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Canada8991 Posts
On September 20 2021 05:33 swarminfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2021 05:30 Pandain wrote:On September 20 2021 05:26 Nakajin wrote:
Maru is not on board with all our eu-kr bullshit Would have been maximum comedic value if he said something like "Yeah Koreans only tend to lose Dreamhacks because of cross-server lag along with the late time for Koreans. Also thank you to Charoisaur and others for their friendly words in the TL forums, Serral sucks and I'm glad I destroyed him." I thought Xaion was also on board, but he was not here for long time.
Ah I feel bad for the guy, he had pretty good faith for a long time and was a rather enjoyable poster that got progressively worn out by trying to reason with every anti-Serral poster out there until he became unable to write anything that wouldn't diverge to a Serral-Maru-KR/EU argument.
I hope he come back some day.
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France13018 Posts
On September 20 2021 05:37 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2021 05:36 Poopi wrote:
Thanks for the answers! Make sense, Rogue always use roaches to win versus better terrans, and it works a surprising amount of time. Good thing is French casters will be forced to stop overhype Clem and recognize Maru as the only god of terrans, Clem is a nice Demi god though Clem thought he could beat any type of Zerg army with just Marine-Medivac-Mines. Turn outs you need Tanks vs Roach Ravager. Btw, the KR play-in for DH Winter is coming in 3 days, and its Maru vs Parting.
That’s why people thinking Clem would have beaten Rogue in that GSL finals were assuming a lot of things, especially since offline Rogue is even scarier
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Bah, I had to step out after game one of Maru v Rogue. Grats to Maru! Is it worth going back and watching the finals when VoDs are available?
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On September 20 2021 05:04 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2021 05:02 Swisslink wrote:On September 20 2021 05:01 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I want to still be angry about the lack of Protoss, but this is actually an exciting series. ZvT is still the best matchup, imo. I reluctantly agree. PvP is the best mirror though  .
if we could only clone parting and force him to play pvp against himself, every 5 seconds there would be 2players allining each other.
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On September 20 2021 06:12 Kitai wrote:
Bah, I had to step out after game one of Maru v Rogue. Grats to Maru! Is it worth going back and watching the finals when VoDs are available?
Yes, especially game 4
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On September 20 2021 06:18 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2021 06:12 Kitai wrote:
Bah, I had to step out after game one of Maru v Rogue. Grats to Maru! Is it worth going back and watching the finals when VoDs are available? Yes, especially game 4
Cool, thanks.
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Want to shoutout to Lambo and Wardi for doing a great finals cast. I was going to complain about not getting Rotti and Benji, but they brought the excitement during the series. Great event overall.
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Maru's dry spell ends. Technically not a premier tournament but with the level of competition it might as well be.
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United States33699 Posts
Does the "winner of the most entertaining game loses the series"-curse exist?
Please back me up with anecdotal evidence.
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Northern Ireland27360 Posts
On September 20 2021 07:42 Waxangel wrote:
Does the "winner of the most entertaining game loses the series"-curse exist?
Please back me up with anecdotal evidence.
Basically anyone who takes a set off Rogue in a finals?
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On September 20 2021 07:42 Waxangel wrote:
Does the "winner of the most entertaining game loses the series"-curse exist?
Please back me up with anecdotal evidence.
Stats vs Serral GSL vs the world
ByuN vs Dark Blizzcon
TY vs Zest first LotV GSL
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Northern Ireland27360 Posts
On September 20 2021 07:42 Waxangel wrote:
Does the "winner of the most entertaining game loses the series"-curse exist?
Please back me up with anecdotal evidence.
Mvp vs Squirtle Archon toilet game?
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On September 20 2021 05:33 swarminfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2021 05:30 Pandain wrote:On September 20 2021 05:26 Nakajin wrote:
Maru is not on board with all our eu-kr bullshit Would have been maximum comedic value if he said something like "Yeah Koreans only tend to lose Dreamhacks because of cross-server lag along with the late time for Koreans. Also thank you to Charoisaur and others for their friendly words in the TL forums, Serral sucks and I'm glad I destroyed him." I thought Xaion was also on board, but he was not here for long time.
Have you summoned me? My last message was just two months ago.
If you happened to check Liquibet it would have been evident to you I had not left, after all.
