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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35089 Posts
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
so i havent played in two weeks. start out losing cs to ashe, and then get the hang of things, end laning with 4 kills, 1 death up 30 farm on ashe our team is 17-10 overall, we took a dragon, two top towers, they took bot and mid towers- all in all good shape THEN THE MIDGAME HAPPENS AND OH GOODNESS First, we are grouped as four and zed is running mid. They have five. Our warwick decides to go in, dives into the back line onto ashe, and immediately dies. Our taric is baited to follow and me + kass flash out. We dont even want to fight them... they have wukong and nunu and we cant really even initate into that... Zed comes in all gungho, dives onto their nunu, gets a kill, and then promptly dies. Warwick: WHERES THE TEAM then later we sweep drag wards, they are coming. They kno we hide cause ashe hawkshot. WW: flash over the ledge thing between drag pit and mid, ults ashe. Baits a full on teamfight where we had to charge through that corner thing while eating nunu ult on one side and wukong ult the other. We all die. "Warwick, please don't dive them" "kass: OMG SIVIR ALL YOU DO IS COMPLAIN" what. thats the first thing ive said all game. later i point out that wards benefits our team greatly because between taric-ww-kass, we can burst people down fast so if we can catch them out then its good. taric decides at this point that I was accusing him of not buying wards, and flames me. dafaq i bought 8+ wards as the adc... im trying to help the team out. whatev, but then his buddybuddy queue mate kass has his back, "Sivir learn to position, you deal no damage" ok between darius pulls and wukong spins, and fighting into chokes... whatever, we still got this we are mid again, the enemy circles around wraith camp. ww, for the third time in this stupid stupid game flash ults over wraith pit onto ashe. I DONT KNOW HOW HE EXPECTS US TO GET THERE WITH HIM. wukong ults, i run, he flashes into me, i get knocked up, and then i get dunked by darius. meanwhile our zed is at a whoppign 120 farm in 40 odd minutes. and comes the pain train. this was a 4 man queue. its sivirs fault. all my fault. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Back to spamming normals. edit: I wouldn't be angry if I was Zed but some fucker banned it because he was on my team the previous queue. Fuck queue dodges. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
"I ONLY TOP PLS IM PLAT SMURF" "Okay, I main top as well but I'll support if you will win top." 20 minutes into the game, 0-6 with 35cs as Darius vs Riven. "BG NOOB TEAM NEVER GANKS I GOT COUNTER" "Bro, why don't you just ward? Then you can stop getting ganked at least.." "WARD? R U DUMB U THINK IM SUPPORTER?" Mind you, this is in a ranked game. I don't understand why you'd insist on calling a role and then losing lane terribly. Like, if I call my main role I will win lane 85% of the time vs equally skilled players, and at worst case be down a kill or two. Is there some sort of thought process they have that induces them to play ranked with a role they suck at, instead of norms, therefore increasing the chance of a loss? Nobody knows. But it's the junglers fault. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11313 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
i would never expect anyone below plat to do it, and even in higher elos, most people dont really main jungle so you cant expect them to do it eithar | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On November 19 2012 05:00 zulu_nation8 wrote: if theres one lane thats winning and the rest are failing, and the other jungler is camping the lane thats winning, as a jungler you should be countercamping instead of trying to help the losing lanes. so many fucking golds and silvers in placements with 0 idea how to play. Or you can just help the losing lanes catch up and take another objective like dragon while their jungler is top zzz | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11313 Posts
On November 19 2012 05:21 MooMooMugi wrote: Or you can just help the losing lanes catch up and take another objective like dragon while their jungler is top zzz That depends on how much the lanes are losing. Quite often, they are losing by so much that ganking them is incredibly dangerous because it might backfire even without the enemy jungler being there, and be disastrous if he is. Plus it has a much lower success chance to gank for a losing lane then to gank for an even/winning lane. But to be honest, if the winning lane is not winning by a lot, with 2 losing lanes you already have a lot of problems. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On November 19 2012 05:24 zulu_nation8 wrote: no Good elaboration, I guess when you're diamond its not required to explain your reasoning, one word answers are sufficient | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11313 Posts
I should probably invest like 20 games to learn to play him, and win every game until i reach an elo where people actually are able to deal with him. The problem is that i don't like that absurdly aggressive play he needs to be effective, and am quite bad at it. And somehow if i play shaco, all my lanes are always at the enemy turret. And i am not really motivated to learn him since he is so obviously reliant on your enemies failing. Sadly my team always does. And i have no idea how to deal with lategame shaco. He just kills your turrets, and is completely unkillable due to 10 second cd flash + invis. I assume it involves absurd amounts of wards, but even with them you can only deterr him, not kill him, and meanwhile his team pushes somewhere else. If he has ult he doesn't even need creeps to do so. Nidalee is nothing compared to that. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Two dodges, I should have picked up the sign and logged off. Na, I still hopped back into ranked queue, to see first picks Leona+Draven in the enemy team, and our bot lane goes for Varus... uh, 'k, he'll need good help against such a lane tho... and Kayle. " 'k, you guys gonna be destroyed". Didn't miss, 0-11 in under 15 minutes. I think they got a kill actually, when our 3-0 jungler came, but he died too in the process. As top Nunu I just baited Olaf to fight me (1150 Elo, people are awful there) so he pushed, letting me punch creeps for passive without pushing, and he dies to our jungler coming after his red. The jungler goes away when Olaf proceeds to TP under tower. Xin comes back and we kill him immediatly again. Well good stuff, I'm gonna zone Olaf from creeps all day long, get an advantage rolling and... wait. Oh, bot's feeding, and Eve died to Fizz as soon as he hit 6. Well I guess Xin gonna have to help them. He went up and counterganked them, getting a 2-0 (wasn't really necessary, at that point 4 snowballs would almost kill Olaf, and once would take like 20% of Lee's HP) but I told him he should have been helping bot instead. Bot 0-5 at that point. Oh, Eve died too. My computer crashed on me (need to clean it up before I play league again, overheating's bad for my enjoyment) but it didn't matter since we had already lost at that point. We couldn't even take a tower since Varus stupidly went PD first and neither him nor Kayle would have enough levels for their "poke" to have any effect, so having Leona+Draven under a tower was enough that unless Xin was there we'd ge smashed 4v2. Worst thing is Draven decided to build BT-IE-BC (in that order) since he had "domineering" early game. Poor guy had no AS at all when he ate Iceball, and my FH wasn't even completed yet. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On November 19 2012 05:06 OutlaW- wrote: counterganking actually takes some planning, most bad junglers just gank when they feel like it or when they have no more jungle camps to farm i would never expect anyone below plat to do it, and even in higher elos, most people dont really main jungle so you cant expect them to do it eithar i try to countergank based on timing their buff spawn and how pushed our lane is but it's SO HARD half the time "care top lee red just spawned he probably up there" but then lee ends up being bad at timing his buffs and is bot and kills them FUCK | ||
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