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On July 28 2012 17:59 TheLink wrote:
I gotta get in on this bot discussion. Played vs intermediate bots to practice my alistar combos. My lane is vs Morg/Sivir WTF. Bots have crazy good reactions too, no combo practice for me 'till laning breaks. I ALWAYS get hard-countered in blind pick, even by the fucking AI.
Also Mundo Bot OP with his intermediate bot gold mid-game. Had a tryhard talon that game too kept swearing at me in broken english, rest of the team made fun of him for tryharding though.
Bot reaction times are exactly that, inhuman. I remember that i tried fiddle jungle at around level 20 (which i would never recommend to anyone, fiddle jungle nearly made me hate jungling, play something else if you want to try jungle), and every time i ultied in, all the bots instantly turned around and focussed me. With humans you always get some reaction time, with bots you are just instantly focussed, and die so fast.
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i messed up in a match as trist. fight at baron, ryze comes up behind and i hit R instead of W, and i don't smart cast so i'm wondering why i'm not jumping. instead of W - flash to safety i'm now dead at the beginning of the fight and i was the only farmed one who could've brought it back.
the team blames someone else for the loss though. i dunno what to think.
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Nearly pentakill the entire enemy team multiple times as Twitch with a Black Cleaver and phantom dancer... suicidal Akali who attacks at the worst times is like lol your items are retarded. Thing is nearly every team fight they line up in a nice line for me, so I coat them all with -45 armor and max stacks of deadly venom, followed by expunge. It does so much damage, was working on my IE (and had enough money for it almost, one or two more waves) when my team decides to surrender when the enemy team has no inhibitors down, do not have baron, and if Sona would ult at the proper (ie, right before they jump me) we would be acing them no problem.
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I have yet to see a team with Zyra lose. I'm playing normals so I can see higher elo players having less trouble. She is so fail safe against your average pub unless you catch her out of position and pick her off. just E until someone is caught and either chunk them or ult them to their death. I found it hard to engage even after E misses because getting closer just results in her throwing a Q and you disengage.
Right now, I can't tell if it's friends who pick champs with weak initiation/ lack of Shyruella to punish a missed E, or just every single Zyra I've played with/against are amazing players. I've only seen her "lose" the lane twice but still destroy people in team fights... the rest of the time she just dominates in lane and snowballs.
Anyone else experiencing something similar?
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I'm at a loss for words I guess. Went 4-0 in lane. We get baron late game and ez jumps over the wall into all 5 of them like a boss to initiate.
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Pretty much how I feel right now.
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i always firstpick top or mid. if i get counterpicked i can always yell at jungler all game, easy
trading for noobs or you want Garen with smite because trade lag, lol client so gud
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fuuuuuuuuuuuu mirror matchups. Why can't I play one game as Zyra not vs Zyra zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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On July 30 2012 04:17 Cloud9157 wrote:
fuuuuuuuuuuuu mirror matchups. Why can't I play one game as Zyra not vs Zyra zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Because you keep playing blind pick?
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Your team had 34 kills.
You participated in only 7 of them.
It was a 36 minute game.
Why are you complaining? o_O
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On July 30 2012 04:18 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 04:17 Cloud9157 wrote:
fuuuuuuuuuuuu mirror matchups. Why can't I play one game as Zyra not vs Zyra zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Because you keep playing blind pick?
Didn't know blind pick means auto mirror.
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On July 30 2012 04:45 Cloud9157 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 04:18 Requizen wrote:On July 30 2012 04:17 Cloud9157 wrote:
fuuuuuuuuuuuu mirror matchups. Why can't I play one game as Zyra not vs Zyra zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Because you keep playing blind pick? Didn't know blind pick means auto mirror.
Well if you're playing the newest champions then it's very likely that it will be. 
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Wow, felt generous and picked support as third pick. My ad carry corki engages into botlane altough i ping him to back, as nautilus is making a lvl 2 gank. my ward spotted him 10 seconds before he comes through tribush, i had the time to ping, move back to my turret and headbutt him back into the jungle. Then i realize that my corki never backed.
He just tried to engage against mf/soraka alone and died. At least no assist for naut!
Now, i think maybe he was just so focused, he failed and game turns into good. NHow he just walks into midlane where our Ahri is farming and last hits without saying a word.
Edit: And here, as told in a prophecy by wiser man, am i pissed at the shere amount of stupidity of my teams and the number of losses i had.
The absolute best was the last game. 60 minutes game, they have an advantage, but it's manageable. Every fight is close, barons on both sides, the full package. Then, we lose a teamfight, with blitzcrank and tank olaf still standing at baron pit. both have around 300 hp. And my team surrenders. WTF?!?!?!?!?
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Well I just won a game hard. Won lane hard too. Last pick nasus says he will go AD in start menu. I guess he was having fun. I think he was a duo with maokai. He built correctly. But he wouldn't let me pick tristana as our AD and I was confused who was top so I picked kayle.