On September 20 2021 05:44 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2021 05:33 swarminfestor wrote:On September 20 2021 05:30 Pandain wrote:On September 20 2021 05:26 Nakajin wrote:
Maru is not on board with all our eu-kr bullshit Would have been maximum comedic value if he said something like "Yeah Koreans only tend to lose Dreamhacks because of cross-server lag along with the late time for Koreans. Also thank you to Charoisaur and others for their friendly words in the TL forums, Serral sucks and I'm glad I destroyed him." I thought Xaion was also on board, but he was not here for long time. Ah I feel bad for the guy, he had pretty good faith for a long time and was a rather enjoyable poster that got progressively worn out by trying to reason with every anti-Serral poster out there until he became unable to write anything that wouldn't diverge to a Serral-Maru-KR/EU argument. I hope he come back some day.
I was honoured that you remembered me this way, I had to reply 
To say the truth, things went differently. In these last two months I have been busier so that I usually did not have the time to watch Sc2(even if I kept following) and Trap losing another Code S final temporarily killed my will of writing on this forum.
Also, if anything my first posts were mostly about defending Serral and discussing with this haters and this became such a cliché that I could not avoid getting drawn in KR-EU/Serral-Maru arguments even when I had no intention to.
The active posters on this forum tend to get on well under their mainly pro-korean orientation and, in addition to the reasons I listed above, it seemed to me that a divergent voice was not needed in recent time as I perceived them as less offensive and disrespectful toward the europeans, more accepting of the reality of contemporary Sc2 in which korean and non korean top players roughly alternate winning tournaments.
However, Rogue owning Clem and Maru rolling over Serral on their way on this final evidently pulled out the worst out of our lovely pro korean/anti foreigner friends.
Maru was the best today, simply put; it's nice that he drove Terran to a win in a cross region event after long months and I guess it's fine if he beats Serral once every three years and half.
Also, Maru is most likely the GOAT of Sc2 if we look at his accomplishments as of September 2021 but he definitely was not back in 2018. Not to mention that no amount of consecutive Code S could be valued over the unprecedent domination Serral displayed over Sc2 that year.
Speaking of Serral, he has recently shapen up a little after the absymal results of the last season but he has evidently never recovered the level he had before Katowice 2020; Sc2 is probably more interesting this way 
Reynor's form was not great, he openly stated it and losing to Heromarine is a clear indication of that; he has never been the most consistent of players, after all.
Clem seems to suffer NA server more than most do(or maybe he has kind of a mental block against top koreans but I doubt that's the case), he played subpar while Rogue was precise and decisive.
Clem still has to win a non EU Premier event(he indeed won OSC but that's just a Major), I personally think we'll see him win one after the international events can safely commit to LAN again but I might be wrong about it.
His level of play has reached the upper echelons but his collection of trophies is nowhere near, time will tell.
Rogue is a top3 all time Zerg, the clutchest player ever and one of the strongest around at the moment but he's not a GOAT candidate to me. Too much nothing between his big titles(which are also too few imho even if they are the heaviest on average); I also personally don't like the fact that Rogue won at least a couple of tournaments whose final shouldn't have reached but then was too smart and too stonecold and murdered his opponent.
In any of case, I would judge another player having the same achievements precisely the same way.
The ridicolous claims about some top players being inherently better than some others because of the way a single series goes are so pointless that they shouldn't be given credit; even worse, calling some of the best players in Sc2 history "bad" or "inferior" because they lose said series is utterly pathetic.
Ah, someone mentioned ZvP as being Zerg favored in 2018; it wasn't, it was mostly Serral was stopping them every time(similar to Maru beating them in Code S).
As for the state of the game, I am disappointed by seeing Protoss flood GM while their top players are still basically unable to defeat Zerg in relevant finals...
I am not going anywhere, don't worry(or be annoyed, for those who don't like me).
