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On February 11 2023 03:30 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Looks like all the Ro36 players will be eliminated during the groups this year as well. Has anyone ever gotten to the playoffs from the Ro36?
If I remember correct.
Maru went through the open bracket in 2018 and made the ro4. Almost won vs the champion.
Stats went through the ro64 in 2017 and barely lost the final 3-4 to TY.
soO went through the open bracket/ro76 in 2019 and won the whole thing.
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Twitch chat or Reddit legit a more enjoyable experience than Plat League balance whine in this thread.
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Gotta get Elazer on main stream as many times as possible before he's out I guess
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On February 11 2023 03:37 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2023 03:30 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Looks like all the Ro36 players will be eliminated during the groups this year as well. Has anyone ever gotten to the playoffs from the Ro36? If I remember correct. Maru went through the open bracket in 2018 and made the ro4. Almost won vs the champion. Stats went through the ro64 in 2017 and barely lost the final 3-4 to TY. soO went through the open bracket in 2019 and won the whole thing.
Thanks
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On February 11 2023 03:37 Gescom wrote:
Twitch chat or Reddit legit a more enjoyable experience than Plat League balance whine in this thread.
Pretty sure twitch chat has a higher average skill level than the balance whining going on in this thread.
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SoCal8910 Posts
On February 11 2023 03:35 [Phantom] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2023 03:33 Gescom wrote:
People talking about Brood Lords buffs as though Broodlings didn't lose duration. The changes were all designed to make for a major enjoyable playing and viewing experience. Units are more microable, and there is more skill potential. Don't look at things with such a basic viewpoint. Yeah, they did it so there is more enjobable playing (for zerg) and viewing, withouth any thought of the implications, that's the whole issue most people ahd with the patch. I'll due on the hill that Tempest need a buff. Show nested quote +On February 11 2023 03:34 BluemoonSC wrote:On February 11 2023 03:22 [Phantom] wrote:
Tempest are so much worse vs vikings now. Tempest need a desperrate buff, idk why they werent buffed.
But also idk why he didn't research the building damage, that's the whole point do you ever do anything other than complain about protoss balance? it was a cheese build, i don't think you can interpret anything about the balance of tempests from this match. if anything, how maru reacted should tell you WHY this build isn't played outside of a random cheese. Sometimes I complain about Terran balance, but here it seems they eneded up with the best result of still being decent vs Zerg and buffed vs Protoss. And yeah, I agree Classic didn't lose because of balance, he justplayed terrible, but that doesn't mean Tempest don't need a buff when the unit they are supposed to counter got better, BC are still decent agaisnt them, and their counters (vikings) got buffed.
if only protoss had other units that dealt bonus armor damage.
but seriously, how do you enjoy the game when this is the only thing you do in every thread I see you post in?
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I think this lowground wall in TvZ thing is just a terrible idea. Too exposed, if you end up with Stim exposed in the wall, it's just a very bad situation vs any aggression.
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On February 11 2023 03:37 Elentos wrote:
Gotta get Elazer on main stream as many times as possible before he's out I guess
I think it has more to do with trying to give Protoss viewers a W after all of the previous L's they've taken on the big stage from the last couple groups.
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Solar going with a big semi-suicidal gambit against Serral :D
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Special's macro is atrocious
also why is he playing hide and seek with his starport on the wrong side of the map instead of just flying it home??
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Mexico2170 Posts
On February 11 2023 03:42 BluemoonSC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2023 03:35 [Phantom] wrote:On February 11 2023 03:33 Gescom wrote:
People talking about Brood Lords buffs as though Broodlings didn't lose duration. The changes were all designed to make for a major enjoyable playing and viewing experience. Units are more microable, and there is more skill potential. Don't look at things with such a basic viewpoint. Yeah, they did it so there is more enjobable playing (for zerg) and viewing, withouth any thought of the implications, that's the whole issue most people ahd with the patch. I'll due on the hill that Tempest need a buff. On February 11 2023 03:34 BluemoonSC wrote:On February 11 2023 03:22 [Phantom] wrote:
Tempest are so much worse vs vikings now. Tempest need a desperrate buff, idk why they werent buffed.
But also idk why he didn't research the building damage, that's the whole point do you ever do anything other than complain about protoss balance? it was a cheese build, i don't think you can interpret anything about the balance of tempests from this match. if anything, how maru reacted should tell you WHY this build isn't played outside of a random cheese. Sometimes I complain about Terran balance, but here it seems they eneded up with the best result of still being decent vs Zerg and buffed vs Protoss. And yeah, I agree Classic didn't lose because of balance, he justplayed terrible, but that doesn't mean Tempest don't need a buff when the unit they are supposed to counter got better, BC are still decent agaisnt them, and their counters (vikings) got buffed. if only protoss had other units that dealt bonus armor damage. but seriously, how do you enjoy the game when this is the only thing you do in every thread I see you post in?
