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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 10:22:12
November 26 2012 10:21 GMT
#6421
On November 26 2012 19:16 Cheap0 wrote:
Why do I torture myself by playing when I'm tilting? Why? I just start making mistake after mistake, getting angrier and angrier, and acting like an idiot and whining towards my teammates.

I don't deserve my green ribbon QQ.


Give it to me
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
November 26 2012 11:41 GMT
#6422
It's a shame that once you've honored someone post-match, you can't report them - on the PBE realm of all places, had an enemy Cho'Gath that played well, warded, kept them in the game, etc and I absentmindedly honored them at the post-match stream ... just before he/she unleashed a torrent of racist & homophobic abuse at his team (and then "u all low, low noobs, only win becuz teamwork" at us). I mean ... it's the Public Beta Environment, what on earth does anyone have to gain by hardmanning/tryharding a glorified bug-test?
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
November 26 2012 14:14 GMT
#6423
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
November 26 2012 16:43 GMT
#6424
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 26 2012 17:06 GMT
#6425
Lost a game today where I was a mundo with hog/2 warmogs/wit's at 32 minutes.Random diamond guy decides that because they don't give him mid he should go swain supp and our 4-th pick locks lulu and goes afk for awhile becaues he thinks game won't start(also ghost/ignite).So we have supp lulu and swain bot vs ez/blitz.Top lane riven heal/ignite(whose play would make Leeroy Jenkins proud) who is lvl 11 goes on to die a few times to a lvl 9 then yorick and when game is a bit in our favour dives a team of morg/ez/blitz/xin/yorick under inhib so they ace us and get baron.Oh and our mid lane was a lux who got caught 3 times in a row trying to harass people with baron away from a turret.

Why I so bad at carrying .
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
November 26 2012 17:35 GMT
#6426
I just got back from a really long break from LoL. Like atleast 4 months.

Needless to say, I'm "a bit" rusty. Before I quit I switched to EU west to play with some friends, so now that I've begun again, I decided to get back to leveling that account. Turns out that was a big mistake.

Of the 10 or so games I've played since coming back a week ago, I think 9 of them have been atrocious. But nothing comes close to the game I just played.

I don't even have the energy to go into detail. It just feels good to get it out on "paper". What the fuck is wrong with some people?
Everyone is SO tense, takes nothing for them to go "ok, afk" and then quit the game. Names are flying left and right through the entire game. It's always everyone elses fault.

Honestly, who are these people and why does 90% of their energy go towards negatives instead of just focusing on doing what they can with the game?

Phew, all better now


Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 18:33:14
November 26 2012 17:46 GMT
#6427
I just one to lose one game, where the game goes like "oh, we lost... Good luck to your next games guys, hope they will be better " And not "OH FUCK THIS, X AND Y COST ME ELO!!! I AM A DIAMOND PLAYER BUT U FUCKTARDS KEEP ME DOWN!!! ..."

Like won 4 and lost 3, and in all 3 losses the game was over by 20 minutes, but they lasted for well over 35, because 2 or more people had fun arguing with each other, so they did not want to surrender... Well, ignore list keeps growing.

edit: oh and a guy, who complained that we need an DPS jungler like GP or Jax, because Maokai jungle is so bad, and does nothing. I loved that guy. Gold elo even funnier then usual now that people get there through accelerated elo.

edit2: Ok... Just tried to find a game for 35 minutes, but countless dodges later (that all happen 2 seconds before the game is about to start, of course) my connection to PVP.net disconnects, and i get a 30min ban. And that game seemed like it would start. qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
November 26 2012 18:05 GMT
#6428
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
November 26 2012 18:14 GMT
#6429
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.


How so.

I never said NOT to farm. Shutting down lane gives you even more room to freeze the lane and get an widen the cs lead you'll have.

A support like Alistar or Leona that jump in and stun-lock for a good 3~4 seconds when using the CC in their kit with no follow up is basically a dead support when left alone. Jumping in LeeroyJenkins style without any damage follow up is suicidal, especially if your AD carry just wants to farm it up and rather have you die so he can score a few more cs.

I liked the "wrong on so many levels," was really clear.
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 26 2012 18:15 GMT
#6430
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.

Totally dependent on a lot of things. In lower games (and I speak from experience), everyone sucks at CS. Like, erryone. So kills are kind of worth more because it's a lot harder to catch up when the AD misses 2/3-1/2 of the wave anyway.

