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On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here.
Rofl. What sort of argument is that?
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We are going to have another Ro4 full of Terran, arent we?
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On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that?
That hypotheticals are silly.
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On March 21 2024 20:08 tigera6 wrote:
We are going to have another Ro4 full of Terran, arent we?
I have faith one of Stats/Shin can take down Gumiho
Maybe uh particularly Shin
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Rough games for Hero - widow mine change is long overdue
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On March 21 2024 20:08 tigera6 wrote:
We are going to have another Ro4 full of Terran, arent we?
GomTvT <3
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On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly.
Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual
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On March 21 2024 20:49 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly. Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual
So Trap is three time GSL champ? My man, and people say he isn't the GOAT protoss!
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On March 21 2024 20:49 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly. Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual
what are you talking about?
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On March 21 2024 21:07 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 20:49 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly. Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual what are you talking about?
 2019 GSL vs. the World
2018 GSL vs. the World
Both of these were in a time where GSL was actually competitive. Not the empty hull that Maru has been winning the last 3 times
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On March 21 2024 21:11 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 21:07 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:49 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly. Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual what are you talking about? 2019 GSL vs. the World2018 GSL vs. the WorldBoth of these were in a time where GSL was actually competitive. Not the empty hull that Maru has been winning the last 3 times
My man those are invitationals held in korea. With the likes of Has, Khelazur or Cyan as representatives of China and popular votes. That is not a GSL
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On March 21 2024 21:14 Charoisaur wrote:
GSL Solar is back!
I liquibeted herO and Solar to advance.... I dont know wtf he did this time.
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On March 21 2024 21:11 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 21:07 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:49 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly. Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual what are you talking about? 2019 GSL vs. the World2018 GSL vs. the WorldBoth of these were in a time where GSL was actually competitive. Not the empty hull that Maru has been winning the last 3 times
So you think a Super-Tournament like format with 8 players from EU/NA/CN and 8 from KR, not best 16 players in the world is more competitive than the GSL CODE S format with the like of Maru Dark herO Cure Byun Ragnarok Solar Gumiho Classic Bunny Creator...?
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On March 21 2024 21:19 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 21:11 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 21:07 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:49 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly. Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual what are you talking about? 2019 GSL vs. the World2018 GSL vs. the WorldBoth of these were in a time where GSL was actually competitive. Not the empty hull that Maru has been winning the last 3 times So you think a Super-Tournament like format with 8 players from EU/NA/CN and 8 from KR, not best 16 players in the world is more competitive than the GSL CODE S format with the like of Maru Dark herO Cure Byun Ragnarok Solar Gumiho Classic Bunny Creator...?
I think that in general, a tournament is not harder or "more competitive" just because it's longer.
How hard a tournament is defined by the player pool and the money on the line.
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On March 21 2024 21:29 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 21:19 tigera6 wrote:On March 21 2024 21:11 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 21:07 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:49 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly. Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual what are you talking about? 2019 GSL vs. the World2018 GSL vs. the WorldBoth of these were in a time where GSL was actually competitive. Not the empty hull that Maru has been winning the last 3 times So you think a Super-Tournament like format with 8 players from EU/NA/CN and 8 from KR, not best 16 players in the world is more competitive than the GSL CODE S format with the like of Maru Dark herO Cure Byun Ragnarok Solar Gumiho Classic Bunny Creator...? I think that in general, a tournament is not harder or "more competitive" just because it's longer. How hard a tournament is defined by the player pool and the money on the line.
you can think whatever, doesnt change the facts.
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On March 21 2024 21:31 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 21:29 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 21:19 tigera6 wrote:On March 21 2024 21:11 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 21:07 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:49 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly. Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual what are you talking about? 2019 GSL vs. the World2018 GSL vs. the WorldBoth of these were in a time where GSL was actually competitive. Not the empty hull that Maru has been winning the last 3 times So you think a Super-Tournament like format with 8 players from EU/NA/CN and 8 from KR, not best 16 players in the world is more competitive than the GSL CODE S format with the like of Maru Dark herO Cure Byun Ragnarok Solar Gumiho Classic Bunny Creator...? I think that in general, a tournament is not harder or "more competitive" just because it's longer. How hard a tournament is defined by the player pool and the money on the line. you can think whatever, doesnt change the facts.
And what facts might that be?
Anyway, agree to disagree and let's hope herO pulls through
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On March 21 2024 21:39 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 21:31 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 21:29 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 21:19 tigera6 wrote:On March 21 2024 21:11 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 21:07 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:49 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 19:48 Argonauta wrote:
This Ryung vs Solar match(and the last group of GSL as well) exemplifies very well for me how weak is the argument of "if Serral had competed in GSL he would have won several". GSL is a very harsh tournament where upsets do happen frequently, that someone is favourite on paper is never a guarantee here. Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly. Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual what are you talking about? 2019 GSL vs. the World2018 GSL vs. the WorldBoth of these were in a time where GSL was actually competitive. Not the empty hull that Maru has been winning the last 3 times So you think a Super-Tournament like format with 8 players from EU/NA/CN and 8 from KR, not best 16 players in the world is more competitive than the GSL CODE S format with the like of Maru Dark herO Cure Byun Ragnarok Solar Gumiho Classic Bunny Creator...? I think that in general, a tournament is not harder or "more competitive" just because it's longer. How hard a tournament is defined by the player pool and the money on the line. you can think whatever, doesnt change the facts. And what facts might that be? Anyway, agree to disagree and let's hope herO pulls through
That the invitationals held in Korea in 2018 and 2019 that you referred to are not, in any shape and form, a GSL despite sharing the brand name.
But yes, herO is looking strong now
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Solars result Not too unexpected If what herO Said in the crank Interview was true with solar taking a chill time currently.
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On March 21 2024 21:45 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2024 21:39 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 21:31 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 21:29 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 21:19 tigera6 wrote:On March 21 2024 21:11 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 21:07 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:49 Harris1st wrote:On March 21 2024 20:11 Argonauta wrote:On March 21 2024 20:06 Harris1st wrote:
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Rofl. What sort of argument is that? That hypotheticals are silly. Serral has 2 GSL titles. Not hypothetical. Factual what are you talking about? 2019 GSL vs. the World2018 GSL vs. the WorldBoth of these were in a time where GSL was actually competitive. Not the empty hull that Maru has been winning the last 3 times So you think a Super-Tournament like format with 8 players from EU/NA/CN and 8 from KR, not best 16 players in the world is more competitive than the GSL CODE S format with the like of Maru Dark herO Cure Byun Ragnarok Solar Gumiho Classic Bunny Creator...? I think that in general, a tournament is not harder or "more competitive" just because it's longer. How hard a tournament is defined by the player pool and the money on the line. you can think whatever, doesnt change the facts. And what facts might that be? Anyway, agree to disagree and let's hope herO pulls through That the invitationals held in Korea in 2018 and 2019 that you referred to are not, in any shape and form, a GSL despite sharing the brand name. But yes, herO is looking strong now
I can admit that. Though that leaves the question what does count as a "GSL" and how much does it count?
Does the GSL S1 2024 count as much as Code S 2016? 2019? The online Covid GSL?
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