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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-14 06:41:12
December 12 2021 12:35 GMT
#1
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December 14

NV vs KZG

(T)Maru vs (T)Spirit
(P)Creator vs (T)TIME
(T)Bunny vs (Z)Solar

AF vs PREP

(T)KeeN vs (P)YB
(P)Trap vs (Z)ByuL
(Z)Armani vs (P)Has

December 15

SR vs DPG

(T)ByuN vs (P)Zest
(Z)Scarlett vs (P)herO
(Z)Lambo vs (T)Cure

TL vs iG

(P)Harstem vs (T)Coffee
(T)uThermal vs (T)XY
(T)Clem vs (P)MacSed

December 16

PSI vs GGG

(P)MaxPax vs (Z)Rattata
(T)GuMiho vs (T)Dream
(T)SpeCial vs (P)Nice

AX vs GP

(Z)RagnaroK vs (T)Percival
(P)Zoun vs (T)Ryung
(P)Classic vs (P)Prince
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
December 12 2021 12:36 GMT
#2
Life and death matches for everyone from 4th to 9th!
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
December 12 2021 12:46 GMT
#3
NV > KZG
AF > PREP
SR < DPG
TL > iG
PSI > GGG
AX > GP

As previously this season, I hope GP prove my prediction wrong.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 12 2021 13:26 GMT
#4
Apart from TL vs IG and AF vs PREP every match seems pretty close and is going to be super important for each team
MaxPax
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
December 12 2021 14:03 GMT
#5
Last time IG derailed TL playoff race late in the season, maybe they can pull off another miracle?
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3484 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-14 14:02:45
December 14 2021 14:02 GMT
#6
PREP team is just a mess this season imo, Bly doesnt play much, Byul was so bad in lategame, and now YB foreited his match. Feel terrible for Has, hope he can move to another team next season.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
December 14 2021 14:11 GMT
#7
FUCK! This was today?! T-T

I really need PM reminders… This tournament’s schedule is all over the place… Making liquibets for this tournament is damn exhausting…
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
December 14 2021 14:37 GMT
#8
Tomorrow match may be interesting.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 14 2021 15:32 GMT
#9
On December 14 2021 23:02 tigera6 wrote:
PREP team is just a mess this season imo, Bly doesnt play much, Byul was so bad in lategame, and now YB foreited his match. Feel terrible for Has, hope he can move to another team next season.

In this Tweet Bly implies he s quite strugeling because of a Corona Infektion
https://twitter.com/BlyOnFire/status/1461999159804846083?s=20

So at least that one is out of anyone control
MaxPax
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
December 14 2021 19:45 GMT
#10
That sucks. I wish Bly a full recovery and all the best.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3484 Posts
December 15 2021 12:32 GMT
#11
On December 12 2021 23:03 Nakajin wrote:
Last time IG derailed TL playoff race late in the season, maybe they can pull off another miracle?

2-0 after the first match....history repeating itself?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
December 15 2021 12:46 GMT
#12
On December 15 2021 21:32 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2021 23:03 Nakajin wrote:
Last time IG derailed TL playoff race late in the season, maybe they can pull off another miracle?

2-0 after the first match....history repeating itself?


Yep, disaster strike again
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VladSlymor
Profile Joined November 2020
80 Posts
December 15 2021 13:00 GMT
#13
Down 0-3 now - they may drop even more than 1 point this time.
By the way, is it streamed anywhere?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
December 15 2021 13:04 GMT
#14
Wow, what is happening? Suddenly IG thrashing TL team with 3-0.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3484 Posts
December 15 2021 13:10 GMT
#15
On December 15 2021 22:00 VladSlymor wrote:
Down 0-3 now - they may drop even more than 1 point this time.
By the way, is it streamed anywhere?

SCBoy webpage, linked from Liquidpedia.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3484 Posts
December 15 2021 13:11 GMT
#16
On December 15 2021 22:04 swarminfestor wrote:
Wow, what is happening? Suddenly IG thrashing TL team with 3-0.

Harstem lost his SSJ4 power
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
December 15 2021 13:51 GMT
#17
Why does it have to be iG again?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 15 2021 13:58 GMT
#18
Coffee had 1 or 2 Moments in the ace match as well, nice work by Team IG again
MaxPax
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
December 15 2021 14:03 GMT
#19
On December 15 2021 22:00 VladSlymor wrote:
Down 0-3 now - they may drop even more than 1 point this time.
By the way, is it streamed anywhere?


Wardiii is playing WTL now.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
VladSlymor
Profile Joined November 2020
80 Posts
December 15 2021 14:09 GMT
#20
Valiant effort by Clem - but this year again, that was probably the one point TL could not afford to lose.

Seems they now have to pray for GGG to take some points off Pistorm, at the very least.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
December 15 2021 14:13 GMT
#21
Lol is this for real? TL barely beat iG with Clem hard carrying (as expected) and uThermal tieing against XY / Harstem losing against Coffee?
There have been so many upsets this season, my TL vs iG liquibet seemed like such a no brainer but it could have ended badly :x
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 15 2021 15:03 GMT
#22
On December 15 2021 23:09 VladSlymor wrote:
Valiant effort by Clem - but this year again, that was probably the one point TL could not afford to lose.

Seems they now have to pray for GGG to take some points off Pistorm, at the very least.

