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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
November 20 2012 05:49 GMT
#6321
I don't understand why bad players shit talk you when somebody else on your team feeds.

Like grats, bot lane fed you 10 kills in the first 15 minutes, and I got camped by jungle and mid at top all game so I couldn't snowball out of control. Yet, I managed to outplay you, dodge the shit out of your skill shots and your teammate's, and still managed to kill you in a 1v2 and manage to get away.

Quick, better start insulting me, calling me lucky, and telling me how I'll never break 1300!! Yep, I'm sure not already past that!! You caught me da trolls lately.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
November 20 2012 08:36 GMT
#6322
WOW. Tried to start off on a clean slate.

So I just lost 4 games and won 1. So fucking pissed right now.

Lost game 1: Our Volibear refused to go support and decided to go top during queue, even after everyone decided that the last support role would go to Voli (who didn't say anything) and then locked-in which forced me to go support. Anyway, I decided to be nice, went support, and played well and got my ADC fed. We were doing really well but the game dragged on because this Voli fed top, and would ALWAYS get caught off position in late game teamfights so we had to 4v5 or defend. Needless to say, we lost this game

Lost game 2: Went Skarner. I was really worried about our Cait during the champ select because he was a new player ( I looked up his records) but everyone else was like it's okay, he'll be fine. This little trash had HALF the CS and kept d/c'ing late game. No ADC = No win teamfights late game.

Lost game 3: This game was a legit loss. I beat Fiora at top with my Riven, (she was a really good player, gave me trouble even though I beat her) and Fiora picked up a few kills from idiot teammates and she was just an offensive machine. She built ALL AD items, double BT, and ZERO defensive items, but no one on our team focused her down during late game teamfights. Their team actually had tanks, our team had zero tank champs.

Lost game 4: This game pissed me off so much. I DOMINATED top with Riven on noob Jax, 4-1'd him, and took top tower early. But our bot ashe was fucking terrible, noob ranked player AND he said he was lagging. He had 1/3 of CS of enemy ADC AND fed enemy MF to 9/1 at mid game. My end game score was 12-4 Riven, I was the ONLY one wreaking havoc on enemy champs and they focused me hard once they realized that our ADC was as much as a threat as their soraka. Did NOT deserve to lose this game.

If anyone wants to duo rank with a really excellent Riven player and excellent mid player, please add me Gengår (with the special a font)
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
November 20 2012 16:44 GMT
#6323
Score penta, scumbag Riot only counts it as a quadra.

Filed a ticket qq ;__;
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 20 2012 16:49 GMT
#6324
On November 20 2012 17:36 GhostOwl wrote:
WOW. Tried to start off on a clean slate.

So I just lost 4 games and won 1. So fucking pissed right now.

Lost game 1: Our Volibear refused to go support and decided to go top during queue, even after everyone decided that the last support role would go to Voli (who didn't say anything) and then locked-in which forced me to go support. Anyway, I decided to be nice, went support, and played well and got my ADC fed. We were doing really well but the game dragged on because this Voli fed top, and would ALWAYS get caught off position in late game teamfights so we had to 4v5 or defend. Needless to say, we lost this game

Lost game 2: Went Skarner. I was really worried about our Cait during the champ select because he was a new player ( I looked up his records) but everyone else was like it's okay, he'll be fine. This little trash had HALF the CS and kept d/c'ing late game. No ADC = No win teamfights late game.

Lost game 3: This game was a legit loss. I beat Fiora at top with my Riven, (she was a really good player, gave me trouble even though I beat her) and Fiora picked up a few kills from idiot teammates and she was just an offensive machine. She built ALL AD items, double BT, and ZERO defensive items, but no one on our team focused her down during late game teamfights. Their team actually had tanks, our team had zero tank champs.

Lost game 4: This game pissed me off so much. I DOMINATED top with Riven on noob Jax, 4-1'd him, and took top tower early. But our bot ashe was fucking terrible, noob ranked player AND he said he was lagging. He had 1/3 of CS of enemy ADC AND fed enemy MF to 9/1 at mid game. My end game score was 12-4 Riven, I was the ONLY one wreaking havoc on enemy champs and they focused me hard once they realized that our ADC was as much as a threat as their soraka. Did NOT deserve to lose this game.

