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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On July 23 2025 19:57 MJG wrote: Zoun's Disruptor usage has been pretty terrible. He's hitting his own units a lot. It just feels like a terrible comp choice against a guy who really wants to play multi prong bio and kite you rather than finding big exchanges. | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1451 Posts
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Poopi
France12925 Posts
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MJG
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CicadaSC
United States1922 Posts
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tigera6
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CicadaSC
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darklycid
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Sameday
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Obviously it's easy for me to be an armchair judge when the players are drooling for the huge prizepool. It makes it hard to be a ByuN fan when the decision making is so bad. Glad he's out early, though, Zoun was being 'friendly' by forgetting that high templars existed in 2 of the games. Hopefully Showtime gets knocked out quickly as well. The King of Snooze games. | ||
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1158 Posts
On July 23 2025 20:14 tigera6 wrote: I feel like the moment Terran see Storm on the way, just turtling home until you got mass Ghost out, unless you can dodge like Clem. turtling against storm is generally not a good idea because you need space to kite and split. you risk getting boxed into a tight space. you don't want storms anywhere near your SCVs and you don't want to fight vs storm with too many body-blockers around, like a big fat command center on the ground. that's why terrans lift their CC - not because they're trying to evacuate, but because they need more room to split maybe with tanks / mines you can sit back and turtle for a bit, but not with pure bio. with pure bio it's generally preferable to meet toss in the middle of the map | ||
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darklycid
3547 Posts
On July 23 2025 20:19 SHODAN wrote: turtling against storm is generally not a good idea because you need space to kite and split. you risk getting boxed into a tight space. you don't want storms anywhere near your SCVs and you don't want to fight vs storm with too many body-blockers around, like a big fat command center on the ground. that's why terrans lift their CC - not because they're trying to evacuate, but because they need more room to split maybe with tanks / mines you can sit back and turtle for a bit, but not with pure bio But fighting smaller scale on the map doesnt feel Like its very good either. | ||
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Poopi
France12925 Posts
On July 23 2025 20:14 tigera6 wrote: I feel like the moment Terran see Storm on the way, just turtling home until you got mass Ghost out, unless you can dodge like Clem. You can’t turtle vs protoss their economy grows really fast then you are overrun by AoE | ||
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darklycid
3547 Posts
On July 23 2025 20:20 Poopi wrote: You can’t turtle vs protoss their economy grows really fast then you are overrun by AoE Eh the current storm builds are kinda saccing Eco/Upgrades for more Units. | ||
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1158 Posts
On July 23 2025 20:19 darklycid wrote: But fighting smaller scale on the map doesnt feel Like its very good either. yeah, well... that's TvP  I don't blame Byun for trying to dive on the warp prism. if he had a few extra marines, maybe he would have got it | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1451 Posts
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darklycid
3547 Posts
On July 23 2025 20:22 SHODAN wrote: yeah, well... that's TvP I don't blame Byun for trying to dive on the warp prism. if he had a few extra marines, maybe he would have got itNah thats more a specific about the current storm builds imo. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26913 Posts
On July 23 2025 20:21 darklycid wrote: Eh the current storm builds are kinda saccing Eco/Upgrades for more Units. At least how Zoun played some of these games, I missed the start of the series mind, but last game I mean he’s cutting forge(s) and secondary splash to go big on gatewayman As a general rule of thumb you probably don’t want to be roaming around out the map versus someone cutting corners to pummel you with a timing. I guess the tricky part in TvP is if you’re too passive Toss can put on the eco afterburners On the flipside Byun is a few extra marines boxed and prism sniped away from winning not just that game, but the series. Fine margins in this game StarCraft eh? | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1922 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26913 Posts
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MJG
United Kingdom1451 Posts
On July 23 2025 20:50 WombaT wrote: Cheeky from Rogue, that set 1 wasn’t remotely close but Rogue did throw out a gamble. Wonder if it’ll be closer with a more normal start If you want to see a cheeky gamble, you should go back and watch Game 1 of ByuN and Zoun lmao. | ||
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