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[IEM] Katowice 2023 - RO24 Group Stage - Day 2 - Page 28

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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9267 Posts
February 10 2023 21:43 GMT
#541
Serral needs to learn Protoss and play it instead of ZvZs
You're now breathing manually
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
February 10 2023 21:43 GMT
#542
On February 11 2023 06:11 Gescom wrote:
If Serral wins this 2-0, I'd still peg him as my favourite to win the tourney. Major gut-check upcoming. I could see him getting bopped, too. Such a toss-up.

Hmmmmmmm.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1215 Posts
February 10 2023 21:43 GMT
#543
Great games. Well played by both Serral and herO.
Mutation complete.
mpmaley86
Profile Joined May 2019
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 21:44:30
February 10 2023 21:44 GMT
#544
Solar losses & Serral wins or Hero & Serral win for Serral to advance?
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
February 10 2023 21:44 GMT
#545
Well that was a stomp. Serral reminding the folks over at the NBA that he is the original Finnisher
Mine gas, build tanks.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 10 2023 21:44 GMT
#546
I'll just say the biggest conspiracy/lie in sc2 is making everyone believe Protoss is the a+click race, when zerg is.

Truly outstanding display of skill by hero. Shame about the bad decision with the adepts in game 1 and the bad engage in game 2.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 10 2023 21:44 GMT
#547
On February 11 2023 06:43 QOGQOG wrote:
I tricked myself into thinking this tournament might be fun despite the patch, but that series really proved me wrong.

TvT has been fun at least.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 21:45:49
February 10 2023 21:45 GMT
#548
reminder:

hero 2-0 DRG
hero 2-0 solar
hero 2-1 elazer
hero 0-2 serral

serral's decision making and scouting won him both those games. y'all need to relax, it's been barely one tournament.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
February 10 2023 21:45 GMT
#549
On February 11 2023 06:44 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 06:43 QOGQOG wrote:
I tricked myself into thinking this tournament might be fun despite the patch, but that series really proved me wrong.

TvT has been fun at least.

That's fair. Maybe if there's another good series of it I'll catch that. Just not really up for having my hopes of a non Z champ crushed by one spell and a baneling attack move.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3450 Posts
February 10 2023 21:46 GMT
#550
I feel like herO didnt show his strongest build in that game, the 3 Oracle into Robo is just a way preditcable style unless you hit Zerg hard and quick as you can, like Trap use to do when he won all those Premiere tournament in 2020.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16022 Posts
February 10 2023 21:46 GMT
#551
Still none of the top Zergs lost a series to a non-Zerg.
Last Katowice it stayed like this the entire tournament, unlikely it happens this tournament
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 21:47:07
February 10 2023 21:46 GMT
#552
On February 11 2023 06:45 BluemoonSC wrote:
reminder:

hero 2-0 DRG
hero 2-0 solar
hero 2-1 elazer
hero 0-2 serral

serral's decision making and scouting won him both those games. y'all need to relax, it's been barely one tournament.

Wow, one whole Protoss won some games against Zerg.
Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
221 Posts
February 10 2023 21:47 GMT
#553
On February 11 2023 06:44 [Phantom] wrote:
I'll just say the biggest conspiracy/lie in sc2 is making everyone believe Protoss is the a+click race, when zerg is.

Truly outstanding display of skill by hero. Shame about the bad decision with the adepts in game 1 and the bad engage in game 2.


Sc2 must be quite the anti-climatic chore for you.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
February 10 2023 21:47 GMT
#554
On February 11 2023 06:44 [Phantom] wrote:
I'll just say the biggest conspiracy/lie in sc2 is making everyone believe Protoss is the a+click race, when zerg is.

Truly outstanding display of skill by hero. Shame about the bad decision with the adepts in game 1 and the bad engage in game 2.


Literally everyone thinks of Zerg has the a-move race what are you talking about? Zerg macro is harder and you have to play reactively which puts you at a disadvantage in RTS. The game is balanced, relax
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
February 10 2023 21:47 GMT
#555
On February 11 2023 06:44 mpmaley86 wrote:
Solar losses & Serral wins or Hero & Serral win for Serral to advance?

Serral 2-0 auto qualifies
Serral 2-1 qualifies unless Solar 2-0
DRG and Elazer winning by any amount makes DRG advance unless its 2-1 drg and 2-0 elazer in which case elazer qualifies
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 10 2023 21:48 GMT
#556
On February 11 2023 06:45 BluemoonSC wrote:
reminder:

hero 2-0 DRG
hero 2-0 solar
hero 2-1 elazer
hero 0-2 serral

serral's decision making and scouting won him both those games. y'all need to relax, it's been barely one tournament.

I do think Serral has better ZvP than those three players, but herO running out of builds is a real concern, and herO will almost certainly have to beat Dark and/or Reynor to win the tournament.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18186 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 21:50:29
February 10 2023 21:48 GMT
#557
On February 11 2023 06:43 royalroadweed wrote:
I wonder what herO practice games look like if he thinks colossus play is good vs roach viper.

He was a few seconds too late. If that had hit a few seconds earlier, the abducts wouldn't be ready and he'd probably win the battle. As is, he lost one Colossus immediately and had to yoink the other back with his warp prism. He was also fighting uphill into a choke with Serral's roaches having a better arch. Slightly better positioning and hitting a few seconds earlier would have made that the killing blow he intended...

Oh, and his Oracles got literally nothing done.
mpmaley86
Profile Joined May 2019
115 Posts
February 10 2023 21:49 GMT
#558
On February 11 2023 06:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 06:44 mpmaley86 wrote:
Solar losses & Serral wins or Hero & Serral win for Serral to advance?

Serral 2-0 auto qualifies
Serral 2-1 qualifies unless Solar 2-0
DRG and Elazer winning by any amount makes DRG advance unless its 2-1 drg and 2-0 elazer in which case elazer qualifies


Thanks for the thoughts on map score.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3450 Posts
February 10 2023 21:50 GMT
#559
On February 11 2023 06:48 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 06:43 royalroadweed wrote:
I wonder what herO practice games look like if he thinks colossus play is good vs roach viper.

He was a few seconds too late. If that had hit a few seconds earlier, the abducts wouldn't be ready and he'd probably win the battle. As is, he lost one Colossus immediately and had to yoink the other back with his warp prism. He was also fighting uphill into a choke with Serral's roaches having a better arch. Slightly better positioning and hitting a few seconds earlier would have made that the killing blow he intended...

I think Serral would still be good even at 20sec delay on Viper Abduct, his preparation was perfect. I wonder if herO should just make another Prism and 4-5 Disruptor instead of the more expensive/time consuming Colossi.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 21:52:35
February 10 2023 21:50 GMT
#560
On February 11 2023 06:46 Charoisaur wrote:
Still none of the top Zergs lost a series to a non-Zerg.
Last Katowice it stayed like this the entire tournament, unlikely it happens this tournament

The Group D Terrans need to be unleashed, because the Group A Terrans are underperforming right now.
Creator-Reynor tomorrow will be interesting tomorrow morning.

But Special beating Solar absolutely counts. Solar just won the Super Tournament! Come on! :D
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
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