If anyone wants to duo rank with a really excellent Riven player and excellent mid player, please add me Gengår (with the special a font)

As to the last game, if you dominate your lane, you need to be elsewhere, especially if the other lanes are losing. If you kill top once or twice, you should already be way ahead in gold and CS, so it won't hurt you too much to hang around in bot for a couple minutes to help them catch up. And if you're really ahead skill and gold wise, you should probably get a couple more kills down there with them as well.

Always remember that it's a team game, and just because you win your lane doesn't mean you're helping your team. I admit I get in that mindset as well (7-1 Garen, team only has 10 kills overall, but I never roamed or pushed), but it's just one of those things you need to be aware of. Yeah, they say top is just a farm game for 20 minutes, but it doesn't have to be if you're doing well. Especially as Riven, who has the early/mid game power to bully around squishier opponents.

Add me in game (Requizen), or just hang around in the LiquidPractice game channel, where most people are. Not hard to find partners.
It's your boy Guzma!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11554 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 18:06:11
November 20 2012 18:00 GMT
#6325
Ok, what is this bullshit. I am toplane, where i don't want to be anyways. Get ganked because the enemy jungler is 3 seconds faster then mine, and die. come back to lane, and the lane is pushing. try to kind of farm, ward, my jungler can't do shit because the lane is pushing. Get ganked again, die again. They push lane into turret. I come back to lane, AND THE FUCKING LANE IS PUSHING AGAIN. Can't farm a single creep, irelia freezes 2m in front of her turret. Game over. And EVERY single time they pushed into my turret lateron, the lane pushed towards them afterwards. What is this bullshit. So much luck involved with in which direction the lane pushes. There is no way to steer it, it just sometimes randomly starts pushing, and if it does, you are fucked. So bullshit.

Next game: "xyz and me bot or double jungle"

And they pick Nunu Kog vs Sona Ez. This will be...fun.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
November 20 2012 21:46 GMT
#6326
Nunu kog is stronk. Nothing wrong with that lane.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
November 20 2012 21:54 GMT
#6327
0-11 and counting wtfffffffff
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
November 20 2012 22:27 GMT
#6328
On November 21 2012 03:00 Simberto wrote:
Ok, what is this bullshit. I am toplane, where i don't want to be anyways. Get ganked because the enemy jungler is 3 seconds faster then mine, and die. come back to lane, and the lane is pushing. try to kind of farm, ward, my jungler can't do shit because the lane is pushing. Get ganked again, die again. They push lane into turret. I come back to lane, AND THE FUCKING LANE IS PUSHING AGAIN. Can't farm a single creep, irelia freezes 2m in front of her turret. Game over. And EVERY single time they pushed into my turret lateron, the lane pushed towards them afterwards. What is this bullshit. So much luck involved with in which direction the lane pushes. There is no way to steer it, it just sometimes randomly starts pushing, and if it does, you are fucked. So bullshit.

Next game: "xyz and me bot or double jungle"

And they pick Nunu Kog vs Sona Ez. This will be...fun.


Welcome to top lane. That isn't luck, that's great lane management on the enemy's part. Sucks though, if you get behind and the enemy knows how to manage how the wave pushes you are shit out of luck without some serious interference from your mid/jungle.
wat
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11554 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 22:57:44
November 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#6329
On November 21 2012 07:27 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 03:00 Simberto wrote:
Ok, what is this bullshit. I am toplane, where i don't want to be anyways. Get ganked because the enemy jungler is 3 seconds faster then mine, and die. come back to lane, and the lane is pushing. try to kind of farm, ward, my jungler can't do shit because the lane is pushing. Get ganked again, die again. They push lane into turret. I come back to lane, AND THE FUCKING LANE IS PUSHING AGAIN. Can't farm a single creep, irelia freezes 2m in front of her turret. Game over. And EVERY single time they pushed into my turret lateron, the lane pushed towards them afterwards. What is this bullshit. So much luck involved with in which direction the lane pushes. There is no way to steer it, it just sometimes randomly starts pushing, and if it does, you are fucked. So bullshit.

Next game: "xyz and me bot or double jungle"

And they pick Nunu Kog vs Sona Ez. This will be...fun.