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On September 20 2021 08:54 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2021 05:33 swarminfestor wrote:On September 20 2021 05:30 Pandain wrote:On September 20 2021 05:26 Nakajin wrote:
Maru is not on board with all our eu-kr bullshit Would have been maximum comedic value if he said something like "Yeah Koreans only tend to lose Dreamhacks because of cross-server lag along with the late time for Koreans. Also thank you to Charoisaur and others for their friendly words in the TL forums, Serral sucks and I'm glad I destroyed him." I thought Xaion was also on board, but he was not here for long time. Have you summoned me? My last message was just two months ago. If you happened to check Liquibet it would have been evident to you I had not left, after all. Show nested quote +On September 20 2021 05:44 Nakajin wrote:On September 20 2021 05:33 swarminfestor wrote:On September 20 2021 05:30 Pandain wrote:On September 20 2021 05:26 Nakajin wrote:
Maru is not on board with all our eu-kr bullshit Would have been maximum comedic value if he said something like "Yeah Koreans only tend to lose Dreamhacks because of cross-server lag along with the late time for Koreans. Also thank you to Charoisaur and others for their friendly words in the TL forums, Serral sucks and I'm glad I destroyed him." I thought Xaion was also on board, but he was not here for long time. Ah I feel bad for the guy, he had pretty good faith for a long time and was a rather enjoyable poster that got progressively worn out by trying to reason with every anti-Serral poster out there until he became unable to write anything that wouldn't diverge to a Serral-Maru-KR/EU argument. I hope he come back some day. I was honoured that you remembered me this way, I had to reply To say the truth, things went differently. In these last two months I have been busier so that I usually did not have the time to watch Sc2(even if I kept following) and Trap losing another Code S final temporarily killed my will of writing on this forum. Also, if anything my first posts were mostly about defending Serral and discussing with this haters and this became such a cliché that I could not avoid getting drawn in KR-EU/Serral-Maru arguments even when I had no intention to. The active posters on this forum tend to get on well under their mainly pro-korean orientation and, in addition to the reasons I listed above, it seemed to me that a divergent voice was not needed in recent time as I perceived them as less offensive and disrespectful toward the europeans, more accepting of the reality of contemporary Sc2 in which korean and non korean top players roughly alternate winning tournaments. However, Rogue owning Clem and Maru rolling over Serral on their way on this final evidently pulled out the worst out of our lovely pro korean/anti foreigner friends. Maru was the best today, simply put; it's nice that he drove Terran to a win in a cross region event after long months and I guess it's fine if he beats Serral once every three years and half. Also, Maru is most likely the GOAT of Sc2 if we look at his accomplishments as of September 2021 but he definitely was not back in 2018. Not to mention that no amount of consecutive Code S could be valued over the unprecedent domination Serral displayed over Sc2 that year. Speaking of Serral, he has recently shapen up a little after the absymal results of the last season but he has evidently never recovered the level he had before Katowice 2020; Sc2 is probably more interesting this way Reynor's form was not great, he openly stated it and losing to Heromarine is a clear indication of that; he has never been the most consistent of players, after all. Clem seems to suffer NA server more than most do(or maybe he has kind of a mental block against top koreans but I doubt that's the case), he played subpar while Rogue was precise and decisive. Clem still has to win a non EU Premier event(he indeed won OSC but that's just a Major), I personally think we'll see him win one after the international events can safely commit to LAN again but I might be wrong about it. His level of play has reached the upper echelons but his collection of trophies is nowhere near, time will tell. Rogue is a top3 all time Zerg, the clutchest player ever and one of the strongest around at the moment but he's not a GOAT candidate to me. Too much nothing between his big titles(which are also too few imho even if they are the heaviest on average); I also personally don't like the fact that Rogue won at least a couple of tournaments whose final shouldn't have reached but then was too smart and too stonecold and murdered his opponent. In any of case, I would judge another player having the same achievements precisely the same way. The ridicolous claims about some top players being inherently better than some others because of the way a single series goes are so pointless that they shouldn't be given credit; even worse, calling some of the best players in Sc2 history "bad" or "inferior" because they lose said series is utterly pathetic. Ah, someone mentioned ZvP as being Zerg favored in 2018; it wasn't, it was mostly Serral was stopping them every time(similar to Maru beating them in Code S). As for the state of the game, I am disappointed by seeing Protoss flood GM while their top players are still basically unable to defeat Zerg in relevant finals... I am not going anywhere, don't worry(or be annoyed, for those who don't like me).
the only non koreans who win tournaments are reynor/serral. Korean still overall are dominant. And I guess its possible, but you lie about now watching sc2 lately, I randomly see you commenting during twitch streams of tournaments recently.