I'll admit I do have those viewpoints but might exagarate them to create discussion between matches  (They could use the same buff hydras got to aquire targets faster though, but yeah unrelated to that game classic lost)
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On February 11 2023 03:47 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Special's macro is atrocious
And it's usually one of the strongest aspects of his play 
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Classic had a poor day today
Gotta cheer for my toss boys creator and hero.
Doubt anyone wants to see the same tvz games over the weekend (beside gumiho since he is unique)
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SoCal8910 Posts
On February 11 2023 03:48 [Phantom] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2023 03:42 BluemoonSC wrote:On February 11 2023 03:35 [Phantom] wrote:On February 11 2023 03:33 Gescom wrote:
People talking about Brood Lords buffs as though Broodlings didn't lose duration. The changes were all designed to make for a major enjoyable playing and viewing experience. Units are more microable, and there is more skill potential. Don't look at things with such a basic viewpoint. Yeah, they did it so there is more enjobable playing (for zerg) and viewing, withouth any thought of the implications, that's the whole issue most people ahd with the patch. I'll due on the hill that Tempest need a buff. On February 11 2023 03:34 BluemoonSC wrote:On February 11 2023 03:22 [Phantom] wrote:
Tempest are so much worse vs vikings now. Tempest need a desperrate buff, idk why they werent buffed.
But also idk why he didn't research the building damage, that's the whole point do you ever do anything other than complain about protoss balance? it was a cheese build, i don't think you can interpret anything about the balance of tempests from this match. if anything, how maru reacted should tell you WHY this build isn't played outside of a random cheese. Sometimes I complain about Terran balance, but here it seems they eneded up with the best result of still being decent vs Zerg and buffed vs Protoss. And yeah, I agree Classic didn't lose because of balance, he justplayed terrible, but that doesn't mean Tempest don't need a buff when the unit they are supposed to counter got better, BC are still decent agaisnt them, and their counters (vikings) got buffed. if only protoss had other units that dealt bonus armor damage. but seriously, how do you enjoy the game when this is the only thing you do in every thread I see you post in? I'll admit I do have those viewpoints but might exagarate them to create discussion between matches (They could use the same buff hydras got to aquire targets faster though, but yeah unrelated to that game classic lost)
you actually can't help yourself, can you?
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On February 11 2023 03:48 [Phantom] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2023 03:42 BluemoonSC wrote:On February 11 2023 03:35 [Phantom] wrote:On February 11 2023 03:33 Gescom wrote:
People talking about Brood Lords buffs as though Broodlings didn't lose duration. The changes were all designed to make for a major enjoyable playing and viewing experience. Units are more microable, and there is more skill potential. Don't look at things with such a basic viewpoint. Yeah, they did it so there is more enjobable playing (for zerg) and viewing, withouth any thought of the implications, that's the whole issue most people ahd with the patch. I'll due on the hill that Tempest need a buff. On February 11 2023 03:34 BluemoonSC wrote:On February 11 2023 03:22 [Phantom] wrote:
Tempest are so much worse vs vikings now. Tempest need a desperrate buff, idk why they werent buffed.
But also idk why he didn't research the building damage, that's the whole point do you ever do anything other than complain about protoss balance? it was a cheese build, i don't think you can interpret anything about the balance of tempests from this match. if anything, how maru reacted should tell you WHY this build isn't played outside of a random cheese. Sometimes I complain about Terran balance, but here it seems they eneded up with the best result of still being decent vs Zerg and buffed vs Protoss. And yeah, I agree Classic didn't lose because of balance, he justplayed terrible, but that doesn't mean Tempest don't need a buff when the unit they are supposed to counter got better, BC are still decent agaisnt them, and their counters (vikings) got buffed. if only protoss had other units that dealt bonus armor damage. but seriously, how do you enjoy the game when this is the only thing you do in every thread I see you post in? I'll admit I do have those viewpoints but might exagarate them to create discussion between matches (They could use the same buff hydras got to aquire targets faster though, but yeah unrelated to that game classic lost)
I'm telling you that the reason they can't do that with Tempests is because the first thing Protoss will do with that buff is to use them in proxy all ins again. At least with Broodlords and Vikings buffing them that way doesn't lead to stupid builds like that becoming a thing.
If they're going to buff Tempests it has to be in some other way that doesn't affect their ability to be exploitive in the early game. Making them more microable like you're suggesting is just going to lead to toxic builds becoming common again and that's going to lead to them being nerfed again.
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Let's see how Serral's next matches will turn out. It's a delicate number of ZvZs.
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Dunno why commentator was confused. You dont siege tanks vs broodlords.
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Nope. herO v Serral is the last match scheduled for today.
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Serral not inspiring so far.
Special... not handling that perfectly.
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