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On September 30 2011 04:00 Senx wrote:
After the ELO reset im playing with and against people who has 50 cs as a solo laner at minute 30..
I obviously destroy my lane but it doesnt fucking matter because team goes full retard from minute 1 and feeds a kat 20 stacks before 20 min.
Do I deserve to go through this again? I guess riot thinks I do..
No it should matter. You're probably just bad, sorry brah.
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wtf arnt u in school shake?
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On September 30 2011 04:04 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 04:00 Senx wrote:
After the ELO reset im playing with and against people who has 50 cs as a solo laner at minute 30..
I obviously destroy my lane but it doesnt fucking matter because team goes full retard from minute 1 and feeds a kat 20 stacks before 20 min.
Do I deserve to go through this again? I guess riot thinks I do.. No it should matter. You're probably just bad, sorry brah.
In what way? Explain what can a single player can do besides win their lane, get best k/d in the game, grab ojectives and lead their team?
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kill that kat before she gets to 20 stacks to stop the bleeding.
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On September 30 2011 04:47 Senx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 04:04 HazMat wrote:On September 30 2011 04:00 Senx wrote:
After the ELO reset im playing with and against people who has 50 cs as a solo laner at minute 30..
I obviously destroy my lane but it doesnt fucking matter because team goes full retard from minute 1 and feeds a kat 20 stacks before 20 min.
Do I deserve to go through this again? I guess riot thinks I do.. No it should matter. You're probably just bad, sorry brah. In what way? Explain what can a single player can do besides win their lane, get best k/d in the game, grab ojectives and lead their team?
You mean other than doing those things better and harder? None of those things are binary.
Win lane harder, get a better KDA, get more objectives, and lead your team more.
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On September 30 2011 04:48 Mogwai wrote:
kill that kat before she gets to 20 stacks to stop the bleeding.
So leave top and just follow my team around like a babysitter? Guess i'll need to explore the concept of early roaming as a top player. Will be rough to really carry with no guaranteed farm/kills like you get from shitting on a lane.
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On September 30 2011 04:49 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 04:47 Senx wrote:On September 30 2011 04:04 HazMat wrote:On September 30 2011 04:00 Senx wrote:
After the ELO reset im playing with and against people who has 50 cs as a solo laner at minute 30..
I obviously destroy my lane but it doesnt fucking matter because team goes full retard from minute 1 and feeds a kat 20 stacks before 20 min.
Do I deserve to go through this again? I guess riot thinks I do.. No it should matter. You're probably just bad, sorry brah. In what way? Explain what can a single player can do besides win their lane, get best k/d in the game, grab ojectives and lead their team? You mean other than doing those things better and harder? None of those things are binary. Win lane harder, get a better KDA, get more objectives, and lead your team more.
I cant tell a team to stop dying randomly for no reason, they wont go "ahh he told me stop dying, maybe I should stop dying". They're dying because they're idiots who has no map awareness, understanding of champions or anything. They dont magicly learn how to play the game because they read a sentence in chat.
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steamroll through lanes, raping them, give up your tower and then use the extended lane to freefarm even harder after you've righted wrongs across the map. also, suck it up and buy wards for your team. this sucks, but is so necessary. if your team is skimping on wards and getting fucked up by it, just bite the bullet and do their job for them.
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yesterday, i queued up and got a 1450 who played morde. he played tank morde, didn't farm much, and fed pretty hard. i looked at his runes, and the only yellow runes he had were armor/lvl yellows. he only had 4 of them. he had 5 empty yellow slots per rune page.
plat players griefed me hard in 3 games. had a plat nasus player go AP and piss off our whiny amumu into afk'ing and throwing the game. i've had a plat malzahar player afk and throw the game after our yi took his blue, and he called yi a baby and demanded an apology while being "afk." i've had a plat duo queue literally spam chat for 40 minutes with unfunny garble
as for you senx, should take the advice being given here for helping your team winning a game, but, if you're still losing to trolls/newbies, you should either lay off ranked for a bit until elos stabilize or find a solid duo, assuming you aren't a newbie yourself. i'll pretty much only duo queue at 1500+
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Well the best answer ive found is to play a strong mid and just run around the map and gank everyone. Also duoing with a non-retarded jungler helped alot with offering extra support for the other lanes.
Playing top lane just isn't good at low elo, its too isolated from the rest of the team and burst dmg/CC from the top champions early on is too low really guarantee yourself kills when roaming.
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I shouldn't argue with idiots on the forums about jungling. It's just depressing. Or am I terrible? You decide: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1279331&page=2
(I'm Montegomery for reference).
Edit: I don't think Wriggle's is the only way to do things, but I don't believe this Kikhan fellow has made any solid arguments against it.
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On September 30 2011 08:02 Seuss wrote:I shouldn't argue with idiots on the forums about jungling. It's just depressing. Or am I terrible? You decide: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1279331&page=2(I'm Montegomery for reference). Edit: I don't think Wriggle's is the only way to do things, but I don't believe this Kikhan fellow has made any solid arguments against it.
IMO the moment you go on official forums you've already lost. This applies to all Blizzard games, too.