Also you said Rogue is top 3 etc etc but not a GOAT candidate? He won how many tournaments and GSLS? If Rogue wasn't a korean you'd be all over him saying he's the GOAT. But yet you would say Serral is the GOAT i bet but he hasn't competed in or won a GSL.
please man you are biased.
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On September 20 2021 10:28 allmotor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2021 08:54 Xain0n wrote:On September 20 2021 05:33 swarminfestor wrote:On September 20 2021 05:30 Pandain wrote:On September 20 2021 05:26 Nakajin wrote:
Maru is not on board with all our eu-kr bullshit Would have been maximum comedic value if he said something like "Yeah Koreans only tend to lose Dreamhacks because of cross-server lag along with the late time for Koreans. Also thank you to Charoisaur and others for their friendly words in the TL forums, Serral sucks and I'm glad I destroyed him." I thought Xaion was also on board, but he was not here for long time. Have you summoned me? My last message was just two months ago. If you happened to check Liquibet it would have been evident to you I had not left, after all. On September 20 2021 05:44 Nakajin wrote:On September 20 2021 05:33 swarminfestor wrote:On September 20 2021 05:30 Pandain wrote:On September 20 2021 05:26 Nakajin wrote:
Maru is not on board with all our eu-kr bullshit Would have been maximum comedic value if he said something like "Yeah Koreans only tend to lose Dreamhacks because of cross-server lag along with the late time for Koreans. Also thank you to Charoisaur and others for their friendly words in the TL forums, Serral sucks and I'm glad I destroyed him." I thought Xaion was also on board, but he was not here for long time. Ah I feel bad for the guy, he had pretty good faith for a long time and was a rather enjoyable poster that got progressively worn out by trying to reason with every anti-Serral poster out there until he became unable to write anything that wouldn't diverge to a Serral-Maru-KR/EU argument. I hope he come back some day. I was honoured that you remembered me this way, I had to reply To say the truth, things went differently. In these last two months I have been busier so that I usually did not have the time to watch Sc2(even if I kept following) and Trap losing another Code S final temporarily killed my will of writing on this forum. Also, if anything my first posts were mostly about defending Serral and discussing with this haters and this became such a cliché that I could not avoid getting drawn in KR-EU/Serral-Maru arguments even when I had no intention to. The active posters on this forum tend to get on well under their mainly pro-korean orientation and, in addition to the reasons I listed above, it seemed to me that a divergent voice was not needed in recent time as I perceived them as less offensive and disrespectful toward the europeans, more accepting of the reality of contemporary Sc2 in which korean and non korean top players roughly alternate winning tournaments. However, Rogue owning Clem and Maru rolling over Serral on their way on this final evidently pulled out the worst out of our lovely pro korean/anti foreigner friends. Maru was the best today, simply put; it's nice that he drove Terran to a win in a cross region event after long months and I guess it's fine if he beats Serral once every three years and half. Also, Maru is most likely the GOAT of Sc2 if we look at his accomplishments as of September 2021 but he definitely was not back in 2018. Not to mention that no amount of consecutive Code S could be valued over the unprecedent domination Serral displayed over Sc2 that year. Speaking of Serral, he has recently shapen up a little after the absymal results of the last season but he has evidently never recovered the level he had before Katowice 2020; Sc2 is probably more interesting this way Reynor's form was not great, he openly stated it and losing to Heromarine is a clear indication of that; he has never been the most consistent of players, after all. Clem seems to suffer NA server more than most do(or maybe he has kind of a mental block against top koreans but I doubt that's the case), he played subpar while Rogue was precise and decisive. Clem still has to win a non EU Premier event(he indeed won OSC but that's just a Major), I personally think we'll see him win one after the international events can safely commit to LAN again but I might be wrong about it. His level of play has reached the upper echelons but his collection of trophies is nowhere near, time will tell. Rogue is a top3 all time Zerg, the clutchest player ever and one of the strongest around at the moment but he's not a GOAT candidate to me. Too much nothing between his big titles(which are also too few imho even if they are the heaviest on average); I also personally don't like the fact that Rogue won at least a couple of tournaments whose final shouldn't have reached but then was too smart and too stonecold and murdered his opponent. In any of case, I would judge another player having the same achievements precisely the same way. The ridicolous claims about some top players being inherently better than some others because of the way a single series goes are so pointless that they shouldn't be given credit; even worse, calling some of the best players in Sc2 history "bad" or "inferior" because they lose said series is utterly pathetic. Ah, someone mentioned ZvP as being Zerg favored in 2018; it wasn't, it was mostly Serral was stopping them every time(similar to Maru beating them in Code S). As for the state of the game, I am disappointed by seeing Protoss flood GM while their top players are still basically unable to defeat Zerg in relevant finals... I am not going anywhere, don't worry(or be annoyed, for those who don't like me). the only non koreans who win tournaments are reynor/serral. Korean still overall are dominant. And I guess its possible, but you lie about now watching sc2 lately, I randomly see you commenting during twitch streams of tournaments recently. Also you said Rogue is top 3 etc etc but not a GOAT candidate? He won how many tournaments and GSLS? If Rogue wasn't a korean you'd be all over him saying he's the GOAT. But yet you would say Serral is the GOAT i bet but he hasn't competed in or won a GSL. please man you are biased.