Not 100%sure, about it, but I think Psistorm can gurantee their Playoff spot with 3 points tomorrow
MaxPax
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
December 15 2021 15:08 GMT
#23
Roach only army against Immortal Stalker what the heck.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-15 15:13:08
December 15 2021 15:12 GMT
#24
Amazing play from herO in Game 2 vs Scarlett. That final warp-in of sentries really saved his armies.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3484 Posts
December 15 2021 15:28 GMT
#25
The matchup today was completely DPG-favored, would be much different if there was some ZvZ matchup
VladSlymor
Profile Joined November 2020
80 Posts
December 15 2021 15:30 GMT
#26
On December 16 2021 00:03 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2021 23:09 VladSlymor wrote:
Valiant effort by Clem - but this year again, that was probably the one point TL could not afford to lose.

Seems they now have to pray for GGG to take some points off Pistorm, at the very least.

Not 100%sure, about it, but I think Psistorm can gurantee their Playoff spot with 3 points tomorrow


Most likely, but not 100% I think.
3 points for Psistorm tomorrow would guarantee that they end up above TL, for sure, but they could still be eliminated by Afreeca and TGP in a few weird scenarios.
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
601 Posts
December 15 2021 15:37 GMT
#27
Twitch is dead so will try catch up Lambo Cure some other time~
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-15 18:09:24
December 15 2021 17:30 GMT
#28
So basicly TL can get 17 point and a +4 ratio at best.

If they do so, the best GP can do is 17 point and a +2 ratio (tl can drop 1 map to GP and end up in front of them no matter what because of tie braker)

If AF goes to ace vs IG the best they will have is 17 point and a +1 ratio, so TL could pass them, if they win without the ace they go to 18 point.

Psi can go as high as 21 point and as low as 15. If they can get to 17 (2 ace loss or 1 ace win + 1 loss), the best ratio they can have is +2, ergo TL would pass them if they beat GP and lose no more than 1 map since they hold the tie braker.

AX cannot go under 17 point and a -2 ratio. TL can pass them if AX lose their two match and win no more than 4 maps. (3 maps win would tie them at +4 and TL has the tie bracker)

So there's still a few way for TL to squeze through but they made it considerably harder on themselves, psi losing the next two is probably their best path.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33600 Posts
December 15 2021 20:51 GMT
#29
Look, just gimme that TL-GP deathmatch in week eleven, that's all I want
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
December 15 2021 22:12 GMT
#30
iG at last got a point on the standings table this season.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 16 2021 13:34 GMT
#31
GGG vs Psi is going to the ace match
Its going to be rough for Psistorm now
MaxPax
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
December 16 2021 14:01 GMT
#32
Think Psi just lost it, the only way forward for them is to beat TNV without ace.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 16 2021 14:13 GMT
#33
If AX beats GP now without Ace, there is still some hope for Psistorm
MaxPax
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3484 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-16 14:33:50
December 16 2021 14:33 GMT
#34
GGG might just singlehandly eliminate both team GP and PsiStorm from playoff by beating them both in consecutive week.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
December 16 2021 15:28 GMT
#35
Looks like GP, TL and Psi fate will all be decided in the GP-TL match
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33600 Posts
December 16 2021 15:48 GMT
#36
Fuck yeah, got the exciting final week scenario I wanted
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
VladSlymor
Profile Joined November 2020
80 Posts
December 16 2021 16:01 GMT
#37
Exciting!
So, assuming that
- Afreeca does the job against IG
- with equal points and goal average, we favour the winner of the direct match

Then the scenarios are, if I'm correct:
- if Psi wins against NV (clean or ace), they're in
- if Psi fully loses to NV, they're out and the winner of TL/TGP is in
- if Psi takes one point against NV, then:
- they're in if TL/GP split the points
- they're out otherwise
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
December 16 2021 16:42 GMT
#38
On December 17 2021 01:01 VladSlymor wrote:
Exciting!
So, assuming that
- Afreeca does the job against IG
- with equal points and goal average, we favour the winner of the direct match

Then the scenarios are, if I'm correct:
- if Psi wins against NV (clean or ace), they're in
- if Psi fully loses to NV, they're out and the winner of TL/TGP is in
- if Psi takes one point against NV, then:
- they're in if TL/GP split the points
- they're out otherwise


Afreeca just has to beat iG without ace and they are in, they are at 7th place a point above TL and GP, so in case they get 3pts against iG there is no way any of these teams will surpass them
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VladSlymor
Profile Joined November 2020
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-16 21:30:56
December 16 2021 21:29 GMT
#39
On December 17 2021 01:42 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2021 01:01 VladSlymor wrote:
Exciting!
So, assuming that
- Afreeca does the job against IG
- with equal points and goal average, we favour the winner of the direct match

Then the scenarios are, if I'm correct:
- if Psi wins against NV (clean or ace), they're in
- if Psi fully loses to NV, they're out and the winner of TL/TGP is in
- if Psi takes one point against NV, then:
- they're in if TL/GP split the points
- they're out otherwise


Afreeca just has to beat iG without ace and they are in, they are at 7th place a point above TL and GP, so in case they get 3pts against iG there is no way any of these teams will surpass them


Yes, that was my assumption too - my scenarios are discussing which other team qualifies, along with Afreeca.
Sorry if that was unclear.
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