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On September 09 2012 23:33 Simberto wrote: I don't see how maxing q first on malph jungle is so bad? It gives the most singletarget damage he can get for his points, and increases the slow/speed, thus making his ganks more potent. You already clear ok with a point in w and 1-2 points in e, and your AS slow does not increase that much with additional levels, either. I think that maxing q is viable.
25 minutes in, he still isn't nearing 80 cs
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Top Olaf feeds Garen 0-8
Mid sion loses lane to TF, 2-6
Their jungle Shen is also fed
teamate complains me as 8-5 ad carry am spending alot of time not attacking in teamfights.
gosh i wonder why, maybe because if anyone on their team looks at me funny ill get instagibbed
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so bad SOOO bad. End up in a base race because after we took down both nexus turrets people were trying to end the game and get caught. My char is on his way back and.....stops moving? Allowing him to be caught and killed......2 people can't hold 4 and our ez walks all the way back down to their base and almost kills their nexus but not in time while I remain dead watching and wanting to go nuts.
If I were able to just you know keep moving i would have been able to defend our turrets or at least slow them down enough.
17-8-14 game wasted, all because of pathing or wtf ever controls champ movement.
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On September 10 2012 05:22 Slaughter wrote: so bad SOOO bad. End up in a base race because after we took down both nexus turrets people were trying to end the game and get caught. My char is on his way back and.....stops moving? Allowing him to be caught and killed......2 people can't hold 4 and our ez walks all the way back down to their base and almost kills their nexus but not in time while I remain dead watching and wanting to go nuts.
If I were able to just you know keep moving i would have been able to defend our turrets or at least slow them down enough.
17-8-14 game wasted, all because of pathing or wtf ever controls champ movement.
ur mouse
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It pisses me off when someone picking after you "calls" a position (mid, top, etc) then expects that they have the right to that spot.
Do people really expect this is the way it should work? Is your right to play a certain spot entirely decided by who can type "top" the fastest?
The correct answer is no, if the person ahead of you wants to play the spot you wanted, grow up and play something else. I mean, I don't mind if people ask to play something, but to call a spot and then bitch when the four other members don't respect it is BS.
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On September 10 2012 10:47 petered wrote: It pisses me off when someone picking after you "calls" a position (mid, top, etc) then expects that they have the right to that spot.
Do people really expect this is the way it should work? Is your right to play a certain spot entirely decided by who can type "top" the fastest?
The correct answer is no, if the person ahead of you wants to play the spot you wanted, grow up and play something else. I mean, I don't mind if people ask to play something, but to call a spot and then bitch when the four other members don't respect it is BS. This is the internet. Everyone is entitled and right all the time.
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Most fucking annoying thing ever trying to kill an Ahri+Ez late game. hurr durr heres meh 345345345 blinks. UNOCTCHME
Biggest joke honestly. Hate playing top laners that simply cannot stick on them because they get a blink in addition to all the stupid amounts of cc that go on you when you try to kill them. Slowed, knocked up, silenced, exhausted, etc. So fucking frustrating.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
10 games won 1 TT
lost 65 elo :<
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Well what the fuck can I do as support sona. Get my carry redic fed in laning phase...place wards everywhere and having their team with at least 5 oracles throughout the game keep clearing (meanwhile no one else on the team buys wards or oracles). Hit pretty great ults and have no one realize this and fight. Get blamed because of not having "any wards" (counted I put at least 20 down and I didn't start counting until I was constantly bitched at).
Go 7-7-21 and have more kills then our top/mid/jungle combined (ad carry had 17 kills hue). Fuck this worst losing streak of my life fallen over 150 elo the past 4 days. Every single way you could lose I have lost in this period. Bad play (on my part and teammates), 1 mistake that turns a game, just flat out troll feeders and afkers or just my whole team feeds and I dominate but I can't quite push them over the edge (a game as Karthus 17-6-14 game decided on by the fact that I must have misclicked and champ stopped moving and got caught which led directly to the loss instead of our victory after I PICKED ALL 4 ON MY BACK AND DRAGGED THEM KICKING AND SCREAMING TO MAKE A COME BACK). Hell even very baaad games on my part where I just got raped straight up.