Welcome to top lane. That isn't luck, that's great lane management on the enemy's part. Sucks though, if you get behind and the enemy knows how to manage how the wave pushes you are shit out of luck without some serious interference from your mid/jungle.


I am pretty sure it was not "good lane management on his part", since most of the time, he was not even involved. Basically, they killed me, then he backed, didn't even look at the creeps another time. Then the creeps slowly pushed into my turret while he backed, and when we both got there, the lane starts pushing back towards him. 2 waves of creeps run towards each other, noone is close, for no apparent reason my minions focusfire 1 of his while each of his decides to hit a different target, and one of the melee minions runs around in circles for no apparent reason. So one of my creeps survives until the next 2 waves appear, making my 7 minions fight against his 6. All of that without him ever doing anything at all. How do you "manage" that? It is random luck, at least at my skill level. Maybe pros can anticipate exactly how the wave will react 3 waves later, but i can't, and i am sure my opponents can't "manage the lane" 3 waves in advance either. It is just fucking bullshit.

Or, if we are at it, explain to me in detail how you would go ahead and "manage the lane" to push towards you. You can not lasthit, and thats about it. You can try weird stuff that involves clumping up his minions before the waves meet, (which he didn't) and that is about it. I am honestly curious here because people always tell you how you need to manage the lane, but never proceed to explain HOW you would do that. I get that i just have to be very careful when trading to avoid pushing the lane, but why does my lane always start pushing even if neither i or the enemy do anything, or in the worst case even if he lasthits and i don't.

And the worst part is that there is absolutely nothing at all you can do to stop it once it starts. One minion of yours killed one of his with 5% hp remaining? You are fucked. Nothing you can do, that one minion will now continue to kill another minion of his, and now the lane is pushing. Once the lane starts pushing, you are fucked if you are not ahead. And even if you are ahead, you are still fucked because now you are easily gankable. I wouldn't even know what you could do if your jungler just stays top. The best you can achieve is push the lane into the tower and hope that it randomly decides to push your way afterwards, if you manage to push it into tower exactly in such a way that it doesn't even touch the next creepwave, or makes 2 of his waves clump together.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 20 2012 23:57 GMT
#6330
On November 21 2012 07:56 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 07:27 Curu wrote:
On November 21 2012 03:00 Simberto wrote:
Ok, what is this bullshit. I am toplane, where i don't want to be anyways. Get ganked because the enemy jungler is 3 seconds faster then mine, and die. come back to lane, and the lane is pushing. try to kind of farm, ward, my jungler can't do shit because the lane is pushing. Get ganked again, die again. They push lane into turret. I come back to lane, AND THE FUCKING LANE IS PUSHING AGAIN. Can't farm a single creep, irelia freezes 2m in front of her turret. Game over. And EVERY single time they pushed into my turret lateron, the lane pushed towards them afterwards. What is this bullshit. So much luck involved with in which direction the lane pushes. There is no way to steer it, it just sometimes randomly starts pushing, and if it does, you are fucked. So bullshit.

Next game: "xyz and me bot or double jungle"

And they pick Nunu Kog vs Sona Ez. This will be...fun.


Welcome to top lane. That isn't luck, that's great lane management on the enemy's part. Sucks though, if you get behind and the enemy knows how to manage how the wave pushes you are shit out of luck without some serious interference from your mid/jungle.


I am pretty sure it was not "good lane management on his part", since most of the time, he was not even involved. Basically, they killed me, then he backed, didn't even look at the creeps another time. Then the creeps slowly pushed into my turret while he backed, and when we both got there, the lane starts pushing back towards him. 2 waves of creeps run towards each other, noone is close, for no apparent reason my minions focusfire 1 of his while each of his decides to hit a different target, and one of the melee minions runs around in circles for no apparent reason. So one of my creeps survives until the next 2 waves appear, making my 7 minions fight against his 6. All of that without him ever doing anything at all. How do you "manage" that? It is random luck, at least at my skill level. Maybe pros can anticipate exactly how the wave will react 3 waves later, but i can't, and i am sure my opponents can't "manage the lane" 3 waves in advance either. It is just fucking bullshit.