But all game in chat he's spamming that I'm taking cs and killstealing. I honestly had a lot of fun with this. Maokai joined in on the hilarity yelling NOOB KAYLE and trying his darndest to sound serious. We get like 4/5 kills on teemo ashe before our first deaths bot lane. wtf was this game?
Game was obviously in our advantage but when gp and I push bot's frozen lane nasus whines again and threatens to afk even though we only did it to take bot tower. I tell him to go in the jungle as all the camps are up. Nasus does not group with the team very often, only when there are kills to be found.
Often we have to back off from our pushes because he's going to take our red buff while we're pushing.
I hope that nasus gets reported though. Next time I'll just ignore.
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On July 30 2012 04:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:Your team had 34 kills. You participated in only 7 of them. It was a 36 minute game. Why are you complaining? o_O
My team had 45 deaths. I participated in two of them. That's over death per minute. At the 15 min mark we already had 20 deaths and I participated in none of those.
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On July 30 2012 12:21 icemanzdoinwork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 04:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:Your team had 34 kills. You participated in only 7 of them. It was a 36 minute game. Why are you complaining? o_O My team had 45 deaths. I participated in two of them. That's over death per minute. At the 15 min mark we already had 20 deaths and I participated in none of those.
so you sat in a lane and farmed to make sure your score looked good?
i bet if you had participated in more than 7 of those 34 kills you might have won that game
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So I get into game, I'm last pick. That's fine, I call jungle, no one else does. The second to last pick (guy right above me) says nothing the whole time while we actively talk about champs, picks, and counters. We're first pick, so me and the guy above me pick at the same time. His name, I finally realize, is Dildomuncher. So I peg him at around 13 years old.
I pick Skarner, he grabs Xin with Smite. I say I called jungle, and that if he wanted it he should have said something (actually being rather polite), and get this as a response:
"I don't care I jungle. I'm not reading anything you fags say anyway. Besides, you're last pick."
I sigh and pick Soraka. The others applaud me for being the bigger person and we try to move on. When we get in, Xin buys Vamp Scepter and goes towards blue. We're all obviously confused, but shrug and go on. Then Veigar asks:
"Can I get the second blue? I'll need it pretty early"
"No I need the first 3 otherwise I can't clear the jungle"
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We calmly try to explain to him why that's bullshit, but he yells at us. Starts blue with no wolves, more facepalms to be had.
4 failed ganks on his part later (none of which happened bot, which was fun vs Sona/Graves), we understandably start complaining. He, of course, blames it on everyone else.
Xin's build at this point? Vamp Scepter, Boots of Swiftness and a Zeal.
He starts roaming the enemy jungle and dies repeatedly.
Weeeeeeeelp.
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On July 30 2012 12:36 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 12:21 icemanzdoinwork wrote:On July 30 2012 04:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:Your team had 34 kills. You participated in only 7 of them. It was a 36 minute game. Why are you complaining? o_O My team had 45 deaths. I participated in two of them. That's over death per minute. At the 15 min mark we already had 20 deaths and I participated in none of those. so you sat in a lane and farmed to make sure your score looked good? i bet if you had participated in more than 7 of those 34 kills you might have won that game
So I should have just left top lane 7 minutes into the game? Really? Was my presence bot going to stop them from double turret diving Ashe Everytime they respawed? Wish I would have known that 3 bot is the way to play.
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On July 30 2012 13:08 icemanzdoinwork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 12:36 arb wrote:On July 30 2012 12:21 icemanzdoinwork wrote:On July 30 2012 04:30 Zergneedsfood wrote:Your team had 34 kills. You participated in only 7 of them. It was a 36 minute game. Why are you complaining? o_O My team had 45 deaths. I participated in two of them. That's over death per minute. At the 15 min mark we already had 20 deaths and I participated in none of those. so you sat in a lane and farmed to make sure your score looked good? i bet if you had participated in more than 7 of those 34 kills you might have won that game So I should have just left top lane 7 minutes into the game? Really? Was my presence bot going to stop them from double turret diving Ashe Everytime they respawed? Wish I would have known that 3 bot is the way to play.
Its a team game... if you going to sit and AFK farm top with your Riven how can you complain about the rest of your team doing poorly? Did you use your 50 CS advantage on Riven to take any objectives? His tower, mid tower, enemy jungle creeps, dragon?
I mean, gratz, you had many farms but many farms doesn't win games. Many objectives do. How can you complain about your team not making plays when you didn't make any plays yourself? If the other team is farming champions, how do you expect to win farming minions?
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Why is it that 90% of the time that i get a Blitz Support he ends up turning the lane into a 1v2 by being completely useless?
I should just dodge every time someone locks him in, that champ might be the greatest support ever in <1200 ELO but after a certain point people just seem to know how to play against him and suddenly he's completely useless. He doesn't provide healing, protection, harass or a dps boost for the AD so unless the opponent messes up he might as well not even be in lane - sometimes it would even be easier if he wasn't.
No other support makes me as angry as an allied blitz -.-
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