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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26932 Posts
February 11 2024 20:37 GMT
#1681
On February 12 2024 05:33 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 05:29 WombaT wrote:
On February 12 2024 05:27 Argonauta wrote:
On February 12 2024 05:25 argonautdice wrote:
Don't worry guys Serral will be slightly nerfed in the next irl patch by going to the army, but only slightly nerfed since he's in a special esports program.


Is that true? or are you joking?
Because I was tihnking the only reason the US army force may be interested in sponsoring this is because they want to recruit people to control their drones in Syria or smt

Not enough micro in controlling a single drone, until you can have folks controlling whole robotics armies no sense wasting a Serral or a Maru when a MOBA player will do


I mean you are rigth, but I find it so bizarre they are sponsoring sc2 tourneys... I dont know why they do.

I mean, sponsoring SC2 specifically seems odd, I’m guessing they support ESL/IEM tournies in general?

I’d be amazed if the average SC viewer these days wasn’t somewhere in the 30s, or at least close. So hardly prime recruiting material, I assume it’s to tap into other games which skew younger
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
derkopf
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany87 Posts
February 11 2024 20:38 GMT
#1682
it was very enjoyable!
I was a little bit sad that they don’t made a pause after the radhuset game since everybody was exhausted. It would be provide some better games I imagine.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-11 20:40:26
February 11 2024 20:38 GMT
#1683
On February 12 2024 05:34 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 05:30 argonautdice wrote:
On February 12 2024 05:27 Argonauta wrote:
On February 12 2024 05:25 argonautdice wrote:
Don't worry guys Serral will be slightly nerfed in the next irl patch by going to the army, but only slightly nerfed since he's in a special esports program.


Is that true? or are you joking?
Because I was tihnking the only reason the US army force may be interested in sponsoring this is because they want to recruit people to control their drones in Syria or smt

It's Finnish mandatory military service, which is normally a year (where you can't be playing esports), but a special esports athlete program shorten the service to 6 months while allowing them some practice/possible tournament attendance I believe.



I see, that is very nice from the finnish goverment. Surprised the korean one doesnt have anything similar.

I think Korea did have something like that called Air Force ACE which was an esports team that allowed military enlisted Brood War players to practice/play in tournaments.

Edit: main problem is the Korean military service is 18 months long during which you still have to do the standard military training not conducive to being a good esports player, and I don't think they have that anymore at least for SC2.
very illegal and very uncool
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
February 11 2024 20:40 GMT
#1684
On February 12 2024 05:30 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 05:27 Argonauta wrote:
On February 12 2024 05:25 argonautdice wrote:
Don't worry guys Serral will be slightly nerfed in the next irl patch by going to the army, but only slightly nerfed since he's in a special esports program.


Is that true? or are you joking?
Because I was tihnking the only reason the US army force may be interested in sponsoring this is because they want to recruit people to control their drones in Syria or smt

It's Finnish mandatory military service, which is normally a year (where you can't be playing esports), but a special esports athlete program shorten the service to 6 months while allowing them some practice/possible tournament attendance I believe.


Lauri Markkanen (basketball player) did his service last summer. Shouldn't be too big of a deal for Serral.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
FFXthebest
Profile Joined February 2024
75 Posts
February 11 2024 20:46 GMT
#1685
Goat Serral. Outclass Maru for the past 5 years

I came to read the delicious salty terran whine and tears

It did not disappoint

Starcloud
Profile Joined September 2018
138 Posts
February 11 2024 20:48 GMT
#1686
GG for the GOAT ! His streak and almost whole 2023 is just insane. These last tournaments he has been unstoppable. Maru played well this time, but even he couldnt handle Night-Kings dominance. 20-1 says it all.
FFXthebest
Profile Joined February 2024
75 Posts
February 11 2024 20:49 GMT
#1687
On February 12 2024 05:17 Xain0n wrote:
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On February 12 2024 05:12 Nakajin wrote:
Great Katowice once again, but we need to start a go-fund-me to pay Serral to stay home next time. Doesn't seems like anyone else has a chance when he's there.


He's going to the army next April


Perfect. Now he can use post military as an excuse like the Koreans
ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
February 11 2024 20:52 GMT
#1688
Serral is 14-4 in matches against Maru all time, and 39-19 in maps. Offline he's 4-1 in matches and 11-5 in maps. I think that's pretty conclusive.
CJ herO #1 fan.
lokol4890
Profile Joined May 2023
114 Posts
February 11 2024 20:53 GMT
#1689
Man I've been following this game for over a decade and I've never seen a more combative group than the Serral fans. Usually when your favorite player wins you feel good but you can also empathize with the fans of the loser and give some grace. Not serral fans though, y'all keep twisting the knife further. It's like it's not enough that your favorite player wins, you go out of your way to try and make people feel worse. Wonder why that is
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
February 11 2024 20:54 GMT
#1690
Joona, Joona. Only The GOAT can make the reality check when the question for it is asked. IRL.
Part-time Serralogist
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1293 Posts
February 11 2024 20:56 GMT
#1691
On February 12 2024 05:53 lokol4890 wrote:
Man I've been following this game for over a decade and I've never seen a more combative group than the Serral fans. Usually when your favorite player wins you feel good but you can also empathize with the fans of the loser and give some grace. Not serral fans though, y'all keep twisting the knife further. It's like it's not enough that your favorite player wins, you go out of your way to try and make people feel worse. Wonder why that is