Or, if we are at it, explain to me in detail how you would go ahead and "manage the lane" to push towards you. You can not lasthit, and thats about it. You can try weird stuff that involves clumping up his minions before the waves meet, (which he didn't) and that is about it. I am honestly curious here because people always tell you how you need to manage the lane, but never proceed to explain HOW you would do that. I get that i just have to be very careful when trading to avoid pushing the lane, but why does my lane always start pushing even if neither i or the enemy do anything, or in the worst case even if he lasthits and i don't.

And the worst part is that there is absolutely nothing at all you can do to stop it once it starts. One minion of yours killed one of his with 5% hp remaining? You are fucked. Nothing you can do, that one minion will now continue to kill another minion of his, and now the lane is pushing. Once the lane starts pushing, you are fucked if you are not ahead. And even if you are ahead, you are still fucked because now you are easily gankable. I wouldn't even know what you could do if your jungler just stays top. The best you can achieve is push the lane into the tower and hope that it randomly decides to push your way afterwards, if you manage to push it into tower exactly in such a way that it doesn't even touch the next creepwave, or makes 2 of his waves clump together.

You can block the siege minion for a second or two, if the lanes are even it'll naturally push in your direction. pulling aggro from the minions causes it to pull in his. theres all kinds of little things you can do to make it push.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11554 Posts
November 21 2012 00:18 GMT
#6331
On November 21 2012 08:57 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 07:56 Simberto wrote:
On November 21 2012 07:27 Curu wrote:
On November 21 2012 03:00 Simberto wrote:
Ok, what is this bullshit. I am toplane, where i don't want to be anyways. Get ganked because the enemy jungler is 3 seconds faster then mine, and die. come back to lane, and the lane is pushing. try to kind of farm, ward, my jungler can't do shit because the lane is pushing. Get ganked again, die again. They push lane into turret. I come back to lane, AND THE FUCKING LANE IS PUSHING AGAIN. Can't farm a single creep, irelia freezes 2m in front of her turret. Game over. And EVERY single time they pushed into my turret lateron, the lane pushed towards them afterwards. What is this bullshit. So much luck involved with in which direction the lane pushes. There is no way to steer it, it just sometimes randomly starts pushing, and if it does, you are fucked. So bullshit.

Next game: "xyz and me bot or double jungle"

And they pick Nunu Kog vs Sona Ez. This will be...fun.


Welcome to top lane. That isn't luck, that's great lane management on the enemy's part. Sucks though, if you get behind and the enemy knows how to manage how the wave pushes you are shit out of luck without some serious interference from your mid/jungle.


I am pretty sure it was not "good lane management on his part", since most of the time, he was not even involved. Basically, they killed me, then he backed, didn't even look at the creeps another time. Then the creeps slowly pushed into my turret while he backed, and when we both got there, the lane starts pushing back towards him. 2 waves of creeps run towards each other, noone is close, for no apparent reason my minions focusfire 1 of his while each of his decides to hit a different target, and one of the melee minions runs around in circles for no apparent reason. So one of my creeps survives until the next 2 waves appear, making my 7 minions fight against his 6. All of that without him ever doing anything at all. How do you "manage" that? It is random luck, at least at my skill level. Maybe pros can anticipate exactly how the wave will react 3 waves later, but i can't, and i am sure my opponents can't "manage the lane" 3 waves in advance either. It is just fucking bullshit.

Or, if we are at it, explain to me in detail how you would go ahead and "manage the lane" to push towards you. You can not lasthit, and thats about it. You can try weird stuff that involves clumping up his minions before the waves meet, (which he didn't) and that is about it. I am honestly curious here because people always tell you how you need to manage the lane, but never proceed to explain HOW you would do that. I get that i just have to be very careful when trading to avoid pushing the lane, but why does my lane always start pushing even if neither i or the enemy do anything, or in the worst case even if he lasthits and i don't.

And the worst part is that there is absolutely nothing at all you can do to stop it once it starts. One minion of yours killed one of his with 5% hp remaining? You are fucked. Nothing you can do, that one minion will now continue to kill another minion of his, and now the lane is pushing. Once the lane starts pushing, you are fucked if you are not ahead. And even if you are ahead, you are still fucked because now you are easily gankable. I wouldn't even know what you could do if your jungler just stays top. The best you can achieve is push the lane into the tower and hope that it randomly decides to push your way afterwards, if you manage to push it into tower exactly in such a way that it doesn't even touch the next creepwave, or makes 2 of his waves clump together.

