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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-08 13:13:14
December 08 2021 13:11 GMT
#101
Zest seemed like he wanted to extend till late games but apparently do not find sufficient to crush Serral armies. All his high tier armies got crushed in the end.

As expected, foreigner will win this tournament. Lambo can outsmart Serral in the final by winning some maps, but I don't think he can win in total. So, it is tournament for Serral to not lose.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
December 08 2021 13:14 GMT
#102
On December 08 2021 22:06 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2021 21:52 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On December 08 2021 21:47 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 07 2021 22:00 Harris1st wrote:
There is a difference between "this is boring to watch" and "this strat is unstoppable"

Like you mentioned, herO was 2 years away and insta solves the problem. At this point I'm inclined to think Protoss players are just bad right now instead of Zerg OP

Didn't you say the queen walk was solved? Somebody needs to tell Zest.

Also with unwatchable PvZ (which is a big part of the game considering how few Terrans there are) we will lose viewers, with less viewers the incentive to create SC2 events will be lower.


Well, Zest laughably easily defended the queen walk in game 1. He even made a lot of stupid micro mistakes and still it wasnt even remotely close.
The 2nd game was a build order loss, nothing to do with queen walk.


G2 kind of his what I hate most about queen walk. After defending the first adept wave there's lot of option for the zerg to follow up with a lead. You can slap a hydra den and goes for a max out timming or a longer game , goes for a quick ravager-bane bust before the air army is ready, go spire into corruptor with a fourth, ect ... While all of these option may hold some risk it's not like they are bad choice, but queen walk arr so much better than anything else you can do there's pretty much no reason you shouldn't go for it on the counter.


I agree that its annoying and boring to watch but if Serral didnt counter Zests glaives build like he did he could have taken damage and I guarantee you there would be no queen walk, or a desperation queen walk destined to fail.
Also Zest donated like 12 adepts for 2 roaches and was in the middle of his air transition, had 65 probes to 45 drones, no batteries. Serral could have left his Queens at home and still would have won the game.

+ it also goes the other way around, I've seen zergs die to glaive adept build countless times if not scouted or properly countered, and its also quite annoying.

PvZ just sucks as a matchup, everything there is complete bullshit from both players and viewers perspective :/
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
December 08 2021 14:45 GMT
#103
Lambo!

As Serral fanboi as Serral fanboi can ever be, I root for Lambo.

No Serral fanboi can do anything more than that. Loyalty to the loyal secondant.

Awesome!
Part-time Serralogist
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
December 08 2021 15:02 GMT
#104
Meant to say it's as legit ZvZ as they come.

Serral can consume Protosses left and right as he wish, but when it comes to the Dark-beating Padawan of same school of Z, even The Goat need to show his best.

Psychologically, this is one of the hardest grand finals ever. To prepare. No secrets. Only mind game.
Part-time Serralogist
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6924 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-08 16:39:16
December 08 2021 16:34 GMT
#105
On December 08 2021 21:47 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2021 22:00 Harris1st wrote:
There is a difference between "this is boring to watch" and "this strat is unstoppable"

Like you mentioned, herO was 2 years away and insta solves the problem. At this point I'm inclined to think Protoss players are just bad right now instead of Zerg OP

Didn't you say the queen walk was solved? Somebody needs to tell Zest.


That's a shitty comment and you know it
Zest was not up to par today and that is just not enough for the likes of Serral, Dark and Rogue no matter the strategy
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
December 08 2021 16:35 GMT
#106
Holy shit gg lambo !
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
December 08 2021 16:56 GMT
#107
On December 09 2021 01:34 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2021 21:47 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 07 2021 22:00 Harris1st wrote:
There is a difference between "this is boring to watch" and "this strat is unstoppable"

Like you mentioned, herO was 2 years away and insta solves the problem. At this point I'm inclined to think Protoss players are just bad right now instead of Zerg OP

Didn't you say the queen walk was solved? Somebody needs to tell Zest.


That's a shitty comment and you know it
Zest was not up to par today and that is just not enough for the likes of Serral, Dark and Rogue no matter the strategy

Shitty comment was pretending that herO solved the queenwalk as well IMO

Queenwalks are still deadly, it's just that if you don't scout oracles you die to them when you walk in them. And they have the energy.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-08 19:16:32
December 08 2021 19:11 GMT
#108
For me personally, Lambo winning the tournament would be the most exciting SC2 event since Serral winning GSL vs The World 2018.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
December 08 2021 20:28 GMT
#109
Wow Dark really throw the series at 2-1. He was so ahead.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
December 08 2021 20:55 GMT
#110
Very well done by Lambo, it wasn't impossible for him but taking down Dark is still a pretty hard task; seeing him win would be great, honestly.

Well, if Dark threw today it must have been because he realized how much Reynor had thrown against him in the group stages and wanted to repay the dept to another EU Zerg
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-09 06:00:58
December 09 2021 05:57 GMT
#111
Lets go Lambo, just one more match

I remember him saying that it s harder to get a good result in DH EU than in international tournaments. He said he ll never win EU, but still thinks he has a decent shot at 3rd party stuff like this.

And he has his best result in years in a international event, nice
MaxPax
Noradavis
Profile Joined December 2021
United States2 Posts
December 09 2021 09:40 GMT
#112
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6924 Posts
December 09 2021 09:42 GMT
#113
I expect there will be very fast games. If Serral is still even or ahead by the time roach wars end then there is pretty much only one direction this is going
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 09 2021 10:33 GMT
#114
Is the 3rd place match Bo3 or Bo5?
MaxPax
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
December 09 2021 11:14 GMT
#115
Oh dear, ZvZ finals, what a surprise!

Chokers gonna choke, Tossers gonna toss...
gg no re thx
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-09 11:56:19
December 09 2021 11:55 GMT
#116
Other than the dominating win on Clem, who is also faltering in TvZ, Dark has not been been showing much impressive gameplays in this tournament. It seems like he plays too standard and end up getting out-strategy or out-tech by the opponent.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
December 09 2021 12:35 GMT
#117
Lambo should take 1 game imo, not more, either 1 or 0
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 09 2021 13:26 GMT
#118
Insane strat from Lambo, coming in guns blazing
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
December 09 2021 13:26 GMT
#119
On December 09 2021 21:35 M2 wrote:
Lambo should take 1 game imo, not more, either 1 or 0

*cough*
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
December 09 2021 13:26 GMT
#120
This build guys, this build!
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