Ok wtf game just dodged was just mind boggling how people don't know about team comps and champ selection or proper summoner spells. I hate solo Q.
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Last game of the day, decide to do ranked. Fucker locks a Nasus with revive. Figure "oh great, a fucking troll game." So w/e I dont give a shit at this point and decide to Lanewick with tank masteries. We get raped in lane because the Ashe im laning with is a moron and keeps auto-attacking anyways. I feel a bit better knowing that if I had played serious as a real support, it would have had the same outcome. So what has Nasus been doing in the meantime? going 2/10 mid. Yeah. Idiot kept cursing at me in mixture of broken english and horrible portuguese. Rather funny.
It's games like this that make me remember why I fucking uninstalled in the first place.
Edit: Doing some Tribunal cases for some extra ip before I go to bed. Whats with all these idiots reporting for language? I don't care if someone says fuck or shit, I care if people are throwing the game on purpose. If language bothers you that much, put on the fucking filter. Such a waste of time doing these.
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lost nearly 100 elo on the weekend
all but 2 of my losses were throws. and those 2 that weren't were my fault anyway so fml.
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On September 10 2012 17:34 kainzero wrote: lost nearly 100 elo on the weekend
all but 2 of my losses were throws. and those 2 that weren't were my fault anyway so fml.
i dont like how the word "throw" is used. most of the time it is good play by your opponent and bad play by your team. same goes for "feeding".
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On September 10 2012 19:54 clickrush wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 17:34 kainzero wrote: lost nearly 100 elo on the weekend
all but 2 of my losses were throws. and those 2 that weren't were my fault anyway so fml. i dont like how the word "throw" is used. most of the time it is good play by your opponent and bad play by your team. same goes for "feeding".
Well, there are a ton of throws, especially in the ELO i'm at.
People get ahead and then think they can do anything and win until suddenly the opponent is ahead. Chasing opponents after teamfights across the whole map when the rest of the team can't keep up, pushing into towers in 5v5, initiating into 4v5s, ...
Nothing annoys me more than someone saying "finish quick" when we are just slightly ahead and then throwing every teamfight 4v5 because one of the teammembers is not yet in position.
The biggest throw i was in 2 days ago we were 5 kills and quite a lot of CS ahead, it was minute 23, Olaf pinged Baron and says "quick" while the enemy team was taking Dragon. Me and my support were in botlane, Top was in base, Mid was someone who can't kill baron fast, don't remember exactly who.
I said "we can't kill him fast enough", Olaf spams pings until everyone is at baron. Enemy team of course finished Dragon long before, their Blitz happened to try to ward up on Baron when it was at 50% and then they aced us in the Baron pit, take Baron and an inhibitor before we respawned. After that we were behind, they played safe and so we ended up losing.
Nothing makes games last longer than trying to win games more quickly.
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Typical ranked games today:
6 games as 4th or 5th pick, so I have been jungling or supporting all games.
Every solo top i had goes TelePort and never used it, at 1300 elo, they pick teleport to come back to lane faster after dying
Ennemy bot lane pick blitz/graves, my 3rd pick ally pick ashe with ignite/heal: 1-9 at 20 mn (something similar for the taric support).
First pick goes kassadin cause hey, he's not banned and even if you never played Kassa it's auto-win cause it's super op. Too bad ennemy picked talon and I was there looking my double-dorans kassa 21 mn into the game.
Finally we have a good team with Malph jungler, Riven top, ryze mid, graves and me as sona bot. Too bad, top d/c at 1mn and never came back. Team doesn't want to play so surrender 20 even if we were slightly ahead 4v5.
Today was a good day.