Read more carefully, read with less prejudice or avoid reading at all, devil's in the details; at least try to make counterarguments to something I have effectively said.
Looks like I can't escape the ficticious "Serral the GOAT" discussion, it's hilarious.
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On September 20 2021 10:55 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2021 10:28 allmotor1 wrote:On September 20 2021 08:54 Xain0n wrote:On September 20 2021 05:33 swarminfestor wrote:On September 20 2021 05:30 Pandain wrote:On September 20 2021 05:26 Nakajin wrote:
Maru is not on board with all our eu-kr bullshit Would have been maximum comedic value if he said something like "Yeah Koreans only tend to lose Dreamhacks because of cross-server lag along with the late time for Koreans. Also thank you to Charoisaur and others for their friendly words in the TL forums, Serral sucks and I'm glad I destroyed him." I thought Xaion was also on board, but he was not here for long time. Have you summoned me? My last message was just two months ago. If you happened to check Liquibet it would have been evident to you I had not left, after all. On September 20 2021 05:44 Nakajin wrote:On September 20 2021 05:33 swarminfestor wrote:On September 20 2021 05:30 Pandain wrote:On September 20 2021 05:26 Nakajin wrote:
Maru is not on board with all our eu-kr bullshit Would have been maximum comedic value if he said something like "Yeah Koreans only tend to lose Dreamhacks because of cross-server lag along with the late time for Koreans. Also thank you to Charoisaur and others for their friendly words in the TL forums, Serral sucks and I'm glad I destroyed him." I thought Xaion was also on board, but he was not here for long time. Ah I feel bad for the guy, he had pretty good faith for a long time and was a rather enjoyable poster that got progressively worn out by trying to reason with every anti-Serral poster out there until he became unable to write anything that wouldn't diverge to a Serral-Maru-KR/EU argument. I hope he come back some day. I was honoured that you remembered me this way, I had to reply To say the truth, things went differently. In these last two months I have been busier so that I usually did not have the time to watch Sc2(even if I kept following) and Trap losing another Code S final temporarily killed my will of writing on this forum. Also, if anything my first posts were mostly about defending Serral and discussing with this haters and this became such a cliché that I could not avoid getting drawn in KR-EU/Serral-Maru arguments even when I had no intention to. The active posters on this forum tend to get on well under their mainly pro-korean orientation and, in addition to the reasons I listed above, it seemed to me that a divergent voice was not needed in recent time as I perceived them as less offensive and disrespectful toward the europeans, more accepting of the reality of contemporary Sc2 in which korean and non korean top players roughly alternate winning tournaments. However, Rogue owning Clem and Maru rolling over Serral on their way on this final evidently pulled out the worst out of our lovely pro korean/anti foreigner friends. Maru was the best today, simply put; it's nice that he drove Terran to a win in a cross region event after long months and I guess it's fine if he beats Serral once every three years and half. Also, Maru is most likely the GOAT of Sc2 if we look at his accomplishments as of September 2021 but he definitely was not back in 2018. Not to mention that no amount of consecutive Code S could be valued over the unprecedent domination Serral displayed over Sc2 that year. Speaking of Serral, he has recently shapen up a little after the absymal results of the last season but he has evidently never recovered the level he had before Katowice 2020; Sc2 is probably more interesting this way Reynor's form was not great, he openly stated it and losing to Heromarine is a clear indication of that; he has never been the most consistent of players, after all. Clem seems to suffer NA server more than most do(or maybe he has kind of a mental block against top koreans but I doubt that's the case), he played subpar while Rogue was precise and decisive. Clem still has to win a non EU Premier event(he indeed won OSC but that's just a Major), I personally think we'll see him win one after the international events can safely commit to LAN again but I might be wrong about it. His level of play has reached the upper echelons but his collection of trophies is nowhere