But honestly it's just better to be the best CSer in the game and not fight, since you'll be richer and more useful than the enemy AD anyway. Something I need to work on...
It's your boy Guzma!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11735 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 18:41:34
November 26 2012 18:39 GMT
#6431
On November 27 2012 02:06 nafta wrote:
Lost a game today where I was a mundo with hog/2 warmogs/wit's at 32 minutes.Random diamond guy decides that because they don't give him mid he should go swain supp and our 4-th pick locks lulu and goes afk for awhile becaues he thinks game won't start(also ghost/ignite).So we have supp lulu and swain bot vs ez/blitz.Top lane riven heal/ignite(whose play would make Leeroy Jenkins proud) who is lvl 11 goes on to die a few times to a lvl 9 then yorick and when game is a bit in our favour dives a team of morg/ez/blitz/xin/yorick under inhib so they ace us and get baron.Oh and our mid lane was a lux who got caught 3 times in a row trying to harass people with baron away from a turret.

Why I so bad at carrying .


You shouldn't be a Mundo with Hog, 2 Warmogs and Wits pretty much ever. A lot of people don't seem to understand that, but Life is only slightly more useful on Mundo due to his fixed skillcosts. Both his passive and his ult do not make health worth more then on other tanky champions because they effectively scale with EHP, not pure HP. Get some armor and resistances instead of 2 warmogs.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
November 26 2012 18:47 GMT
#6432
If Yi refuses to group, why don't we group on Yi? No, Soraka, having boots5 doesn't mean you can solo extend into the enemy jungle on a whim. No, LB and Teemo, I will not stick around for a 3v5 fight where you guys are me wall and get blown up in 2 seconds, then blame me for you dieing. It's because you're idiots.

Now that that hour long game is out of the way, I can go back to not playing for a week.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 20:33:11
November 26 2012 20:30 GMT
#6433
On November 27 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.

Totally dependent on a lot of things. In lower games (and I speak from experience), everyone sucks at CS. Like, erryone. So kills are kind of worth more because it's a lot harder to catch up when the AD misses 2/3-1/2 of the wave anyway.

But honestly it's just better to be the best CSer in the game and not fight, since you'll be richer and more useful than the enemy AD anyway. Something I need to work on...


That's like....backwards logic, so yes, it is honestly better to the best CSers in the game.

If you suck at farm, it doesn't matter if you can get kills because when you advance into higher ELO, you're going to suck big fat nuts because you can't keep up farm with other players.

In other words, learn to farm, and don't rely on kills to get you gold.

On November 27 2012 03:14 Tatari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.


How so.

I never said NOT to farm. Shutting down lane gives you even more room to freeze the lane and get an widen the cs lead you'll have.

A support like Alistar or Leona that jump in and stun-lock for a good 3~4 seconds when using the CC in their kit with no follow up is basically a dead support when left alone. Jumping in LeeroyJenkins style without any damage follow up is suicidal, especially if your AD carry just wants to farm it up and rather have you die so he can score a few more cs.

I liked the "wrong on so many levels," was really clear.


Or you could, you know, just let your AD Carry farm it up if he wants to farm. It's not like there's any more need for supports who think that just because they have an aggressive lane they have the skills necessary to just one shot other heroes.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 26 2012 20:31 GMT
#6434
On November 27 2012 05:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.

Totally dependent on a lot of things. In lower games (and I speak from experience), everyone sucks at CS. Like, erryone. So kills are kind of worth more because it's a lot harder to catch up when the AD misses 2/3-1/2 of the wave anyway.

But honestly it's just better to be the best CSer in the game and not fight, since you'll be richer and more useful than the enemy AD anyway. Something I need to work on...


That's like....backwards logic, so yes, it is honestly better to the best CSers in the game.

If you suck at farm, it doesn't matter if you can get kills because when you advance into higher ELO, you're going to suck big fat nuts because you can't keep up farm with other players.

In other words, learn to farm, and don't rely on kills to get you gold.

No, I'm saying in those games kills are worth more. Not about improving as a player, which is something entirely different, which is why I had that entire second statement.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 20:36:14
November 26 2012 20:35 GMT
#6435
On November 27 2012 05:31 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 05:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.

Totally dependent on a lot of things. In lower games (and I speak from experience), everyone sucks at CS. Like, erryone. So kills are kind of worth more because it's a lot harder to catch up when the AD misses 2/3-1/2 of the wave anyway.

