

I mean Roffles plays Leona from jungle and I thought that was going to be terrible until he went godlike and had a 14 minute triforce. As much as I think DURR is a total asshole, I respect his game understanding and he gives REALLY fucking good advice. If the player he said it to didn't take his advice because he was being a dick about it whatever, sometimes that happens because he's not always nice. It's still good advice and they should be able to separate that from the insults.

If you gunna play heimer, you have to play it with a super fast push strategy in mind, with a coherent team comp built around it. This was clearly not the case.


Honestly, half our games don't have a coherent team comp, because the silvers don't know what that is and at that level we just want to focus on getting better with a champ.

Pretty much. It should be up to someone to speak up on a kind of comp you guys want to play.
liftlift > tsm
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
October 10 2013 20:10 GMT
#2267
On October 11 2013 04:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 04:52 Pooshlmer wrote:
On October 11 2013 04:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 10 2013 18:52 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On October 10 2013 05:47 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
On October 10 2013 05:46 xes wrote:
DURR going overboard with his berating of the Shyvanna player, and him picking Heimer mid are two entirely different issues.

Playing Heimer doesn't make your criticism of another player any more or less legitimate.


I agree, but similarly, giving legitimate criticism doesn't make picking Heimer any more or less acceptable.

Also, Heimerdinger is totally fine. Just because he's not mainstream doesn't mean he's terrible. People come out with picks that look "troll" to other people and totally dominate metas with them and that doesn't happen unless they have practice playing them. I agree that he isn't top tier by any means, but he's definitely not an autoloss champion.

I mean Roffles plays Leona from jungle and I thought that was going to be terrible until he went godlike and had a 14 minute triforce. As much as I think DURR is a total asshole, I respect his game understanding and he gives REALLY fucking good advice. If the player he said it to didn't take his advice because he was being a dick about it whatever, sometimes that happens because he's not always nice. It's still good advice and they should be able to separate that from the insults.

If you gunna play heimer, you have to play it with a super fast push strategy in mind, with a coherent team comp built around it. This was clearly not the case.


Honestly, half our games don't have a coherent team comp, because the silvers don't know what that is and at that level we just want to focus on getting better with a champ.

Pretty much. It should be up to someone to speak up on a kind of comp you guys want to play.


No, the point is that we CAN'T do a comp because that will often force the weaker players to unknown champs. Also we can't really draft because many people are missing champs and proxying/remaking the game is a huge pain. And that's fine, there's still a lot to learn.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 10 2013 20:13 GMT
#2268
On October 11 2013 05:10 Pooshlmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 04:53 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 11 2013 04:52 Pooshlmer wrote:
On October 11 2013 04:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 10 2013 18:52 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On October 10 2013 05:47 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
On October 10 2013 05:46 xes wrote:
DURR going overboard with his berating of the Shyvanna player, and him picking Heimer mid are two entirely different issues.

Playing Heimer doesn't make your criticism of another player any more or less legitimate.


I agree, but similarly, giving legitimate criticism doesn't make picking Heimer any more or less acceptable.

Also, Heimerdinger is totally fine. Just because he's not mainstream doesn't mean he's terrible. People come out with picks that look "troll" to other people and totally dominate metas with them and that doesn't happen unless they have practice playing them. I agree that he isn't top tier by any means, but he's definitely not an autoloss champion.

I mean Roffles plays Leona from jungle and I thought that was going to be terrible until he went godlike and had a 14 minute triforce. As much as I think DURR is a total asshole, I respect his game understanding and he gives REALLY fucking good advice. If the player he said it to didn't take his advice because he was being a dick about it whatever, sometimes that happens because he's not always nice. It's still good advice and they should be able to separate that from the insults.

If you gunna play heimer, you have to play it with a super fast push strategy in mind, with a coherent team comp built around it. This was clearly not the case.


Honestly, half our games don't have a coherent team comp, because the silvers don't know what that is and at that level we just want to focus on getting better with a champ.

Pretty much. It should be up to someone to speak up on a kind of comp you guys want to play.


No, the point is that we CAN'T do a comp because that will often force the weaker players to unknown champs. Also we can't really draft because many people are missing champs and proxying/remaking the game is a huge pain. And that's fine, there's still a lot to learn.

Well the talk should be "what kind of champs do you guys want to play", and have some of the higher level people fill the rest of the roles to make a better team comp.
liftlift > tsm
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 10 2013 20:16 GMT
#2269
No one knows how to draft well in these except like the diamonds.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 10 2013 20:35 GMT
#2270
On October 11 2013 05:16 Nos- wrote:
No one knows how to draft well except like the Koreans


fix'd
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 10 2013 20:35 GMT
#2271
On October 11 2013 03:59 DCWasabi wrote:
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lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
October 10 2013 23:52 GMT
#2272
On October 11 2013 05:16 Nos- wrote:
No one knows how to draft well in these except like the diamonds.


That's one of the things you can fix in these. Honestly as a trash tier player I think understanding my team's composition is one of the first things I could do well to learn. For example, if I have a cait/xerath/ken/ali/naut as the line up, I know that we do well in poking and disengaging, so hit and run tactics would serve us better than trying to fight heads up. It's so funny to see folks always just running rough shot into the enemy instead of playing their strengths.
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 04:35:55
October 11 2013 00:19 GMT
#2273
Oct 10th

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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 11 2013 00:23 GMT
#2274
Basic teamcomp draft is not hard to do at low levels.
Especially cause these days it's AoE, Split and poke.
For split push you need a splitpusher (duh uh) that is good at 1v1 and escaping, and for the 4 others you need waveclear, disengage, catch potencial and objective clear speed.
For poke you need poke (haha!), tower sieger, something to cover him and a fkload of disengage. Pick potencial always gud.
For AoE you need alot of AoE.

Done, teamcomp 101, if you want to go further you can try to balance the early game power and the lategame power of your picks, but that almost never come to play, and the easiest answer so far is play leesin and have 2 other dudes that scale well.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
October 11 2013 01:22 GMT
#2275
Team comp overrated. Pick to Win Lane-Win Game.

Unless you're the jungler; then you're the bitch that picks around the team.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
October 11 2013 07:14 GMT
#2276
Productive night of IHs.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
October 11 2013 07:16 GMT
#2277
I found a reason to love teamliquid again.

Group of people willing to help out those wanting help, and just overall having fun.

Thanks guys~
ppp
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 11 2013 07:18 GMT
#2278
On October 11 2013 10:22 silencefc wrote:
Team comp overrated. Pick to Win Lane-Win Game.

Unless you're the jungler; then you're the bitch that picks around the team.

Doggy 2sang, why u change ur name. Poison Ivy. Bitch plz that ain't you.
God Bless
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 07:18:55
October 11 2013 07:18 GMT
#2279
roffles taunt will live forever in my heart
RIP 10/10 taunt king hotshot is overtaken
baited and outsmarted by fake gg
Hey! Listen!
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
October 11 2013 07:33 GMT
#2280
On October 11 2013 16:18 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 10:22 silencefc wrote:
Team comp overrated. Pick to Win Lane-Win Game.

Unless you're the jungler; then you're the bitch that picks around the team.

Doggy 2sang, why u change ur name. Poison Ivy. Bitch plz that ain't you.


I should change it to eesang.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
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