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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
September 01 2012 06:06 GMT
#5081
I don't get how Riots MM works. At low elo its like either me and my team are waaay better then the other team, or in this case for the last 6 games me and everyone on my team is outclassed by the other team.
Never Knows Best.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
September 01 2012 06:27 GMT
#5082
On September 01 2012 15:06 Slaughter wrote:
I don't get how Riots MM works. At low elo its like either me and my team are waaay better then the other team, or in this case for the last 6 games me and everyone on my team is outclassed by the other team.


At lower elos there are a lot of the people who might be decent w/ just a couple of champs and know how to win lane. That doesn't mean they know how to ward, have map awareness, or know how to properly teamfight. However, if you get the group of the people who can win lane together the games get like that.

That's how I've always felt about it. There are a lot of the people who think they don't belong in ELO hell because they carry, but they still have massive flaws in their game. Get a few of those guys on the same team against the people who might be more well rounded but all lose lane then.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
September 01 2012 06:27 GMT
#5083
What the hell. I'm playing one of my best games ever with Ahri, dodging Fizz's abilities and Malphite's ganks without ever having to flash or ulti, and bot somehow manages to go a collective 0-19. At the end of the game, our jungler, adc, and support were all combined 0-24, and we lost 8-32. Only a decent Pantheon kept me from quitting the game.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
September 01 2012 06:51 GMT
#5084
On September 01 2012 15:27 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 15:06 Slaughter wrote:
I don't get how Riots MM works. At low elo its like either me and my team are waaay better then the other team, or in this case for the last 6 games me and everyone on my team is outclassed by the other team.


At lower elos there are a lot of the people who might be decent w/ just a couple of champs and know how to win lane. That doesn't mean they know how to ward, have map awareness, or know how to properly teamfight. However, if you get the group of the people who can win lane together the games get like that.

That's how I've always felt about it. There are a lot of the people who think they don't belong in ELO hell because they carry, but they still have massive flaws in their game. Get a few of those guys on the same team against the people who might be more well rounded but all lose lane then.


Yea it seems that way. In all those 5 games it was just like the other team from 1-5 was better at all aspects of the game then us.
Never Knows Best.
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 11:52:10
September 01 2012 08:22 GMT
#5085
You have to remember the people who go 5-0 one game are probablly the same people that will go 0-5 the next. A lot of people play recklessly making them ridiculously vulnerable to jungle ganks and counterplays. They play so aggressive regardless of the situation that the lane will snowball ridiculously in either way depending on if the jungler and the enemy laner have any idea how to punish it. Best way to deal with it is to just camp their lanes if you jungle.
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
September 01 2012 11:44 GMT
#5086
On September 01 2012 17:22 Hakanfrog wrote:
You have to remember the people who go 5-0 one game are probablly the same people that will go 0-5 the next. A lot of people play recklessly making the ridiculously vulnerable to jungle ganks and counterplays. They play so aggressive regardless of the situation the lane will snowball ridiculously in either way depending on if the jungler and the enemy laner have any idea how to punish it. Best way to deal with it is to just camp their lanes if you jungle.


This.

Those are the guys that call champ X their "premium pick" because they went 10/0 one game only because the enemy failed to punish them for their stupidity. Then, when they get to a certain ELO, they get wrecked over and over again with champ X and change their status message to "can't escape ELO HELL".

Sad thing is that they won't spot the mistakes in their play and accuse everybody else for their failure.

bakarofl
Profile Joined December 2011
49 Posts
September 01 2012 13:16 GMT
#5087
Currently on a 7 game loss streak, about 4 of them because someone dc/afk. And one because i had a guy who's name was "tribunalCanSMD" or something along those lines and is apparently trying to get back at riot for banning his main....

was not a good day...
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 13:30:27
September 01 2012 13:27 GMT
#5088
I just had the weirdest game ever o_0
After about 5-10 minutes everyone grouped bot/dragon and we started posturing. Entire game was a poke fight but no one wanted to leave to go to their lanes because a big teamfight could happen at any moment. Eventually I was like "sry guys but I have a lane" and I went top. Then the teamfight starts and we go 1-4 and kass stops me from taking the tower and nothing happens bot.

We go on to win. So why am I complaining? I fed kass like all 4 of his kills T_T

Also I must be doing something wrong as jayce. I picked jayce into tryn because I wanted to bully tryn from a range, but I knew he had a gap closer and a slow, so champs like kayle/pre-6 nid might have a hard time getting away. I considered picking jax but then thought that if I picked melee fights I'd be vulnerable to shaco and kass ganks. I should've picked teemo, except later the enemy team had a guy pick teemo and he went AP bot teemo :D free win! TL:DR I as jayce sucks vs tryn
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 14:52:36
September 01 2012 13:44 GMT
#5089
pick cait bot 2 games.

first game, nauti support. gets the worst engages, goes 0/10/3 or something, starts wards but never buys more. Run in, get chunked, run back. "run", as in, get slowed to death by ashe. 0 Chance to poke with cait.
Second game, sion support. 0/7 in 24 min, starts dorans ring, buys no wards throughout the game. vs blitzcrank graves bot. hookcity.