But honestly it's just better to be the best CSer in the game and not fight, since you'll be richer and more useful than the enemy AD anyway. Something I need to work on...


That's like....backwards logic, so yes, it is honestly better to the best CSers in the game.

If you suck at farm, it doesn't matter if you can get kills because when you advance into higher ELO, you're going to suck big fat nuts because you can't keep up farm with other players.

In other words, learn to farm, and don't rely on kills to get you gold.

No, I'm saying in those games kills are worth more. Not about improving as a player, which is something entirely different, which is why I had that entire second statement.


1 kill at 300 gold is worth like 15cs. I reckon getting 15cs ahead your opponent is a lot easier at these ELOs than getting a kill in the bot lane. Just learn how to last hit creeps better and you'll be dead even with your opponent even if he gets a kill of a gank or your support dies or whatever. Sure, there's experience to factor in, but who cares about that when there's a massive risk factor.

You're in fucking solo queue, it's not like you know how to synergize with other people anyway.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 26 2012 20:36 GMT
#6436
On November 27 2012 05:35 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 05:31 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.

Totally dependent on a lot of things. In lower games (and I speak from experience), everyone sucks at CS. Like, erryone. So kills are kind of worth more because it's a lot harder to catch up when the AD misses 2/3-1/2 of the wave anyway.

But honestly it's just better to be the best CSer in the game and not fight, since you'll be richer and more useful than the enemy AD anyway. Something I need to work on...


That's like....backwards logic, so yes, it is honestly better to the best CSers in the game.

If you suck at farm, it doesn't matter if you can get kills because when you advance into higher ELO, you're going to suck big fat nuts because you can't keep up farm with other players.

In other words, learn to farm, and don't rely on kills to get you gold.

No, I'm saying in those games kills are worth more. Not about improving as a player, which is something entirely different, which is why I had that entire second statement.


1 kill at 300 gold is worth like 15cs. I reckon getting 15cs of your opponent is a lot easier at these ELOs than getting a kill in the bot lane.

Dude, you'd be surprised the number of AD carries I've seen under 100 CS at the end of a game at 1200. I'm not even joking.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 20:37:49
November 26 2012 20:36 GMT
#6437
On November 27 2012 05:36 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 05:35 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:31 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.

Totally dependent on a lot of things. In lower games (and I speak from experience), everyone sucks at CS. Like, erryone. So kills are kind of worth more because it's a lot harder to catch up when the AD misses 2/3-1/2 of the wave anyway.

But honestly it's just better to be the best CSer in the game and not fight, since you'll be richer and more useful than the enemy AD anyway. Something I need to work on...


That's like....backwards logic, so yes, it is honestly better to the best CSers in the game.

If you suck at farm, it doesn't matter if you can get kills because when you advance into higher ELO, you're going to suck big fat nuts because you can't keep up farm with other players.

In other words, learn to farm, and don't rely on kills to get you gold.

No, I'm saying in those games kills are worth more. Not about improving as a player, which is something entirely different, which is why I had that entire second statement.


1 kill at 300 gold is worth like 15cs. I reckon getting 15cs of your opponent is a lot easier at these ELOs than getting a kill in the bot lane.

Dude, you'd be surprised the number of AD carries I've seen under 100 CS at the end of a game at 1200. I'm not even joking.


Exactly.

So getting more CS than them should be easy.

I mean....presumably you're on TL because you know Starcraft and not League of Legends initially, so why would you complain about not being able to last hit minions if you know how to play Starcraft, which is just a more mechanically demanding game to begin with?
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11735 Posts
November 26 2012 20:39 GMT
#6438
On November 27 2012 05:35 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 05:31 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.

Totally dependent on a lot of things. In lower games (and I speak from experience), everyone sucks at CS. Like, erryone. So kills are kind of worth more because it's a lot harder to catch up when the AD misses 2/3-1/2 of the wave anyway.

But honestly it's just better to be the best CSer in the game and not fight, since you'll be richer and more useful than the enemy AD anyway. Something I need to work on...


That's like....backwards logic, so yes, it is honestly better to the best CSers in the game.

If you suck at farm, it doesn't matter if you can get kills because when you advance into higher ELO, you're going to suck big fat nuts because you can't keep up farm with other players.

In other words, learn to farm, and don't rely on kills to get you gold.

No, I'm saying in those games kills are worth more. Not about improving as a player, which is something entirely different, which is why I had that entire second statement.


