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On February 27 2021 23:55 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2021 23:53 Luolis wrote:On February 27 2021 23:51 Charoisaur wrote:On February 27 2021 23:48 Luolis wrote:On February 27 2021 23:39 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 27 2021 23:38 WombaT wrote:On February 27 2021 23:14 Waxangel wrote: Who wants to take the hipster position that ZvZ is ACTUALLY the best match-up in SC2? You misspelt PvP man, truly the hipster's matchup of choice Disruptor vs. Disruptor is the best thing that ever happened to PvP. Incredibly exciting. Disruptors are the worst unit ever added to sc2. You will not be able to change my mind. Swarmhosts? Swarm hosts aren't even close to disruptors. They were a horrible addition, but not the same kind of intensely aggravating as the disco ball. Disco balls are amazing. I'm unsure why the devs never gave them a /dance animation where they light up like a disco ball so you can have a wee Protoss disco. Alas we are unlikely to ever see that brought into the game. I think disruptors absolutely have aggravating elements to them but compared to WoL era infestors or swarmhosts they're incredible units Man, disruptors are such a bad unit that comparing wol infestors to them is like comparing Mozart to Rebecca Black. Even swarm hosts have the redeeming quality of not being capable of ending a game in literally 1 second. Disruptors make your margin of error an absolute zero, which is something that no other unit has.
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On February 27 2021 23:58 Fango wrote: I'm sorry but how are these casters saying "We say Serral is the greatest of all time, but there is always the asterisk of Dark" as if Serral somehow has an obvious better career record than Dark.
Koreans literally have to do twice as much as foreigners to get the same credit.
They view WCS and homestory cup wins as valuable as GSLs. It's absurd.
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On February 27 2021 23:55 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2021 23:53 Luolis wrote:On February 27 2021 23:51 Charoisaur wrote:On February 27 2021 23:48 Luolis wrote:On February 27 2021 23:39 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 27 2021 23:38 WombaT wrote:On February 27 2021 23:14 Waxangel wrote: Who wants to take the hipster position that ZvZ is ACTUALLY the best match-up in SC2? You misspelt PvP man, truly the hipster's matchup of choice Disruptor vs. Disruptor is the best thing that ever happened to PvP. Incredibly exciting. Disruptors are the worst unit ever added to sc2. You will not be able to change my mind. Swarmhosts? Swarm hosts aren't even close to disruptors. They were a horrible addition, but not the same kind of intensely aggravating as the disco ball. Disco balls are amazing. I'm unsure why the devs never gave them a /dance animation where they light up like a disco ball so you can have a wee Protoss disco. Alas we are unlikely to ever see that brought into the game.
Oracle already has that.
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Northern Ireland26267 Posts
On February 27 2021 23:58 Fango wrote: I'm sorry but how are these casters saying "We say Serral is the greatest of all time, but there is always the asterisk of Dark" as if Serral somehow has an obvious better career record than Dark.
Koreans literally have to do twice as much as foreigners to get the same credit. Why do casters even do this? Is there a portion of the audience that absolutely loves this kind of framing?
Judging from TL LR threads it seems people almost universally hate this, even players who are rooting for the foreign players.
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Looks like Reynor is gonna break Dark here.
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United States33559 Posts
On February 27 2021 23:58 Fango wrote: I'm sorry but how are these casters saying "We say Serral is the greatest of all time, but there is always the asterisk of Dark" as if Serral somehow has an obvious better career record than Dark.
Koreans literally have to do twice as much as foreigners to get the same credit.
I'm more puzzled at how you interject with a random "Serral is the GOAT btw" when he's not in the match and out of the tournament
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Wow, really looked like Dark was going to hold there for a moment.
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United States23455 Posts
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damn that was so close to a good hold from Dark 2-2, this is a great series, I predicted Dark to win it, will be glad to be proven wrong
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You love to see it! This playlist needs to be released.
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This is shaping up to be a very sad result
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On February 28 2021 00:00 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2021 23:58 Fango wrote: I'm sorry but how are these casters saying "We say Serral is the greatest of all time, but there is always the asterisk of Dark" as if Serral somehow has an obvious better career record than Dark.
Koreans literally have to do twice as much as foreigners to get the same credit. Why do casters even do this? Is there a portion of the audience that absolutely loves this kind of framing? Judging from TL LR threads it seems people almost universally hate this, even players who are rooting for the foreign players.
Yeah I think Serral is the GOAT but I think its extremely close, entirely debatable and not needed in the cast. Oh well
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On February 28 2021 00:01 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2021 23:58 Fango wrote: I'm sorry but how are these casters saying "We say Serral is the greatest of all time, but there is always the asterisk of Dark" as if Serral somehow has an obvious better career record than Dark.
Koreans literally have to do twice as much as foreigners to get the same credit. I'm more puzzled at how you interject with a random "Serral is the GOAT btw" when he's not in the match and out of the tournament 
It's because the foreigner GOAT got knocked out by the other foreigner GOAT, but now we're watching a ZvZ that includes the actual foreigner GOAT. It can be a little confusing, which is why I just defer to whoever the commentator is hyping.
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The asterisk: *these other guys are better but they're not white
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On February 28 2021 00:00 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2021 23:58 Fango wrote: I'm sorry but how are these casters saying "We say Serral is the greatest of all time, but there is always the asterisk of Dark" as if Serral somehow has an obvious better career record than Dark.
Koreans literally have to do twice as much as foreigners to get the same credit. Why do casters even do this? Is there a portion of the audience that absolutely loves this kind of framing? Judging from TL LR threads it seems people almost universally hate this, even players who are rooting for the foreign players. maybe it hypes people up who don't follow the game as much and believe that the fan favourite Serral is the GOAT?
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United States33559 Posts
Neither player asking for a mid-series break in a 5 game series
Taking breaks to recover mental is for lesser player who don't have ridiculous self confidence
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I am surprised every time by how much you guys belittle Serral's achievements. Also, in a Reynor vs Dark series...
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How are the casters being overly foreigner biased in this match? They have been talking about Dark's legacy and his strengths far more than Reynor here.
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On February 27 2021 23:59 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2021 23:58 Fango wrote: I'm sorry but how are these casters saying "We say Serral is the greatest of all time, but there is always the asterisk of Dark" as if Serral somehow has an obvious better career record than Dark.
Koreans literally have to do twice as much as foreigners to get the same credit. They view WCS and homestory cup wins as valuable as GSLs. It's absurd. If you only compare their single best years, Serral's 2018 and Dark's 2019, they're somewhat close. Even though Dark's year had better results in korea.
Every other year in the history of sc2 has Dark light years ahead of Serral but I guess results before 2018 don't matter anymore.
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