near, time will tell. Rogue is a top3 all time Zerg, the clutchest player ever and one of the strongest around at the moment but he's not a GOAT candidate to me. Too much nothing between his big titles(which are also too few imho even if they are the heaviest on average); I also personally don't like the fact that Rogue won at least a couple of tournaments whose final shouldn't have reached but then was too smart and too stonecold and murdered his opponent. In any of case, I would judge another player having the same achievements precisely the same way. The ridicolous claims about some top players being inherently better than some others because of the way a single series goes are so pointless that they shouldn't be given credit; even worse, calling some of the best players in Sc2 history "bad" or "inferior" because they lose said series is utterly pathetic. Ah, someone mentioned ZvP as being Zerg favored in 2018; it wasn't, it was mostly Serral was stopping them every time(similar to Maru beating them in Code S). As for the state of the game, I am disappointed by seeing Protoss flood GM while their top players are still basically unable to defeat Zerg in relevant finals... I am not going anywhere, don't worry(or be annoyed, for those who don't like me). the only non koreans who win tournaments are reynor/serral. Korean still overall are dominant. And I guess its possible, but you lie about now watching sc2 lately, I randomly see you commenting during twitch streams of tournaments recently. Also you said Rogue is top 3 etc etc but not a GOAT candidate? He won how many tournaments and GSLS? If Rogue wasn't a korean you'd be all over him saying he's the GOAT. But yet you would say Serral is the GOAT i bet but he hasn't competed in or won a GSL. please man you are biased. Read more carefully, read with less prejudice or avoid reading at all, devil's in the details; at least try to make counterarguments to something I have effectively said. Looks like I can't escape the ficticious "Serral the GOAT" discussion, it's hilarious.
I did read carefully, you are an expert at "complimenting" korean players yet undermining them at the same time. And you telling someone to have less prejudice is hilarious. You literally said any amount of consecutive GSL wins wouldn't match serral's run in 2018. That is hilarious.
well judging from your religious undermining of Koreans and constant propping of Serral, it's not hard to believe you probably would consider Serral the goat.
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Hmm, so according to Xain0n, Rogue is not a GOAT contender, Maru isn't either. Then who that would be? The player whose name begins with S?
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On September 20 2021 12:23 parksonsc wrote:
Hmm, so according to Xain0n, Rogue is not a GOAT contender, Maru isn't either. Then who that would be? The player whose name begins with S?
He literally said in his post that Maru was probably the SC2 GOAT at this point. Like, it's right there.
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Xainon just as delusional as ever. Maru was no where near GOAT after his 4 GSL streak but apparently is now? Why because he won a few online weekenders with small prizes? I guess that's at least consistent with you valuing Serral's HSCs so much. Maru was the GOAT clear then and Rogue is starting to threaten that title.
Zerg was fine and it was just Serral in 2018? Yet Zerg won the most money that year even if you subtract Serral's earnings.
Rogue isn't a goat candidate because he's not consistent? But apparently Maru's countless last Terran standing performances count for nothing.
Serral's never reached his 2018 level? Or maybe he just got good matchups for the grand total of 8 series he won to get his important trophies that year and this is the level he's always been. Seems far more likely to me. Serral was never unbeatable.
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Another thing that would work for Maru advantage in the GOAT dicussion at the end of the day is his relative young age. Rogue, Trap and Parting are going for military next year. So unless Classic and Hero can get back to their tip top form or Dark dominate again, Maru would run the GSL for the next year and the year after that, if Blizzard still care enough about the esport and give proper funding for tournament. Meanwhile, things are not getting easier for Serral in the EU side with Clem and Reynor keep on catching up on title.
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