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On September 30 2011 08:02 Seuss wrote:I shouldn't argue with idiots on the forums about jungling. It's just depressing. Or am I terrible? You decide: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1279331&page=2(I'm Montegomery for reference). Edit: I don't think Wriggle's is the only way to do things, but I don't believe this Kikhan fellow has made any solid arguments against it.
I've always thought you articulated your arguments very well. No exception in this case. Seems to me its just a playstyle difference. His way may not have the most advantages but if it fits his style better not a big deal. Although I don't think he'll tell you all it is is playstyle...
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On September 30 2011 04:54 Senx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 04:48 Mogwai wrote:
kill that kat before she gets to 20 stacks to stop the bleeding. So leave top and just follow my team around like a babysitter? Guess i'll need to explore the concept of early roaming as a top player. Will be rough to really carry with no guaranteed farm/kills like you get from shitting on a lane.
I've seen hotshot and rainman give top to the jungler and go ganking when they get super farmed (and opponent top laner died a couple times and is underleveled/farmed) as a top laner. Just saying.
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This game is so fucking stupid. I was 1600 elo last season and now I can't break 1300 because of trash teammates. Every game there is a scrub feeder, leaver, or game lost at picking phase. Now that I played this game for a week, I went back to SC2 and lost 5 games in a row and am afraid to get demote to diamond. Awesome.
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After playing this game for 6 months I got demoted to gold league and can't hold off proxy two rax and proxy 2 gate. The only game I've won in the past six months was a PvP 4 gate with a warp prism against an expanding and cannoning opponent on Shakuras close by air.
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On September 30 2011 08:55 Node wrote:IMO the moment you go on official forums you've already lost. This applies to all Blizzard games, too.
*little off topic*
I was going to say this is completely true, but you messed up a little...
This applies to ALL games. Period.
If you think TL has some stupid people/super newbies...the official forums will have at least 10x as many, because those guys don't even know about better forums/communities like TL.
The only reasons to go into those forums are for either tech help, bug reporting, hacker reporting, checking if servers are down, official patch notes/news, and laughing at how stupid people are (even better is when they actually think they are amazing at the game, but obviously aren't).
Best assumption that you should always keep with you (that deals with gaming in general): Everyone sucks, including you. (You can exclude pros/well known players/people affiliated with well-known gaming groups, obviously)
(Last assumption also goes with pubbing as well...although you can fight back if the advice given/QQ'ing is absurd)
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Lineup : MF, GP, Trynda, Jarvan (jungle) and me as Swain. There's Mordekaiser in the enemy team, and Nasus, so I ask to solotop with MF mid, since she'd not be glued to her tower like I'd have to, refuses. They want to invade enemy jungle, all signs are here that the enemy's won't start at blue, they still wait for full and steal it. Fine, but now our jungler's late, and top comes when theirs' level 2.
I get stuck to the tower as I can't clear fast enough, with Morde happily roaming and netting kills even tho I call ss immediatly every time, GP and Trynda kinda feeding.
There are no wards, no calls for ss, and when Jarvan comes suggesting a gank all he does is rush Morde, hit him once or twice, then leave with Morde at 50hp and me dead. Fine.
MF and Trynda lose their tower fast, so MF comes mid to "help". Keeps rushing to Olaf every time he appears in lane, and by that I mean getting in close range to eat 2-3 swings and then run back at midlife.
Jarvan and MF's habits of leaving immediatly carry on in the early teamfights, landing us unnecessary deaths, and when I manage to catch someone and burst them all by myself GP comes round the corner to steal the kill. He managed to crawl his way back doing that but it doesn't change the fact I was also needing farm since cooperation when in need clearly wasn't their forte.
I get killed several times like when Jarv passes through a 200 HP Rumble leaving him untouched, and I get ambushed immediatly when I get near to accompany Jarv who doesn't even try to help me flee.
They insist on 1v1ing fed Nasus and Morde when they try to backdoor, focus said Nasus instead of Ashe or squishy Rumble during teamfights, and finally MF who got me killed twice and was of no use during most of the game blame our loss on me.
Well I guess it's normal when I'm the only one with no kills because I either get instantly focused down because half the team flee fights, or GP steals me.
What a waste of time.
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On September 30 2011 04:49 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 04:47 Senx wrote:On September 30 2011 04:04 HazMat wrote:On September 30 2011 04:00 Senx wrote:
After the ELO reset im playing with and against people who has 50 cs as a solo laner at minute 30..
I obviously destroy my lane but it doesnt fucking matter because team goes full retard from minute 1 and feeds a kat 20 stacks before 20 min.
Do I deserve to go through this again? I guess riot thinks I do.. No it should matter. You're probably just bad, sorry brah. In what way? Explain what can a single player can do besides win their lane, get best k/d in the game, grab ojectives and lead their team? You mean other than doing those things better and harder? None of those things are binary. Win lane harder, get a better KDA, get more objectives, and lead your team more.
i played a game yesterday as annie winning solo mid, concentrating on pure cs except when i was setting up for a kill and ganked both top and bottom before lvl 10. i know thats nothing toooo amazing but its better than you see in 99% of pug games.
i was lvl 18 when most people were lvl 13, game was still tough, god damn it :D
i think its alot easier to be like an ad carry or something in pug / low elo because with lifesteal and shit you get so much sustain that if you win your lane hard you can rape the whole game up against retards. it takes a special kind of moron to die to annie who doesnt have tibbers available
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