1 kill at 300 gold is worth like 15cs. I reckon getting 15cs of your opponent is a lot easier at these ELOs than getting a kill in the bot lane.


Yes, but under the assumption that everyone misses half his cs for no apparent reason (like it happens at lower level games), a kill is worth more, because people have less money. If you get all cs, a kill is worth maby 2.5 waves. If you miss half the cs, it is suddenly worth 5 waves. That was the whole statement. If you have less money, 300g is proportionally worth more then when you have more money.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 20:41:32
November 26 2012 20:40 GMT
#6439
On November 27 2012 05:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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On November 27 2012 05:36 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:35 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:31 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.

Totally dependent on a lot of things. In lower games (and I speak from experience), everyone sucks at CS. Like, erryone. So kills are kind of worth more because it's a lot harder to catch up when the AD misses 2/3-1/2 of the wave anyway.

But honestly it's just better to be the best CSer in the game and not fight, since you'll be richer and more useful than the enemy AD anyway. Something I need to work on...


That's like....backwards logic, so yes, it is honestly better to the best CSers in the game.

If you suck at farm, it doesn't matter if you can get kills because when you advance into higher ELO, you're going to suck big fat nuts because you can't keep up farm with other players.

In other words, learn to farm, and don't rely on kills to get you gold.

No, I'm saying in those games kills are worth more. Not about improving as a player, which is something entirely different, which is why I had that entire second statement.


1 kill at 300 gold is worth like 15cs. I reckon getting 15cs of your opponent is a lot easier at these ELOs than getting a kill in the bot lane.

Dude, you'd be surprised the number of AD carries I've seen under 100 CS at the end of a game at 1200. I'm not even joking.


Exactly.

So getting more CS than them should be easy.

I do, as the jungler. I rarely play AD in solo queue, majorly frustrating when you assume you have a team to kite/peel/just stand in front of you and look threatening, but then I just give up after the fifth time of some bruiser walking up to me while my team chases Soraka.

I have faith in my AD farming skills, but utilizing it is another feat altogether. I think I just need to learn Vayne.

Edit: I wasn't talking about my own lack of CS or when I'm playing AD (in which cases I abuse the enemy bot lane most of the time), but QQing about bad teammate, since that is what this thread is for.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 20:41:30
November 26 2012 20:40 GMT
#6440
On November 27 2012 05:39 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 05:35 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:31 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:15 Requizen wrote:
On November 27 2012 03:05 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:43 Tatari wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:14 57 Corvette wrote:
No, Mr. ADC. I did not pick alistar so you could sit back and farm against the no-flash soraka and ashe. I picked him so we can buttfuck soraka every time she comes to lane. Here, ashe is overextended lets kill her. *charge/headbut* Ashe and soraka attack me and chase me to my tower where they finally get the kill. "Omg noob feeder alistar what are you doing i was farming"

-.-*


What boggles my mind is that people think farm is everything. Farm is good, scoring kills and shutting down lane is even better.

I guess the only solution is to adjust to the AD carry :/


Wrong on so many levels, but okay.

Totally dependent on a lot of things. In lower games (and I speak from experience), everyone sucks at CS. Like, erryone. So kills are kind of worth more because it's a lot harder to catch up when the AD misses 2/3-1/2 of the wave anyway.

But honestly it's just better to be the best CSer in the game and not fight, since you'll be richer and more useful than the enemy AD anyway. Something I need to work on...


That's like....backwards logic, so yes, it is honestly better to the best CSers in the game.

If you suck at farm, it doesn't matter if you can get kills because when you advance into higher ELO, you're going to suck big fat nuts because you can't keep up farm with other players.

In other words, learn to farm, and don't rely on kills to get you gold.

No, I'm saying in those games kills are worth more. Not about improving as a player, which is something entirely different, which is why I had that entire second statement.


1 kill at 300 gold is worth like 15cs. I reckon getting 15cs of your opponent is a lot easier at these ELOs than getting a kill in the bot lane.


Yes, but under the assumption that everyone misses half his cs for no apparent reason (like it happens at lower level games), a kill is worth more, because people have less money. If you get all cs, a kill is worth maby 2.5 waves. If you miss half the cs, it is suddenly worth 5 waves. That was the whole statement. If you have less money, 300g is proportionally worth more then when you have more money.


Except, you realize that if an ADC can't farm, he probably can't secure a kill either, lol

Because....you know....if you can't last minions, how can you last hit a champion?
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