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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 04 2022 18:12 GMT
#401
On September 05 2022 03:11 SHODAN wrote:
27 mineral income vs 2700


lmao. Hadn't noticed.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 04 2022 18:12 GMT
#402
Reminds me of that one game on Zerganattha.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
September 04 2022 18:13 GMT
#403
This map is horrible, poor Maru, hopefully he can win another map
WriterMaru
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
September 04 2022 18:13 GMT
#404
Serra toying with Maru that game was a treat to watch
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-04 18:14:41
September 04 2022 18:14 GMT
#405
maru still has a chance now that the zerg favored maps are used up. if cosmic / waterfall were still to be played yea gg
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
September 04 2022 18:14 GMT
#406
On September 05 2022 03:11 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:09 atrox_ wrote:
On September 05 2022 03:08 JJH777 wrote:
What could any Terran ever do better in a situation like this? Seems completely hopeless.


3 medivacs full of units just afk while the terran is at his strongest point in the mid game just feels like throwing


That put him behind but wasn't relevant to these last few fights. Maru was still maxed before Serral started trading.

It still lead to Serral having more money and Maru having less money than if Maru had traded those units somewhat efficiently
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
youaremysin
Profile Joined August 2015
119 Posts
September 04 2022 18:14 GMT
#407
Serral never felt threatened, the triple drop locked got him in complete control
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-04 18:16:56
September 04 2022 18:15 GMT
#408
On September 05 2022 03:09 atrox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:08 JJH777 wrote:
What could any Terran ever do better in a situation like this? Seems completely hopeless.


3 medivacs full of units just afk while the terran is at his strongest point in the mid game just feels like throwing


You're not understanding that Maru was keeping them there, to keep Serral's units on his side of the map.

As Terran you cover your expanding by keeping your opponent defending, and Serral had all of his units at home, allowing Maru to take his fourth.

Serral had to KEEP his units at home, as long as Maru's medivacs were there.

You might not understand this, but Maru gave up on those units on purpose. They accomplished what they were supposed to, even if they didn't kill anything. Ideally you'd want to cause damage with those drops too, but their primary purpose was to cover for taking your fourth.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
September 04 2022 18:15 GMT
#409
On September 05 2022 03:14 SHODAN wrote:
maru still has a chance now that the zerg favored maps are used up. if cosmic / waterfall were still to be played yea gg

Data C doesn’t seem much better?
WriterMaru
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
September 04 2022 18:16 GMT
#410
On September 05 2022 03:11 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:09 atrox_ wrote:
On September 05 2022 03:08 JJH777 wrote:
What could any Terran ever do better in a situation like this? Seems completely hopeless.


3 medivacs full of units just afk while the terran is at his strongest point in the mid game just feels like throwing


That put him behind but wasn't relevant to these last few fights. Maru was still maxed before Serral started trading.


definitely was relevant - serral so safe on the map with all that supply just there which just spiraled into him having infinite money and having taken no damage
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
September 04 2022 18:16 GMT
#411
On September 05 2022 03:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:09 atrox_ wrote:
On September 05 2022 03:08 JJH777 wrote:
What could any Terran ever do better in a situation like this? Seems completely hopeless.


3 medivacs full of units just afk while the terran is at his strongest point in the mid game just feels like throwing


You're not understanding that Maru was keeping them there, to keep Serral's units on his side of the map.

As Terran you cover your expanding by keeping your opponent defending, and Serral had all of his units at home, allowing Maru to take his fourth.

Serral had to KEEP his units at home, as long as Maru's medivacs were there.

You might not understand this, but Maru gave up on those units on purpose. They accomplished what they were supposed to, even if they didn't kill anything.


that seems like a decent point yeah but that much money + supply with 0 damage even if it was on purpose is just game losing
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1107 Posts
September 04 2022 18:17 GMT
#412
On September 05 2022 03:15 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:14 SHODAN wrote:
maru still has a chance now that the zerg favored maps are used up. if cosmic / waterfall were still to be played yea gg

Data C doesn’t seem much better?


data c is terran favored
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
September 04 2022 18:18 GMT
#413
On September 05 2022 03:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:09 atrox_ wrote:
On September 05 2022 03:08 JJH777 wrote:
What could any Terran ever do better in a situation like this? Seems completely hopeless.


3 medivacs full of units just afk while the terran is at his strongest point in the mid game just feels like throwing


You're not understanding that Maru was keeping them there, to keep Serral's units on his side of the map.

As Terran you cover your expanding by keeping your opponent defending, and Serral had all of his units at home, allowing Maru to take his fourth.