If you look through this thread, but especially the last ~20 pages, you get a collection of anti-Serral (or anti-Zerg) posts. It's the maps, the balance, the schedule. What did someone say? "Maru played like a god but not even a god can win TvZ"
On the other hand you have people celebrating Serral, pointing out his incredible score this tournament and in general. How is that "twisting the knife further"?
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3511 Posts
February 11 2024 20:58 GMT
#1692
On February 12 2024 05:53 lokol4890 wrote:
Man I've been following this game for over a decade and I've never seen a more combative group than the Serral fans. Usually when your favorite player wins you feel good but you can also empathize with the fans of the loser and give some grace. Not serral fans though, y'all keep twisting the knife further. It's like it's not enough that your favorite player wins, you go out of your way to try and make people feel worse. Wonder why that is

The things people, myself included, were responding to were deleted because there was some legit unhinged balance whine.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
FFXthebest
Profile Joined February 2024
75 Posts
February 11 2024 21:01 GMT
#1693
On February 12 2024 05:56 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 05:53 lokol4890 wrote:
Man I've been following this game for over a decade and I've never seen a more combative group than the Serral fans. Usually when your favorite player wins you feel good but you can also empathize with the fans of the loser and give some grace. Not serral fans though, y'all keep twisting the knife further. It's like it's not enough that your favorite player wins, you go out of your way to try and make people feel worse. Wonder why that is


If you look through this thread, but especially the last ~20 pages, you get a collection of anti-Serral (or anti-Zerg) posts. It's the maps, the balance, the schedule. What did someone say? "Maru played like a god but not even a god can win TvZ"
On the other hand you have people celebrating Serral, pointing out his incredible score this tournament and in general. How is that "twisting the knife further"?


Been like that with the Maru / terran fanboys

When Zerg lose, it’s cause terran is superior player. No one complained about fungel or Zergs when terrans were smashing solar reynor and dark around in this tournament.

But once Serral wins, all a sudden fungel is op, Zerg everything is Op

The coping is real with terrans.

If anything is op, it’s the ghost. That unit is a disgrace
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
February 11 2024 21:02 GMT
#1694
Luckily that unhinged balance whine was not the factor in this win.
Part-time Serralogist
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
February 11 2024 21:02 GMT
#1695
On February 12 2024 05:46 FFXthebest wrote:
Goat Serral. Outclass Maru for the past 5 years

I came to read the delicious salty terran whine and tears

It did not disappoint




didint they nerf the raven because Maru destroyed serral with them in 2018?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
February 11 2024 21:04 GMT
#1696
If Serral only won because Zerg is OP, then wouldn't Dark and Reynor both be dominating Maru? But Maru beat Dark AND Reynor in this tournament. Serral is just built different.
CJ herO #1 fan.
FFXthebest
Profile Joined February 2024
75 Posts
February 11 2024 21:06 GMT
#1697
On February 12 2024 06:02 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 05:46 FFXthebest wrote:
Goat Serral. Outclass Maru for the past 5 years

I came to read the delicious salty terran whine and tears

It did not disappoint




didint they nerf the raven because Maru destroyed serral with them in 2018?


I believe that’s 2017 the raven nerf? Highlight of Maru’s career

Since then, blizzard tried to buff terrans multiple times (faster Stim etc) and multiple nerfs against Zergs and yet Serral still mop the floor with Maru
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 11 2024 21:07 GMT
#1698
On February 12 2024 06:04 ZAWGURN wrote:
If Serral only won because Zerg is OP, then wouldn't Dark and Reynor both be dominating Maru? But Maru beat Dark AND Reynor in this tournament. Serral is just built different.

You see, Dark/Reynor are just so much less skilled that in a fair world they would be ro24 quality players. Serral is slightly better so in a fair world he'd be top 12.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3511 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-11 21:10:11
February 11 2024 21:08 GMT
#1699
On February 12 2024 06:04 ZAWGURN wrote:
If Serral only won because Zerg is OP, then wouldn't Dark and Reynor both be dominating Maru? But Maru beat Dark AND Reynor in this tournament. Serral is just built different.

There's no point in even engaging. 'The break was too short', 'the veto system was bad'. People will find any reason to complain. The reality is, in the interview before the match Maru said he was afraid of Serral. And for good reason. Similarly, Maru lost a series to Cyan, and was pushed to the brink by ByuN. Serral went 20-1.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
February 11 2024 21:08 GMT
#1700
On February 12 2024 06:07 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2024 06:04 ZAWGURN wrote:
If Serral only won because Zerg is OP, then wouldn't Dark and Reynor both be dominating Maru? But Maru beat Dark AND Reynor in this tournament. Serral is just built different.

You see, Dark/Reynor are just so much less skilled that in a fair world they would be ro24 quality players. Serral is slightly better so in a fair world he'd be top 12.


I can’t tell if this is sarcasm
CJ herO #1 fan.
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