You can block the siege minion for a second or two, if the lanes are even it'll naturally push in your direction. pulling aggro from the minions causes it to pull in his. theres all kinds of little things you can do to make it push.


And what are all those little things? You named 2, i already knew of those. People always there there are dozens of things you can do to make a lane push the way you want, but they never say WHAT those dozens of things are.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
November 21 2012 00:53 GMT
#6332
Well.
Not kidding, I just got my 4th consecutive game where I had a leaver on my team. That's 4 4v5's in a row.
What are the odds.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 21 2012 01:34 GMT
#6333
When you're not jungling your jungler does nothing but feed and let both sides of the jungle get completely dominated
When you're not bot lane your bot lane feeds 0/9, 0/7 respectively in a "favored" matchup

What do soloQ
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 21 2012 02:03 GMT
#6334
How the fuck does top lane lose so fucking hard. 0/8 at the end of the stupid game. I'm 5/0/1 when we surrender because bot and top are both negative as hell, and can't fucking carry scrubs who don't want to be carried. Gotta be fucking kidding me.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
November 21 2012 02:09 GMT
#6335
Getting rolled one game, end up taking our heads out of our asses and playing together. Proceed to make amazing plays, amazing comeback. About to kill the nexus!!!!

Attempting to reconnect.

Fuck. Our. Life.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
November 21 2012 05:47 GMT
#6336
Playing against Syndra as morg with 250 ping is one of the worst experiences I've had in LoL to date.

Raindrops keep falling on my head.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
November 21 2012 06:01 GMT
#6337
On November 21 2012 06:46 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Nunu kog is stronk. Nothing wrong with that lane.


There's nothing wrong with that lane until you get poked to hell. Nothing like walking to lane, only to be greeted by a Q + power chord and a Q from Ezreal.
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
November 21 2012 06:21 GMT
#6338
Sigh, the one thing I really hate is when people are oblivious to how bad they played.

I didn't do great, but I didn't do terrible either until the derps started happening. 2-2 in lane against fizz as kat.

Vayne starts 6/1 builds PD, then Thornmail and Executioner's
Skarner derps and gives fizz a free kill at his blue.
We catch KHA at next blue and almost kill him. Instead of turning on the late backup of fizz and elise. Riven and Skarner decide to do a double turret dive and still manage not to kill Kha. I get destroyed by Fizz and Elise, then they kill Riven and Skarner.
Vayne constantly gets caught.
Skarner and Riven always chase Kha 1/3 of the map during team fights even though he's the farthest behind in the game.
We get Inhib and first baron. We've caught up.
Vayne gets caught and we lose 2 inhibs.
We get a 2 for 3 and Kha and Support are left alive. They're right at the inhib. Everyone recalls to save a turret even though I respond in 5 seconds. Literally, vayne is at the inhib and skarner moves back to wolves and recalls.
This gives them a free baron since we can't leave the base.
Vayne stands in front and gets arrowed.

gg, I didn't do great 6-9-10, but I know what I did wrong and hadn't really played kat vs fizz much. I shouldn't have been aggressive after 6. I shouldn't have followed the derps. I ended the game with 300 cs, which was 100 more than anyone else. This even after I was forced to roam after fizz's 3rd kill.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 06:28:11
November 21 2012 06:27 GMT
#6339
friend of mine, always invites me to play together. He plays whatever he wants and however he wants. Starts garen bot, no wards, line always pushed, builds straight up boots of speed and IE. And thats how he plays with every champion, not giving shit about anybody's opinion. ofc, he ends up feeding their adc and jungler 90% of time.

I sometimes wonder if his attitude is right, the LoL community is so horrible that you can't act any other way?
Its grack
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
November 21 2012 07:04 GMT
#6340
On November 21 2012 15:01 Tatari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 06:46 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Nunu kog is stronk. Nothing wrong with that lane.


There's nothing wrong with that lane until you get poked to hell. Nothing like walking to lane, only to be greeted by a Q + power chord and a Q from Ezreal.


lrn2dodgeskillshots
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