Serral had to KEEP his units at home, as long as Maru's medivacs were there.

You might not understand this, but Maru gave up on those units on purpose. They accomplished what they were supposed to, even if they didn't kill anything. Ideally you'd want to cause damage with those drops too, but their primary purpose was to cover for taking your fourth.

Nah that was the best he could do out of that situation but in no world is throwing 3 medivacs full of units away worth it just for keeping your opponent on his side for a short while
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
569 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-04 18:19:03
September 04 2022 18:18 GMT
#414
On September 05 2022 03:15 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:14 SHODAN wrote:
maru still has a chance now that the zerg favored maps are used up. if cosmic / waterfall were still to be played yea gg

Data C doesn’t seem much better?

Data-C is Terran favored: (Wiki)Data-C LE

Waterfall is the most imbalanced map in the pool at 39.5% TvZ as of this writing.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
September 04 2022 18:19 GMT
#415
On September 05 2022 03:16 atrox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 05 2022 03:09 atrox_ wrote:
On September 05 2022 03:08 JJH777 wrote:
What could any Terran ever do better in a situation like this? Seems completely hopeless.


3 medivacs full of units just afk while the terran is at his strongest point in the mid game just feels like throwing


You're not understanding that Maru was keeping them there, to keep Serral's units on his side of the map.

As Terran you cover your expanding by keeping your opponent defending, and Serral had all of his units at home, allowing Maru to take his fourth.

Serral had to KEEP his units at home, as long as Maru's medivacs were there.

You might not understand this, but Maru gave up on those units on purpose. They accomplished what they were supposed to, even if they didn't kill anything.


that seems like a decent point yeah but that much money + supply with 0 damage even if it was on purpose is just game losing


No it isn't.

Maru would've lost those units anyway, even if he had dropped with them and then that would have given Serral back total map control because there was nothing keeping him home.

Unless Maru was going all in at that point, which he wasn't, the units in the dropships were there only to keep Serral at home so he could expand. The fact they didn't do damage isn't important.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-04 18:20:54
September 04 2022 18:19 GMT
#416
On September 05 2022 03:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:09 atrox_ wrote:
On September 05 2022 03:08 JJH777 wrote:
What could any Terran ever do better in a situation like this? Seems completely hopeless.


3 medivacs full of units just afk while the terran is at his strongest point in the mid game just feels like throwing


You're not understanding that Maru was keeping them there, to keep Serral's units on his side of the map.

As Terran you cover your expanding by keeping your opponent defending, and Serral had all of his units at home, allowing Maru to take his fourth.

Serral had to KEEP his units at home, as long as Maru's medivacs were there.

You might not understand this, but Maru gave up on those units on purpose. They accomplished what they were supposed to, even if they didn't kill anything. Ideally you'd want to cause damage with those drops too, but their primary purpose was to cover for taking your fourth.

yeah Maru didn't throw that game, it was a bad map for camping & late game so he tried to focus on mid-game aggression to keep Serral on his side of the map. Serral just did an exceptional job defending and by the time Maru tried to do late-game it was too late.

maybe he could have transitioned faster once he wasn't doing damage with the drops but it was a very delicate situation
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
September 04 2022 18:21 GMT
#417
On September 05 2022 03:18 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 05 2022 03:09 atrox_ wrote:
On September 05 2022 03:08 JJH777 wrote:
What could any Terran ever do better in a situation like this? Seems completely hopeless.


3 medivacs full of units just afk while the terran is at his strongest point in the mid game just feels like throwing


You're not understanding that Maru was keeping them there, to keep Serral's units on his side of the map.

As Terran you cover your expanding by keeping your opponent defending, and Serral had all of his units at home, allowing Maru to take his fourth.

Serral had to KEEP his units at home, as long as Maru's medivacs were there.

You might not understand this, but Maru gave up on those units on purpose. They accomplished what they were supposed to, even if they didn't kill anything. Ideally you'd want to cause damage with those drops too, but their primary purpose was to cover for taking your fourth.

Nah that was the best he could do out of that situation but in no world is throwing 3 medivacs full of units away worth it just for keeping your opponent on his side for a short while


He would have lost them anyway. The minute he saw the defenses at the third and main, he stopped controlling them because it wasn't worth microing them anymore.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
September 04 2022 18:21 GMT
#418
Hope to see Maru set up a tent and have some nice camping games now that the maps are getting better.
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1107 Posts
September 04 2022 18:23 GMT
#419
these +1 upper bracket rewards would make more sense if it was a bo9
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
September 04 2022 18:23 GMT
#420
Serral's drop defense is just exceptional
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