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Picture this: I'm playing Nunu top, not so uncommon for me. I'm against a Jax, and I kill him twice, zoning him out really damn hard. In fact, I force him to lane switch with his Ahri, who I beat anyway because I dodge all her skillshots and then just outfarm her. I've basically shut down both their bruiser and their AP carry. At this point, I have both Jax and Ahri in my lane, and Amumu camping the brush. It takes 3 enemies to zone me out effectively.
Am I bragging? No, I'm complaining. Why?
Because while this is going on, the other FOUR PEOPLE ON MY TEAM CAN'T STOP THE DUO BOT LANE. That's right, I'm steadily holding my own (read: hugging tower and eating minions) against more than half their team, and they can't stop a Vayne from getting fed despite having literally double the numbers.
Boggling.
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Uhh just had a fucking stupid game. Was rengar top vs irelia. I had at least 3x his cs at all points and even 4x at one point. I remember him having only boots and 8% crit when I had boots rengar item brutalizer and ruby crystal. Well we lost but that's not the main point. What was retarded was the fact that the enemy team and partly my team said we lost because of me. I mean obviously it's not enough that I had 3x his cs. And well obviously I didn't throw the game by overextending. Couldn't tell whether they were serious or trolling. The game before that was funny too. I was irelia vs rengar and well he maxed e and spammed the manaless spell. He also had 3x my cs. My team said "report irelia for trolling" Couldn't tell at all whether they were serious or trolling. I mean if I can't farm for 2 waves then clearly it's my fault. There was one thing though. We didn't really have a jungler and even if we had he was useless
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On September 10 2012 10:47 petered wrote: It pisses me off when someone picking after you "calls" a position (mid, top, etc) then expects that they have the right to that spot.
Do people really expect this is the way it should work? Is your right to play a certain spot entirely decided by who can type "top" the fastest?
The correct answer is no, if the person ahead of you wants to play the spot you wanted, grow up and play something else. I mean, I don't mind if people ask to play something, but to call a spot and then bitch when the four other members don't respect it is BS.
Do you remember when you were in early and middle school and you'd have some break time to play with toys and all your teammates would run and fight to pick the coolest toys first? Or when you were preparing the play for Christmas' audition and all the kids would yell calling the coolest role? Or when you went on some school trip to a candy factory and the guide would ask "Who wants to try a candy?" and all the kids would bumrush to him to get the candy first even though every single one of them was going to get a candy in the end?
Well, the kids you meet in League of Legends are already in high school or college, but their mental capacity and maturity is still anchored back there. If all the roles are still available, they'll call them out asap to claim them as theirs, and if denied, they'll make as much noise and threats they can to get them. If that doesn't work, they could very well boycott the whole team. To me, this is because they're still in that stage of life where they have everything they wish delivered by their parents and haven't faced reality yet, thus not understanding that others may be above you at certain times and that you have to suck it up and adapt to it and work hard until you can reach that higher spot by yourself.
I'm not justifying their behavior, as they're old enough to be responsible for their own deeds, but I think that, as with almost everything, there's a logical reason behind that phenomena. If something, we should blame modern societies and the spoiled way most kids grow (and the kids themselves for being retards 95% of which won't help the world or its people improve in any way during their whole lifes). I don't think that can be eradicated; the only way I can think of is either making the game pay to play, in which case only the quantity would lower, the proportion would remain the same and the experience would still be terrible, either climbing to a high ELO as high ELO requires a player to be skilled and that requires to have consistency, sacrifice and a certain degree of thought complexity that most teenagers are unable to reach, but you will still find a lot of college retards capable of achieveing high skill but suffering from the same immature behavior (ever heard of Cris?).
I'm sorry for the off-topic, you can count this as an extended form of QQ about the community
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On September 10 2012 23:23 qtiehunter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 10:47 petered wrote: It pisses me off when someone picking after you "calls" a position (mid, top, etc) then expects that they have the right to that spot.