Ok, have to pick acknowledged op char to convince team to try and win.
Third game, morgana and galio argue for mid and both lock. 1 guy randoms swain. Ok, whatever, pick ezreal and solo.
5-14, 1-10, 4-9, 5-9 (shaco jungle, lvl8 20min into the game, duh). i go 9/3/3 and just call it quits as galio has already idled at fountain for the last 10 min spamming surrender.


Lalala at least the ip boost transforms these games into wins ip-wise.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
September 01 2012 15:25 GMT
#5090
I'm tired of Rammus junglers, Sejuani supports, RoA first Gragas players, Madred first Ashes and stuff like that.
They cost me 100 ELO in 2 days...
Why does every mentally handicapped person have a friend who installs the game for him?
"My spoon is too big."
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
September 01 2012 16:11 GMT
#5091
Pop quiz:
Your mid kennen says "Kassadin is starting to snowball, can you please gank him", what do you do?
A) Try to help by ganking kassadin
B) Completely ignore mid and only gank top/bot
C) Leave Game
D) Start intentionally feeding.

Seems like an easy question, but at 1200 elo they get it wrong EVERY DAMN TIME
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
September 01 2012 16:22 GMT
#5092
It's an easy question.

BDEC

Gank other lanes when you know kassadin is missing, thus intentionally feed their whole team.
Then you apply the chat-joker, marked E, "OMG NOOB MID REPORT SO BAD"
And leave.
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
September 01 2012 16:22 GMT
#5093
Well Kassadin is really hard to gank so A) would be the best option I guess.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 01 2012 16:34 GMT
#5094
B) is the correct option in 98% of the circumstances.
I had this really annoying game with bottom lane duoQ. I was doing pretty well for myself, 5/0/4 at about 15 minutes or so, but those were off of ganks in middle and top. Bottom lane was warded from all 3 gank routes, but bottom kept crying for ganks, calling me "worst skarner ever" and "worst troll". They didn't buy a single pink ward whole game . Enemy ezreal goes legendary shortly thereafter and we lose. nya.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 01 2012 19:49 GMT
#5095
I think 95% of the low elo population has no idea how to react to an invade. Enemy team trying to steal blue buff? Better try to take it back without a ward in blue bush. Or just not react at all upon seeing the enemy team and die outright, then try to fight them 4v5. -_-
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 02 2012 00:15 GMT
#5096
Vayne recalls right before a 5v5... rages at me for everything I do as Hecarim, even though I finish with the best score on my team and saved the game after her stupid recall that ended with 3 of our team members dying. Among other retarded stuff.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
September 02 2012 06:20 GMT
#5097
I just played a pretty bad game as Blitzcrank. No matter what I did, I'd always manage to hook Leona, forcing a fight that we always lost. The one time I hooked Kog'Maw, we still managed to lose the teamfight. All I wanted to do was get a first win of the day, but now there's something wrong with the game and I'm perpetually stuck in queue. After 15 minites of trying to get into a game, I finally gave up to go play CS:GO. And what do you know? It wouldn't load. Neither would any of the other CS games or SC2. Ugh, what a day.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
King of Blades
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States94 Posts
September 02 2012 08:07 GMT
#5098
Rape bot lane, 9/1 in lane, I have IE zeal while enemy cait has zerks double dblade and a vamp.

Jungle lee is the worst fucking excuse for a lee player i've ever seen, every single ult saves someone's life. Top poppy is outcsed by my duo q support. We lose, because it's impossible to win a 3v5 with a 12 and fucking 1 irelia on the other team, triple killing my top mid and jungle when ganked. Taric support, SUPPORT, has TWO THOUSAND FUCKING GOLD MORE THAN TOP AND JUNGLE.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6215 Posts
September 02 2012 08:57 GMT
#5099
Whatever. Most useless evelynn I've ever seen. Goes wraiths + red into doing something random, I don't know what the fuck happened here, and then ganks mid. I'm karthus vs a morde pushed to my turret. What happens. I exhaust+wall and then spam Qs and level 4 morde just nukes down the level 2 evelynn and then flashes away. I don't fucking know how she's still level 2 at this point. Afterwards she proceeds to die twice to blue before I go leash it for her. I thought first time was just because she was low health to start but nope, just that fucking bad.

1600 ELO meh.
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
September 02 2012 09:26 GMT
#5100
Team has Ashe, Alistar jungle and Leona support. Ridiculously good initiation, but nobody will initiate. Just get poked by Nidalee spears all day. Leona gets poked all the way down from full to a couple bars while the rest of the team is at half health from all her poke, then their Noct ults in and starts the team fight. This wasn't even near their tower or anything, we'd have won if they'd just stopped screwing around and running around in circles getting poked by spears.
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