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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
February 10 2023 19:33 GMT
#381
On February 11 2023 04:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
How is it that both Maru and Hero so frequently leave their walls open to Zerglings? Is this the mentality of champions?


Their brains are so beyond mortal comprehension I can't begin to answer this.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 10 2023 19:34 GMT
#382
On February 11 2023 04:32 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 04:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
How is it that both Maru and Hero so frequently leave their walls open to Zerglings? Is this the mentality of champions?

Yes.


The results speak for themselves. Looking forward to Dark revolutionising ZvZ .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13969 Posts
February 10 2023 19:34 GMT
#383
Fuuuuck drg losing to special fucks things up, group c is wide open
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9139 Posts
February 10 2023 19:34 GMT
#384
What is this 4th base location from herO
You're now breathing manually
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2616 Posts
February 10 2023 19:35 GMT
#385
See hero just let more lings in to the natural, this is how you win vs Z
Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
February 10 2023 19:35 GMT
#386
Serral 1-2 [image loading]

User was warned for this post
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
February 10 2023 19:35 GMT
#387
On February 11 2023 04:34 Cricketer12 wrote:
Fuuuuck drg losing to special fucks things up, group c is wide open


2nd - 4th place are all within 2 maps of each other.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
February 10 2023 19:36 GMT
#388
On February 11 2023 04:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
How is it that both Maru and Hero so frequently leave their walls open to Zerglings? Is this the mentality of champions?

lose all your probes, win the game.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
February 10 2023 19:36 GMT
#389
it is so sweet watching herO smashing zergs after years and years of zergs mangling every toss in the scene.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
February 10 2023 19:37 GMT
#390
lazerS > Elazer
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 10 2023 19:37 GMT
#391
I'm happy to see Protoss win, but I hope Colossus doesn't become the standard in the matchup again, it's really not a fun unit.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
February 10 2023 19:37 GMT
#392
Welp. now NO ONE is making it out of the group stages undefeated.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 10 2023 19:37 GMT
#393
On February 11 2023 04:36 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 04:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
How is it that both Maru and Hero so frequently leave their walls open to Zerglings? Is this the mentality of champions?

lose all your probes, win the game.


Actually, when you say it like that it also sounds like Zest.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
February 10 2023 19:38 GMT
#394
On February 11 2023 04:37 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm happy to see Protoss win, but I hope Colossus doesn't become the standard in the matchup again, it's really not a fun unit.


It might have to, if heavy Hydralisk becomes meta, I don't see what other option Protoss has. Hydras are so fast and deal so much damage they can dodge storms, burst Archons, and dodge Novas. Collosus with their range might be the best answer for fighting them on the ground.

And then Hydras become Lurkers and it gets worse.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55468 Posts
February 10 2023 19:38 GMT
#395
On February 11 2023 04:37 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 04:36 BluemoonSC wrote:
On February 11 2023 04:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
How is it that both Maru and Hero so frequently leave their walls open to Zerglings? Is this the mentality of champions?

lose all your probes, win the game.


Actually, when you say it like that it also sounds like Zest.

Well he's the most successful Protoss player ever for a reason
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
February 10 2023 19:39 GMT
#396
On February 11 2023 04:37 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm happy to see Protoss win, but I hope Colossus doesn't become the standard in the matchup again, it's really not a fun unit.



I mean the made hydras faster and more maneuverable so storm and balls are less efficient now.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2616 Posts
February 10 2023 19:40 GMT
#397
On February 11 2023 04:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 04:37 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm happy to see Protoss win, but I hope Colossus doesn't become the standard in the matchup again, it's really not a fun unit.


It might have to, if heavy Hydralisk becomes meta, I don't see what other option Protoss has. Hydras are so fast and deal so much damage they can dodge storms, burst Archons, and dodge Novas. Collosus with their range might be the best answer for fighting them on the ground.

And then Hydras become Lurkers and it gets worse.

If it weren't for herO Protoss would be nonexistent at the top. OTOH they dominate ladder, because they have so many easy to use, hard to counter units at any level below the top pros.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7968 Posts
February 10 2023 19:41 GMT
#398
serral better 2:0 hero if he wants to advance
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
301 Posts
February 10 2023 19:41 GMT
#399
On February 11 2023 04:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 04:37 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm happy to see Protoss win, but I hope Colossus doesn't become the standard in the matchup again, it's really not a fun unit.


It might have to, if heavy Hydralisk becomes meta, I don't see what other option Protoss has. Hydras are so fast and deal so much damage they can dodge storms, burst Archons, and dodge Novas. Collosus with their range might be the best answer for fighting them on the ground.

And then Hydras become Lurkers and it gets worse.


I think buffing storm is the key! Give it one extra click of duration -- keeps dps same increases damage to 90.

I don't think this will hurt pvt too much as dodging storms means the extra duration essentially doesn't matter.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33230 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 19:42:19
February 10 2023 19:41 GMT
#400
On February 11 2023 04:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
Welp. now NO ONE is making it out of the group stages undefeated.


it's only happened twice in the modern era (Dark 2021, Serral 2022)

the other two happened when MMA and AcE went to beat up on foreigners in the early days
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