Do people really expect this is the way it should work? Is your right to play a certain spot entirely decided by who can type "top" the fastest?
The correct answer is no, if the person ahead of you wants to play the spot you wanted, grow up and play something else. I mean, I don't mind if people ask to play something, but to call a spot and then bitch when the four other members don't respect it is BS. Do you remember when you were in early and middle school and you'd have some break time to play with toys and all your teammates would run and fight to pick the coolest toys first? Or when you were preparing the play for Christmas' audition and all the kids would yell calling the coolest role? Or when you went on some school trip to a candy factory and the guide would ask "Who wants to try a candy?" and all the kids would bumrush to him to get the candy first even though every single one of them was going to get a candy in the end? Well, the kids you meet in League of Legends are already in high school or college, but their mental capacity and maturity is still anchored back there. If all the roles are still available, they'll call them out asap to claim them as theirs, and if denied, they'll make as much noise and threats they can to get them. If that doesn't work, they could very well boycott the whole team. To me, this is because they're still in that stage of life where they have everything they wish delivered by their parents and haven't faced reality yet, thus not understanding that others may be above you at certain times and that you have to suck it up and adapt to it and work hard until you can reach that higher spot by yourself. I'm not justifying their behavior, as they're old enough to be responsible for their own deeds, but I think that, as with almost everything, there's a logical reason behind that phenomena. If something, we should blame modern societies and the spoiled way most kids grow (and the kids themselves for being retards 95% of which won't help the world or its people improve in any way during their whole lifes). I don't think that can be eradicated; the only way I can think of is either making the game pay to play, in which case only the quantity would lower, the proportion would remain the same and the experience would still be terrible, either climbing to a high ELO as high ELO requires a player to be skilled and that requires to have consistency, sacrifice and a certain degree of thought complexity that most teenagers are unable to reach, but you will still find a lot of college retards capable of achieveing high skill but suffering from the same immature behavior (ever heard of Cris?). I'm sorry for the off-topic, you can count this as an extended form of QQ about the community 
Wow, you're pretty forgiving with these childish bastards. That's what I call attitude, kudos to you.
However, one can try to find reasons that cause this behaviour by analyzing the educational environment but I am of the opinion that every human being can decide for itself how it acts and why it acts like it acts, independently of what it might have learned or not learned regarding social aspects, virtue and morale. You are right in that many of the LoL players are missing respect because they might have not experienced it, but they will still know / feel that there exists something like respect so they can decide for themsevels if they practice it during social interactions or not.
So in my eyes, if someone acts like shit, they are shit (for me).
I assume that they have a sane mind and follow common sense (= the respect I show for the stranger I get matched with), so if they don't, it is their own decision to not do so.
I learned to ignore stupidity & idiocy at their finest so I could leave 1000ish ELO and advance to 1400ish, but until now, I have not found a way for me to deal with those arrogant cunts that are so full of themselves that their ego almost makes them burst (sometimes I have the impression that Riot should increase the ELO thresholds; I have the feeling that S1 gold is not even comparable in the slightest to S2 gold).
If I am last pick, I will play support if needed even if I usually ask for "ad if possible tyvm". That's about 9/10 games at silver ELO. So on the other hand, when I am higher pick and get to play AD, I expect one of the other four players to play support and seriously try to win (no dude, Olaf + Clairvoyance / Exhaust does not make you a support) just as they expect me to play what is needed if I am last pick.
Unfortunately, I get disappointed more often than not which is why either stick to ARAMs or only play as a full 5 man premade. I might be too oldschool or conservative for the internet's daily routine so this is the way I make my favourite game enjoyable for me.
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forgot how bad everyone is at AD carry.
1800s is impossible to get back out of.
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On September 11 2012 04:15 Soloside wrote: forgot how bad everyone is at AD carry.
1800s is impossible to get back out of.
I wish...
1100s: Go 5/0 in lane as AD carry, my support is 0/6. Teamscore 5/15. Almost every game.
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