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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 25 2025 13:07 GMT
#721
Now drop the balance discussion, we're cannon rushing the gold.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 13:08:16
July 25 2025 13:08 GMT
#722
Classic has been watching some PartinG games.

ADIOS AMIGO BUILD!
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
July 25 2025 13:08 GMT
#723
see folks THIS is a build
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 13:10:18
July 25 2025 13:09 GMT
#724
I'm no expert but surely he should have cancelled the 3rd cannon at the gold?

E: Okay actually...
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 13:10:30
July 25 2025 13:10 GMT
#725
On July 25 2025 22:09 Elentos wrote:
I'm no expert but surely he should have cancelled the 3rd cannon at the gold?

I'd normally say yes, but if he expands there then it might be useful.

EDIT:

Okay, he expanded there.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
July 25 2025 13:10 GMT
#726
okay I don't know what's going on here from Classic but I like it
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1057 Posts
July 25 2025 13:11 GMT
#727
He's gonna Tempest siege from the gold?
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
July 25 2025 13:13 GMT
#728
omg Rotti with the V word
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 13:15:30
July 25 2025 13:14 GMT
#729
Solar is going to end up in the sad situation of only having Corruptors against a ground-based all-in.

EDIT:

Damn, clutch defence from Solar.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 25 2025 13:16 GMT
#730
Given that big tempest play is back in the PvZ meta I reckon we're just a few patches away from the return of the swarm host.
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4009 Posts
July 25 2025 13:16 GMT
#731
love this game from Solar. Really well handled so far
Drone is a way of living
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1057 Posts
July 25 2025 13:17 GMT
#732
This is already a more entertaining series than Cure vs. Serral lmao.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
July 25 2025 13:17 GMT
#733
really well played from solar
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25342 Posts
July 25 2025 13:17 GMT
#734
On July 25 2025 21:45 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 21:43 Poopi wrote:
On July 25 2025 21:42 MJG wrote:
People often ask Rotti, "Why no Templar?".

Now we must ask Cure, "Why no Ghosts?"

They have been nerfed to oblivion in both match-ups

They're still playable in TvZ, Clem still makes them in a lot of games and they look good. Cure was struggling to handle all the things you have to control and do as a terran without having ghosts in his army. If he adds in ghost he has another unit he also has to micro and control with everything else, and he couldn't keep up with Serral as it was. Single lurkers were butchering his mineral lines and a single lurker almost killed his planetary that game. It was burning and in red health before he finally killed the 1 lurker and started to repair it.

I think this is the correct read.

I think especially in TvZ, where there’s so much action all over the place.

When you see Maru come close in a slugfest, or Clem pull it off, they do things Cure can’t do. They’ll build a few almost impregnable defensive positions, or if they can’t and they bleed damage, they’ll keep replacing SCVs and CCs.

Those games, for want for a better word also tend to be ‘bank’ games. With room for extra production, building those entrenched positions.

That set wasn’t that kind of game. Both players were hurting each other and had enough money to stay maxed, but they kept draining their banks and trading. Not just Cure, I’m sure Serral would have absolutely loved to get corruptors out to deal with that heavy Lib commitment but he couldn’t do it

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
July 25 2025 13:18 GMT
#735
On July 25 2025 22:02 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 21:59 Elentos wrote:
On July 25 2025 21:57 darklycid wrote:
On July 25 2025 21:54 dedede wrote:
Ready for a zvz?

If we get a zvz Finals after zergs we're seething about being unplayable for Like 6 months straight, they lost the right to Talk about Balance for at least some months.

But that sounds exactly like Zerg after every patch since BL/infestor 2.0 got removed. Complaining about being nerfed to the ground but their players are allegedly just so good they win every important tournament anyway.


What do you mean "their players"? It´s mostly just one guy.

one guy that plays a ZvZ against himself?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1057 Posts
July 25 2025 13:18 GMT
#736
I really thought Classic could grab a win with his Gateway all-in.

Solar read that really well.

Great defence.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
TeamMamba
Profile Joined June 2025
63 Posts
July 25 2025 13:24 GMT
#737
lol the usual balance complain every time a terran gets knock out of the tournament.

Where was this kind of energy when Maru from dreamhack? Did the same terran whiners came out and ask for a nerf for terran? No? Thought so. How about when cure 3-0 rogue? Nothing again? Ya

Cure and Maru are both a tier below Serral. Tvz is in a decent spot always. Clem already beat Serral in the last big tournament at SGE.

What the whiners want is nerf Serral and not a nerf on Zerg. You kids already got it when infestor was nerfed which was literally a nerf on serral
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
July 25 2025 13:25 GMT
#738
I just hope that Classic or Solar can make the finals a series, not another 5-0. Rooting for Classic a bit more to have a PvZ but I would be fine with Solar winning too
Sc2 is chill to watch when Maru is out, not as stressful
WriterMaru
TeamMamba
Profile Joined June 2025
63 Posts
July 25 2025 13:25 GMT
#739
On July 25 2025 22:24 TeamMamba wrote:
lol the usual balance complain every time a terran gets knock out of the tournament.

Where was this kind of energy when Maru from dreamhack? Did the same terran whiners came out and ask for a nerf for terran? No? Thought so. How about when cure 3-0 rogue? Nothing again? Serral is literally the only Zerg winning Zvt at this tournament

Cure and Maru are both a tier below Serral. Tvz is in a decent spot always. Clem already beat Serral in the last big tournament at SGE.

What the whiners want is nerf Serral and not a nerf on Zerg. You kids already got it when infestor was nerfed which was literally a nerf on serral

TeamMamba
Profile Joined June 2025
63 Posts
July 25 2025 13:26 GMT
#740
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