The Shikyo Memorial for QQ Therapy - Page 317

On November 20 2012 17:36 GhostOwl wrote:
WOW. Tried to start off on a clean slate.

So I just lost 4 games and won 1. So fucking pissed right now.

Lost game 1: Our Volibear refused to go support and decided to go top during queue, even after everyone decided that the last support role would go to Voli (who didn't say anything) and then locked-in which forced me to go support. Anyway, I decided to be nice, went support, and played well and got my ADC fed. We were doing really well but the game dragged on because this Voli fed top, and would ALWAYS get caught off position in late game teamfights so we had to 4v5 or defend. Needless to say, we lost this game

Lost game 2: Went Skarner. I was really worried about our Cait during the champ select because he was a new player ( I looked up his records) but everyone else was like it's okay, he'll be fine. This little trash had HALF the CS and kept d/c'ing late game. No ADC = No win teamfights late game.

Lost game 3: This game was a legit loss. I beat Fiora at top with my Riven, (she was a really good player, gave me trouble even though I beat her) and Fiora picked up a few kills from idiot teammates and she was just an offensive machine. She built ALL AD items, double BT, and ZERO defensive items, but no one on our team focused her down during late game teamfights. Their team actually had tanks, our team had zero tank champs.

Lost game 4: This game pissed me off so much. I DOMINATED top with Riven on noob Jax, 4-1'd him, and took top tower early. But our bot ashe was fucking terrible, noob ranked player AND he said he was lagging. He had 1/3 of CS of enemy ADC AND fed enemy MF to 9/1 at mid game. My end game score was 12-4 Riven, I was the ONLY one wreaking havoc on enemy champs and they focused me hard once they realized that our ADC was as much as a threat as their soraka. Did NOT deserve to lose this game.

If anyone wants to duo rank with a really excellent Riven player and excellent mid player, please add me Gengår (with the special a font)

On November 21 2012 03:00 Simberto wrote:
Ok, what is this bullshit. I am toplane, where i don't want to be anyways. Get ganked because the enemy jungler is 3 seconds faster then mine, and die. come back to lane, and the lane is pushing. try to kind of farm, ward, my jungler can't do shit because the lane is pushing. Get ganked again, die again. They push lane into turret. I come back to lane, AND THE FUCKING LANE IS PUSHING AGAIN. Can't farm a single creep, irelia freezes 2m in front of her turret. Game over. And EVERY single time they pushed into my turret lateron, the lane pushed towards them afterwards. What is this bullshit. So much luck involved with in which direction the lane pushes. There is no way to steer it, it just sometimes randomly starts pushing, and if it does, you are fucked. So bullshit.

Next game: "xyz and me bot or double jungle"

And they pick Nunu Kog vs Sona Ez. This will be...fun.

On November 21 2012 07:27 Curu wrote:


Welcome to top lane. That isn't luck, that's great lane management on the enemy's part. Sucks though, if you get behind and the enemy knows how to manage how the wave pushes you are shit out of luck without some serious interference from your mid/jungle.

On November 21 2012 07:56 Simberto wrote:


I am pretty sure it was not "good lane management on his part", since most of the time, he was not even involved. Basically, they killed me, then he backed, didn't even look at the creeps another time. Then the creeps slowly pushed into my turret while he backed, and when we both got there, the lane starts pushing back towards him. 2 waves of creeps run towards each other, noone is close, for no apparent reason my minions focusfire 1 of his while each of his decides to hit a different target, and one of the melee minions runs around in circles for no apparent reason. So one of my creeps survives until the next 2 waves appear, making my 7 minions fight against his 6. All of that without him ever doing anything at all. How do you "manage" that? It is random luck, at least at my skill level. Maybe pros can anticipate exactly how the wave will react 3 waves later, but i can't, and i am sure my opponents can't "manage the lane" 3 waves in advance either. It is just fucking bullshit.

Or, if we are at it, explain to me in detail how you would go ahead and "manage the lane" to push towards you. You can not lasthit, and thats about it. You can try weird stuff that involves clumping up his minions before the waves meet, (which he didn't) and that is about it. I am honestly curious here because people always tell you how you need to manage the lane, but never proceed to explain HOW you would do that. I get that i just have to be very careful when trading to avoid pushing the lane, but why does my lane always start pushing even if neither i or the enemy do anything, or in the worst case even if he lasthits and i don't.

And the worst part is that there is absolutely nothing at all you can do to stop it once it starts. One minion of yours killed one of his with 5% hp remaining? You are fucked. Nothing you can do, that one minion will now continue to kill another minion of his, and now the lane is pushing. Once the lane starts pushing, you are fucked if you are not ahead. And even if you are ahead, you are still fucked because now you are easily gankable. I wouldn't even know what you could do if your jungler just stays top. The best you can achieve is push the lane into the tower and hope that it randomly decides to push your way afterwards, if you manage to push it into tower exactly in such a way that it doesn't even touch the next creepwave, or makes 2 of his waves clump together.

On November 21 2012 08:57 arb wrote:

You can block the siege minion for a second or two, if the lanes are even it'll naturally push in your direction. pulling aggro from the minions causes it to pull in his. theres all kinds of little things you can do to make it push.

On November 21 2012 06:46 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Nunu kog is stronk. Nothing wrong with that lane.

On November 21 2012 15:01 Tatari wrote:


There's nothing wrong with that lane until you get poked to hell. Nothing like walking to lane, only to be greeted by a Q + power chord and a Q from Ezreal.